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post #1 of 4 Old May 2nd, 2008, 12:55 am Thread Starter
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Ammunition bill in CA Assembly

Those of you in California that own firearms, need to start calling or writing your representatives and voice your opposition.

Read and weep. It's not going to stop unless we defeat this and them during the next election. I've had it with the stupid stupid stupid laws that get passed. Bolded sections are mine for emphasis.

Bill Analysis:

The bill would establish a database maintained by the department to
serve as a registry of handgun ammunition vendors. The bill would also

establish a database of handgun ammunition permittees.

This bill would require that commencing July 1, 2009, unless

specifically excluded, no person shall sell or transfer more than 50

rounds of handgun ammunition in any month unless they are registered

as a handgun ammunition vendor, as defined. The bill would also require

these vendors to obtain a background clearance for those employees

who would handle ammunition in the course and scope of their

employment. The bill would require the Department of Justice to

maintain a registry of registered handgun ammunition vendors, as

specified. Violation of these provisions, as specified, would be subject

to civil fines, as specified a misdemeanor.
By creating a new crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated

local program.
The bill would also provide that no retail seller of ammunition shall

sell, offer for sale, or display for sale, any handgun ammunition in a

manner that allows that ammunition to be accessible to a purchaser

without the assistance of the retailer or employee thereof. Violation of

these provisions would be subject to civil fines, as specified.

The bill would further provide that handgun ammunition may only

be purchased in a face-to-face transaction and only if certain conditions

exist.

Existing law generally regulates what information is required to be

obtained in connection with the transfer of ammunition.

This bill would, subject to exceptions, commencing July 1, 2009,

require certain ammunition vendors to obtain a thumbprint and other

information from ammunition purchasers, and would require submission

of that information to the Department of Justice, as specified. A violation

of these provisions would be subject to civil fines, as specified a

misdemeanor
.
This bill would provide that a person enjoined from engaging in

activity associated with a criminal street gang, as specified, would be

prohibited from having under his or her possession custody or control,

any ammunition. Violation of these provisions would be a misdemeanor.

The bill would prohibit supplying or delivering, as specified, handgun

ammunition to prohibited persons, as described, by persons or others

who know or have cause to believe the recipient is a persons prohibited

from possessing ammunition. Violation of these provisions is a

misdemeanor with specified penalties.
By creating new crimes, this bill would impose a state-mandated local

program.

The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local

agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the state.

Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that

reimbursement.

This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this act

for a specified reason.

The bill number is AB2062 and the full text is at http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset2text.htm type 2062 and then click on HTM or PDF.



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Re: Ammunition bill in CA Assembly

Clearly the desire is an all-out ban, so you can simply arrest anyone with a gun. That makes enforcement easy. Since it's difficult to get all the sheep to go along (and constitutionally illegal, but that's not an issue today), you try and get there incrementally, but anything in between an all-out ban and complete gun freedom cannot work since criminals can always use the black market.

The 2nd amendment says the right to bear arms cannot be infringed, but says nothing about ammunition. Let's define arms as the gun only. Brilliant!

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Re: Ammunition bill in CA Assembly

Our lawmakers, whom we support dearly for out of own pockets, just don't get it and never will.

When will they stop making laws punishing law abiding citizens instead of addressing the scum bag criminals who just don't think they need to live by the law like the rest of us.

It is so ridiculous, it is starting to become comical.

I would write my lawmaker if I thought it made any difference - I am that frustrated!!!

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Re: Ammunition bill in CA Assembly

[QUOTE=Lopaca]Our lawmakers, whom we support dearly for out of own pockets, just don't get it and never will.

When will they stop making laws punishing law abiding citizens instead of addressing the scum bag criminals who just don't think they need to live by the law like the rest of us.

It is so ridiculous, it is starting to become comical.

I would write my lawmaker if I thought it made any difference - I am that frustrated!!!





NO !!! do not give up write a letter- not a form letter or an Email!- A letter.

Elected politicians use a formula that ( close but may be out dated ) for every Hand written letter they get 1000 people feel the same way.

Elected Politicians depend on their Income they want to be re elected and will / can be influenced by what the electorate feels.

DO NOT! fall prey to that "I'm only one person" mind set.

Demand an interview with YOUR represinitive. Voice Your opinion face to face . Even though you will not get the chance they will know how determined you are.

Trust in this they do not want to make waves they want an easy life and sitting on their collective butts voting an occasional Yea or Nay is as hard as they want to work.

I Know from personal experience that ONE! person can wreck havoc with their plans I know this because my Business Partner caused the closing of a Gov. DEPT. and put 79 CA State people out of work.

ONE person!

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