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My lovely wife are going to do 1 &101 north of Caspar August 13th and 14th, then pick up a Rick Mayer seat on our way to San Diego to see our grandson graduate from Marine Boot on the 17th.

My question is, we are leaving Prescott, Az on the 11th and we are thinking about going to Barstow pick up 385 north to 89 to 20 then west to 1. Any thoughts. Would there be a better way? Etc? I am not familiar with that part of the world so I am open to any suggestion. By the way we will be pulling the Unigo and camping some?

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Assuming you mean 395 instead of 385, that should be fine. There's a nice place to camp up near Bridgeport out at Twin Lakes (you'll see signs for it).

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I'm not familiar with 385. If you meant 395, watch your speed. Nevada HP arre active on that corridor.

89 to 20 is awesome. You will go by Emerald Bay and that alone is worth it plus you will do a bit of riding along the lake too. Hwy 20 is also good and takes you around Clear Lake with some wide sweepers east of the lake.



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Well since you asked for opinions, hereís mind. Probably worth what you paid for them.

SR 20 is okay. Raffy is correct about is being nice towards the coastal ranges. But the middle section through the central valley (Yuba City/Marysville) is boring, and more congested than you might think.


From Prescott, SR 89 north to Ash Fork. Take old route 66 to Kingman, gets you off the interstate. From there:


Idea 1) Go north on US 93 over the Hoover/Bolder dam. (Depends on if youíre a Republican or a Democrat). Through Vegas and pick-up US 95 north. Take Nevada SR 266 west to California SR 168. Follow that to US 395 north. I like that ride.

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Idea 2) Continue through Barstow on SR 58 all the way to the coast. You could consider the SR 223 by-pass to skip Bakersfield. The best thing that can be said about Bakersfield is that it is not Barstow. Anyway 58 west of Bakersfield is a nice ride. Fill up first and bring water. There are no services until you reach 101. (Thatís good advice for Nevada too.) Then you could ride SR 1 north, and enjoy the Pacific coast. Good points: Hearst castle, Monterey, San Francisco, GG Bridge. The bad points, the SF bay area means increased traffic. You can lane split, but itís not for the faint of heart on an LT pulling a trailer.

Anyway you go, be safe and have fun!

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Given the time constraints of being north of Caspar by the 13th I would agree with Tom's idea #1 and then cut over to Hwy 20. This may be the best compromise of making time off the main freeways. Some places along this route are routinely filled with heavy vacation and weekender traffic during the summer. You'll find plenty of traffic around Lake Tahoe on Hwy 89 and you'll have to run I80 for 30 miles west from Truckee to pick up Hwy 20 near Emigrant Gap. Hwy 20 is a nice piece of road until you lose the elevation coming into Marysville. You'll get a fair piece of traffic in Marysville/Yuba City and then hot agriculture flatlands until about ten miles west of I5 followed by 86 miles of hot twisties until you get to Hwy 101. It's the harvest so expect a lot of vegetable trucks in the central valley and watch for produce on the road. Sunday we came up on about 40 ears of corn all over I5! There isn't a lot of camping once you hit Marysville either. You will encounter heavy traffic as you enter Willits on 101 sometimes backing up a mile out of town. Heads up for the Hwy 20 cutoff in the middle of town. It's not well marked. An hour later you'll be on the coast. You may well encounter fog or cloudy conditions as you get close to the coast but it will cool off considerably.

One more thing while in California is our ridiculous trailer law. Vehicles pulling trailers or vehicles pulling vehicles are restricted to a legal limit of 55 mph.(just so you know)

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Given the time constraints of being north of Caspar by the 13th I would agree with Tom's idea #1 and then cut over to Hwy 20. This may be the best compromise of making time off the main freeways. Some places along this route are routinely filled with heavy vacation and weekender traffic during the summer. You'll find plenty of traffic around Lake Tahoe on Hwy 89 and you'll have to run I80 for 30 miles west from Truckee to pick up Hwy 20 near Emigrant Gap. Hwy 20 is a nice piece of road until you lose the elevation coming into Marysville. You'll get a fair piece of traffic in Marysville/Yuba City and then hot agriculture flatlands until about ten miles west of I5 followed by 86 miles of hot twisties until you get to Hwy 101. It's the harvest so expect a lot of vegetable trucks in the central valley and watch for produce on the road. Sunday we came up on about 40 ears of corn all over I5! There isn't a lot of camping once you hit Marysville either. You will encounter heavy traffic as you enter Willits on 101 sometimes backing up a mile out of town. Heads up for the Hwy 20 cutoff in the middle of town. It's not well marked. An hour later you'll be on the coast. You may well encounter fog or cloudy conditions as you get close to the coast but it will cool off considerably.

One more thing while in California is our ridiculous trailer law. Vehicles pulling trailers or vehicles pulling vehicles are restricted to a legal limit of 55 mph.(just so you know)

Ride safe and a big Semper Fi to your grandson. If you've never been Marine graduation you'll be glad you did. Pride will take on a whole new meaning.
You guy are right it's 395 (little map); I had looked at Tom's route to 395 and thought that Barstow would be faster to get west then north?, thinking about the Central Valley. What about staying on 89 till 36 then west to 101? I wish we had more time, but we have want we have and we really want to do the Redwood Nat'l Park before starting back south.

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You guy are right it's 395 (little map); I had looked at Tom's route to 395 and thought that Barstow would be faster to get west then north?, thinking about the Central Valley. What about staying on 89 till 36 then west to 101? I wish we had more time, but we have want we have and we really want to do the Redwood Nat'l Park before starting back south.
36 from 5 to 101 is 140 miles of the best motorcycling you can find on the west coast! I can highly recommend that one! Will you be riding that before or after going to Rick's for the seat? When you pick up 36 in Red Bluff you are about 20 minutes from his shop in Anderson.

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Another route would be from US 395, take S.R. 89 north to S.R. 70 at Blairsden. From there go west on 70 through Portola and Quincy and down the Feather River Canyon. (It's a fun ride with great scenery!) Just before you reach Oroville, turn off onto S.R. 146 toward Chico and S.R. 99 to Red Bluff and the I-5 to Anderson. This will keep you off of any four lane roads with the exception of 99 south of and through Chico (About 15 miles.) I concur that S.R. 36 is the best motorcycle road around here. It'll be a hot ride though this time of year but when you're a few miles from the west end, you'll be rewarded with nice cool temps. Enjoy your trip!!
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36 from 5 to 101 is 140 miles of the best motorcycling you can find on the west coast! I can highly recommend that one!
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I concur that S.R. 36 is the best motorcycle road around here.
What they said.

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Thanks guys!

Hey appreciate the info, I think we have layed out our route. Just another question, how much is fuel in your area?

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You should have no troubles finding fuel along 395, 89 or 20. Be sure you have a full tank before heading out on 36 from Red Bluff to 101, it's 144 miles and the one gas stop may be closed, and it has crappy gas to boot.

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Hey appreciate the info, I think we have layed out our route. Just another question, how much is fuel in your area?
Of course, it varies by how remote the location is from the main freeways. The price of super at Chevron runs from $2.99 a gallon in metro areas to $3.59 along the coast. My guess is you'll be paying an average of $3.29 in California, less if you're willing to use Arco or one of the lesser unknown brands out there. I have used fuel from "Patriot" stations along the north coast that has run fairly well.

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My lovely wife are going to do 1 &101 north of Caspar August 13th and 14th, then pick up a Rick Mayer seat on our way to San Diego to see our grandson graduate from Marine Boot on the 17th.

My question is, we are leaving Prescott, Az on the 11th and we are thinking about going to Barstow pick up 385 north to 89 to 20 then west to 1. Any thoughts. Would there be a better way? Etc? I am not familiar with that part of the world so I am open to any suggestion. By the way we will be pulling the Unigo and camping some?
Bill,
I suppose you will be crossing L.A. to go to San Diego coming from Northern California. You can stop at my place and and rest or spend the night if you'd like and if it fits your schedule. I have a garage with tools if you need to fix or check anything.
I am located near the 405 and 101 freeway intersection.

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You should have no troubles finding fuel along 395, 89 or 20. Be sure you have a full tank before heading out on 36 from Red Bluff to 101, it's 144 miles and the one gas stop may be closed, and it has crappy gas to boot.
Having run 36 very recently I can confirm the only fuel station open was at the Wildwood Cafe about 40 miles in and they only have a single pump of questionable regular. If they're open be sure to stop and have a bite of breakfast or lunch, both served all day. Very nice older couple runs the cafe with excellent eats. Every other station was boarded up until Hydesville which is just before Hwy 101. There's a big station with a store, restrooms, espresso bar, and picnic tables called Murrish Market on the right as you come into Hydesville just past the fire station. Very reasonable fuel prices and an excellent break spot. My fuel economy going through Hwy 36 fully loaded two-up was about 32mpg.

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I suppose you will be crossing L.A. to go to San Diego coming from Northern California. You can stop at my place and and rest or spend the night if you'd like and if it fits your schedule. I have a garage with tools if you need to fix or check anything.
I am located near the 405 and 101 freeway intersection.
Not only are Gilles and Kathy wonderful people and gracious hosts, but Gilles makes a great ratatouille!

Enjoy your travels, Bill. I'm looking forward to visiting with you and hearing all about it when you return. Please shake your son's hand and congratulate him for me, and tell him that my family and I appreciate his service to our nation and that we wish him godspeed and blessings in all that he does.

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Not only are Gilles and Kathy wonderful people and gracious hosts, but Gilles makes a great ratatouille!
Sounds like someone wants to come back for another serving...
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Please shake your son's hand and congratulate him for me, and tell him that my family and I appreciate his service to our nation and that we wish him godspeed and blessings in all that he does.
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Bill...
I don't know if you've ever been to a USMC Graduation ceremony.

Like your young "Marine to be", if you haven't been, you have no idea how this is will affect you... forever. Bring lots of tissues for your wife.

There may be some nice roads to the Graduation... you may have some places you plan to see.... I promise you, things will be different after you experience the USMC Graduation... because you will be different, too....

May God's blessings be with your grandson and his fellow New Marines as they join those brave men and women of United States Marine Corps who serve today and have gone before them.

Let me know if there is anything we can help with. Semper Fidelis!

You probably already have this link:
http://www.mcrdsd.usmc.mil/default.htm

and here is where the 2007 Graduation Schedule can be found:
http://www.mcrdsd.usmc.mil/recruit_training_links.htm

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Not only are Gilles and Kathy wonderful people and gracious hosts, but Gilles makes a great ratatouille!
I thought ratatouille was a new Disney movie.

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I thought ratatouille was a new Disney movie.
The evil corporation is nothing but a copy cat!!!
Ratatouille has been in existence long before Mr. Disney took Mrs. Disney to a picnic in the woods where little Waltie was conceived...

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Absolutely!

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