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Portland Tech Session 8/26

I'm rapidly coming up on another 12K service (84K, actually). I'll be doing it at Ernie's Shop & Shine on Saturday August 26th. Anyone who wants to come down and watch is more than welcome. If you need something done on your bike, let us know and we'll try to fit it in.

Add your name to the list so we can plan ahead.

1. Ernie
2. Ken

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post #2 of 18 Old Aug 19th, 2006, 1:58 am
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I'm rapidly coming up on another 12K service (84K, actually). I'll be doing it at Ernie's Shop & Shine
Does that mean we will finally detail your LT Mr. Meese? I'm thinkin' we will give her a pretty shine in prep for the Labor Day weekend ride to WY (That is if work doesn't get in the way). What do you think we'll find under all that road scum?

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Bummer! I'm leaving for a road trip with a friend from Santa Fe, NM on Friday the 25th. I'm looking forward to meeting all you guru's one of these days, but gotta ride whenever, wherever.

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Add your name to the list so we can plan ahead.

1. Ernie
2. Ken
3. Eric


I need a little help/advise for a brake flush, I don't think the PO ever did one. I'm at 13.5K.
I think I might wait until 24K to check the valves? Unless watching Ken's doesn't scare me.

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I have a couple things to do to my LT also. I'm going to rewire my front turn-signals with the '05 sockets. The new sockets will replace the OEM, and the generic Auto sockets that I installed, in order to have the dual fillament bulbs (1157). The new sockets will plug in easier and have better connectors.

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We can wash it, sure. It's a bit overdue. But I doubt we'll have time to detail it. Here's my list so far:

Full 12K service.
Fix low beam HID (won't come on).
Rewire helmet mic & speakers.
Install PHID lights and wire up.
Install MotoLocker shelf and reroute V1 wiring.
Make brackets to install Mick-O-Pegs with existing Highway Ottomans.
(Yes, I've been collecting farkles. )

I also need to mess with tires, but first I need to figure out what I'm doing there (only radial rear, or both bias). Plus we can always get the west side boys involved in that one.

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Directions to Ernie's Shop & Shine

Mapquest has some very interesting ideas about the location of the elusive
"Ernie's Shop & Shine".
Some directions would be a very good thing.
What time are you going to get started and do you need any tools?

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Mapquest has some very interesting ideas about the location of the elusive
"Ernie's Shop & Shine".
Some directions would be a very good thing.
What time are you going to get started and do you need any tools?
Good point Eric. How about a map? Tools? I think we got it covered. See you around 10am. Meese is not an early riser, unless he is doing an IBA ride.
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Could you folks post some notes and photos of the PHID install (especially the results -- at night, in use)? This is on my wish list.

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Sorry I can't make it this time, What's a phid? Ernie, I need to get with you sometime and get the perticulars about your lighting mod. Mine are corrided a bit and I want to upgrade to full time running lights as well. I could bribe you with a set of those foam grips.

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Sorry I can't make it this time, What's a phid? Ernie, I need to get with you sometime and get the perticulars about your lighting mod. Mine are corrided a bit and I want to upgrade to full time running lights as well. I could bribe you with a set of those foam grips.
We'll miss you my friend. I'll be sure to take a picture or two of the turn signal socket swap. It looks easy enough. Going on your long ride...or shall we call it a "Ride-a-bout" since you are not on foot?

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No matter how many times you do a tech session, there is always some new challenge. We got the bike torn down, valves checked, and all fluids replaced in just over 3 hours. After an excellent lunch (thanks Pauline) we got the fuel filter changed and the rear tire changed. The screw clamps on the fuel filter seemed a bit loose, so I figured I'd have to swap them out next time.

I'd realized on the way over that I'd forgotten my PHID lights and MotoLocker shelf. So I borrowed Ernie's bike (thanks Ernie) and retrieved them. We got the Motolocker shelf mounted and the V1 wiring rerouted up to it, but decided to pass on the PHIDs (sorry Howard) as there was no wiring harness, and some rather odd looking power plugs on the ballasts.

Just after an excellent dinner (thank again Pauline) we got the bike all buttoned back up and I headed back. I got about halfway when the bike sputtered and started to die. I'd purposely let the fuel run low in preparation for removing the tank, but should have had enough to get me back.

I rolled off the nearest off-ramp, and coasted as a far as I could. I gotta break this running out of fuel habit. I could see businesses ahead, but couldn't quite roll there. As I was checking the GPS for the nearest fuel station (which happened to be closed), a pickup rolled up and asked if I needed help. He returned in 5 minutes with a dirt bike fuel can with just under a gallon in it. The bike sputtered, but wouldn't quite catch. I rolled the bike to a parking lot, and we went off to get more gas. After 3 additional gallons and rolling down a long hill still wouldn't get the bike started, I knew what it was. So I called my roommate, who kindly got his trailer and retrieved me (thanks, Thom).

The next day, I removed the tupperware and stingray and pulled the fuel gauge sensor tube. Sure enough, one end of fuel hose had come off of the filter. Next time things don't quite feel right, stop right there and get better clamps before proceeding.

So after a trip to the local hardware store for a Really Big pair of channel locks and a couple of really small hose clamps, I pulled the tank, replaced the clamps, replaced the quick-disconnect o-rings, and hit the starter.

Yep, a dead battery. Luckily, Thom had jumper cables, so after I verified that the bike ran OK, I put the tupperware back on, jumped it once more, and went for a nice, long ride to charge things back up.

I'm so looking forward to having a real clutch again soon.

I didn't want to spend the whole weekend working on the bike, but having good friends both virtual and local and kind strangers meant that I had all the support I needed. The bike feels much better now, though I still smell a bit like petrol. All in all, not a bad weekend then.

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[QUOTE=meese]The next day, I removed the tupperware and stingray and pulled the fuel gauge sensor tube. Sure enough, one end of fuel hose had come off of the filter. Next time things don't quite feel right, stop right there and get better clamps before proceeding.
QUOTE]

It was our pleasure to host the session and Eric came away with a windshield too. Good words to live by on the "not quite right" feeling one gets doing a service. I'm glad it is all sorted out in the end. See you this week.

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Sorry you had difficulties Ken. But, as usual you fixed it. The only maintenance I plan on doing before I leave on my trip is to clean the windshield. Although somewhere during the 8-10k trip I will need to do oil and rear tire change.

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Ken, sorry to hear of your problems, but glad you were able to fix them! Good point on when "something doesn't feel right" scenario. I've had similar things on other vehicles and aircraft. The other good point is when something does go awry, look where you last had your hands! Often the cure is right there.

This just brings up one of the reasons that i for one am just a little hesitant about jumping onto a new machine, like the GT. We really do have a good feel for how the LT runs, and what her quirks are. Plus the maintenance really isn't that bad once you learn it all. I wonder how the valves are going to be on the new 4 cylinder the GT has? Just thinking.

Sorry we did not get over there for the Tech Session, but this past weekend was a recovery session for some of us!

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We did miss you, but we understand.

And don't worry about maintenance on the GT. You can bet I'll have one stripped down the first week I get it.

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Ken,
Sorry you had problems with that fuel filter. It look like you had it under control

Ernie,
That Cee Bailet is sooooo much better than the short shield I had!
Thanks !!!!!

I had a great time and be sure to thank Pauline for lunch.

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It wasn't too much trouble, it just meant pulling the tank again. I'm getting pretty good at that.

It was good to hang out with you for a bit Eric. Next time we'll have to go riding instead.

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