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I've been looking for some good quality "tire irons" to change tires on my bike and have visited nearly a dozen auto parts stores. When I ask about tire irons they show me the 4-way lug wrenches and then tell me they don't have what I'm looking for - of course after looking at me as though I had a large third eye in the middle of my forehead. I guess everybody goes to the tire stores now days. Anybody know who might carry such in the greater Portland area?

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They have 3-4 types. Not sure about the age thing depends on what tires your changing.
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The No-Mar SpoonBars aren't cheap but won't damage your rims either.

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Ernie was using some homemade tire irons which worked OK, if you managed to not damage the rim itself. He's recently been gifted with a No-Mar Mounv/Demount Bar. Much easier and faster overall, and no risk of damaging the rims.

Note that I have no affiliation with No-Mar. While their products are a bit pricey, I have found that they do the job very well. Sometimes you just need the right tool for the job.

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Ernie was using some homemade tire irons which worked OK, if you managed to not damage the rim itself. He's recently been gifted with a No-Mar Mounv/Demount Bar. Much easier and faster overall, and no risk of damaging the rims.

Note that I have no affiliation with No-Mar. While their products are a bit pricey, I have found that they do the job very well. Sometimes you just need the right tool for the job.
I want to thank the Traveling LT Socializer for my newest and much needed No-Mar tire tool. I can't wait for the opportunity to try this baby out!

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They have 3-4 types. Not sure about the age thing depends on what tires your changing.
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I have always called them "tire irons", but all the auto parts shops I've been to are staffed by folks in their early 20's and they always took me to the items I've always called lug wrenches. That was the age thing. Thanks for the web site - looks like they have an option.

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Ernie was using some homemade tire irons which worked OK, if you managed to not damage the rim itself. He's recently been gifted with a No-Mar Mounv/Demount Bar. Much easier and faster overall, and no risk of damaging the rims.

Note that I have no affiliation with No-Mar. While their products are a bit pricey, I have found that they do the job very well. Sometimes you just need the right tool for the job.
Ken -

Thanks for the info. It looks like the No-Mar is used in conjunction with a tire machine that has a center pivot you can work off of? Is that the way you understand it?

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I want to thank the Traveling LT Socializer for my newest and much needed No-Mar tire tool. I can't wait for the opportunity to try this baby out!
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I'd be glad to try it out for/with you!!

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Ken -

Thanks for the info. It looks like the No-Mar is used in conjunction with a tire machine that has a center pivot you can work off of? Is that the way you understand it?

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You are right Denny. My tire machine has an adapter for the motorcycle wheel/tire, removal/installation that the No-Mar bar pivots around to make it easier than using spoons.

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You are right Denny. My tire machine has an adapter for the motorcycle wheel/tire, removal/installation that the No-Mar bar pivots around to make it easier than using spoons.
Ernie -

That's what it looked like. Nice set up.

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The Mount/Demount Bar is used in conjunction with some sort of tire changing stand and is designed to pivot off of a central bar or post. That leverage along with the plastic ends is what really works well. We did a front Avon tire swap in a matter of minutes.

Since then, my friends have used the No-Mar bar on a rear BT020 and said the tire was much stiffer and they had more trouble getting it mounted. Even No-Mar recommends using their tire spoons for "Gold Wing" tires.

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When I ask about tire irons they show me the 4-way lug wrenches and then tell me they don't have what I'm looking for - of course after looking at me as though I had a large third eye in the middle of my forehead. I guess everybody goes to the tire stores now days.
Denny, Having been raised by a master mechanic and a brother with a auto shop (still to this day), I knew exactly what you wanted when you said "tire iron". But I could just imagine how many auto parts stores I'd have to visit before the punk behind the counter would know what a real tire iron was. Thanks for the chuckle...and the walk down memory lane.
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Denny, Having been raised by a master mechanic and a brother with a auto shop (still to this day), I knew exactly what you wanted when you said "tire iron". But I could just imagine how many auto parts stores I'd have to visit before the punk behind the counter would know what a real tire iron was. Thanks for the chuckle...and the walk down memory lane.
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Yep, tire irons just weren't in their vocabulary. Glad you got a chuckle out of it.

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I'd be glad to try it out for/with you!!

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You know where I live. We ought to have another tech session.

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You know where I live. We ought to have another tech session.
Sure, wait until I leave town. Have fun, guys.

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You know where I live. We ought to have another tech session.
I'm up for it. I need to do a 12K on my bike (at 24K now) and could really use some expertise on checking my valve clearances and drilling the brake slave unit. I don't have a lift or tire machine, but I could host at my place near Washougal if that works for everybody - we could probably get 3 maybe 4 bikes in the garage. I'd be up for coming somewhere else as well if that works better.

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Sure, wait until I leave town. Have fun, guys.
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I'm up for it. I need to do a 12K on my bike (at 24K now) and could really use some expertise on checking my valve clearances and drilling the brake slave unit. I don't have a lift or tire machine, but I could host at my place near Washougal if that works for everybody - we could probably get 3 maybe 4 bikes in the garage. I'd be up for coming somewhere else as well if that works better.

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It would be great to come by your place, however if we are to play with the tire changer it will have to be over here. We should pick a day. Ideas?

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It would be great to come by your place, however if we are to play with the tire changer it will have to be over here. We should pick a day. Ideas?
Ernie -

Some suggestions for a tech session from my perspective -

Nov 25th (Thaksgiving weekend may cut into family stuff)
Dec 9th
Dec 16

I could also do it this Saturday, but that's pretty soon. Dec 2nd is the planned trip to the Show in Seattle.

I'm open to suggestions.
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I could do Dec 9th, but won't have a bike. Glad to help, though.

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Nov 25th (Thaksgiving weekend may cut into family stuff)
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I could also do it this Saturday, but that's pretty soon. Dec 2nd is the planned trip to the Show in Seattle.

I'm open to suggestions.
The 9th would work for me but since I'm back working nights I may have to have a late start, say... 10am. For some that is their "middle-of-day", but for some (especially traveling social instigators) that means a normal sleep pattern.

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I could do Dec 9th, but won't have a bike. Glad to help, though.
Please plan to come by and help (we can use the brain trust account), and December 9 works for me.

BTW I'm trying the tire bar today (on a Honda Valkerie). Also, DaRoid is stopping by to wash his VFR. He might rival you in as much that he only cleans his machine once every two years.

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The 9th at 10 am works for me. I'll be there. What can I bring in terms of tools, torque wrenches, etc.

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