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post #1 of 18 Old May 6th, 2007, 6:50 am Thread Starter
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Routing - Montreal to Philly

After a business trip to Toronto, I am coming down on Wed/Thu thru Montreal to Philly. Any suggestions on a good route. I have done the bottom 1/2-2/3rds of Route 100...it was OK, but a little too crowded for my taste. Any other ideas guys....
Likes= twisty and empty.
Dislikes= straight and/or crowds

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try rt 11 or 15. These go south but put you west of Philly.

You will still have some traffic in the areas around the major towns.
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Here is a route suggestion (attached Excel file). 528 miles, you won't have the shortest time between the two points, but you should arrive with a smile!

If you have a Garmin GPS I can send you a file for that....
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Is this a MS Streets & Trips route? If so, if you can send it to me I'd love to use it.... S&T is something I use nearly every day.

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Ralph,
It is a Microsoft Excel file. I have attached it for your information. Enjoy the ride!
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Thanks for watching my back Mike!

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After a business trip to Toronto, I am coming down on Wed/Thu thru Montreal to Philly. Any suggestions on a good route. I have done the bottom 1/2-2/3rds of Route 100...it was OK, but a little too crowded for my taste. Any other ideas guys....
Likes= twisty and empty.
Dislikes= straight and/or crowds

TIA.
You have not discussed the Canadian side of the trip. 401 in Toronto is the busiest hiway in North America, leave early to miss the rush hour. You will be going East while everyone is coming is so should miss the stop and go. This will give you some taste of what Montreal is going to be like. SO unless you are very comfortable with New York City type traffic or worse, reading direction signs in French, "Point" is bridge, watching for exits that can be from the left lane or the right, and the wrong one will put you into a series of one way streets that will confuse a GPS, plus looking to go a few hours out of your way to do so, I would not suggest going through Montreal. There are crossings prior to Montreal that will give you a more enjoyable ride and are more direct heading south to Philly.
On the MS&T look at either crossings at Gananouque, on I-81 to Watertown, NY or stay on 401 and cross at either Hi-way 16 to Ogdensburg, NY or at Cornwall, ON. The Cornwall crossing will set you up to take 30 south through the Adirondacks. Ride safe.
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Mike, I did understand that....what I meant was, was this derived from S&T, because if it was, I'd love the S&T route.

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Thanks Lucky....I have decided to take the Cornwall crossing. Its hard to see a city from the back of a bike I've found :-).

I am near the airport just off Dixie in Mississauga and I have to stay until 5 or 6, so I think I'll take the 410 to the 407 east as I suspect the 401 will be a parking lot. What is the best route off the end of the 407 back onto the 401? I'll ride until about 10pm, putting me somewhere near Kingston I reckon. That's about 630 miles on Wednesday thru Cornwall and the Adirondaks, then interstating it home.

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Mike, I did understand that....what I meant was, was this derived from S&T, because if it was, I'd love the S&T route.

Thanks
No it is from Garmin Mapsource.... BTW The Rt 30 crossing into the US and then Rt 30 itself is not to be missed!
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That time of day 407 is the way to go, however it is an electronic toll way, using a transponder. They claim they are sending a bill re the lic. plate number, but my brother is from PA and he has not received any billing for any time he uses the 407. Just a note the hiway was privatized and is owned by a Spanish company, I assume the same one that is building a large toll way around Dallas/Ft. Worth. From 410 to the end it might cost (est.) $15.00, but it will be worth it to stay off the 401 that time of day.
At the end of the 407 keep straight on hi-way 7 and than take #12 south to pick up the 401. Watch the speed on these two roads the locals work hard catching folks. This is exit 410 and the Kingston exit is 617, 207 Kilometers & at a 120K per hour ( about 75 mph) depending on Toronto traffic 10Pm looks realistic. Once you clear Oshawa the traffic opens up and moves fairly well. Looking for a cup of coffee with a slice of apple pie, stop at the Big Apple, exit 497, can't miss it.
I hope this has not missed your departure, or you can pick this up while in Mississauga.
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Just did a final check and got this....just what I wantd Lucky.

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If you want to stay off the highways you can take NY 22 just over the US border and follow that all the way down to I-84. Two lane road and lots of little towns but not really a bad ride.

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I'll be coming in from Cornwall. Do I miss something good by cutting across on the 37 to Malone and picking up the 30 there? Is it worthwhile to run across on the 20 to Trout River and start on the 30 from there?

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Well the US crossing at RT30 is VERY low volume, but crossing at Cornwell and then intersecting Rt30 will work OK. Enjoy!!

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Thanks for your advice everyone. I came out of Toronto and 7.45pm and risked the 401...it was fine and I stayed in Kingston...sorry, was ripped off in Kingston...I went to the 4 Points Sheraton and they said $180...too much, went to the Holiday Inn and they were $175...same as the Courtyard in Mississauga! OMG. By then I was too tired to search further.

Anyway, I found the 30 a very pleasant road. The scenery was nice and backwoodsy. The 30 is a little overengineered for my comfort and I rode the whole way at 65 on cruise control and only had to touch the brake a few times for cops and a handful of corners. Reminded me of the Natchez Trace in that way. A cruisers dream I'd think. In the search for something a little more exciting I took the 8W and then the 10S. This was more upbeat as you could up the speed a bit and then have a few heartstoppers on the tar snakes with which it is riddled.

All-in-all the 30 is a good alternative for those wanting a pleasant N-S route. Just watch the cops and I suspect stay off it on summer weekends as there are lots of double yellows.

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Glad to hear you had a good trip, sorry about the high rate of hotel rooms, I stay at the Comfort Inn in Kingston and it still brakes the $100 range. However the good news it is in Canadian so an automatic 10% discount. Price of gas hitting $1.20 per Liter today for premium. Gives me a great reason to make most of my sales calls on the Lt verses the Montana.
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Thanks for your advice everyone. I came out of Toronto and 7.45pm and risked the 401...it was fine and I stayed in Kingston...sorry, was ripped off in Kingston...I went to the 4 Points Sheraton and they said $180...too much, went to the Holiday Inn and they were $175...same as the Courtyard in Mississauga! OMG. By then I was too tired to search further.

Anyway, I found the 30 a very pleasant road. The scenery was nice and backwoodsy. The 30 is a little overengineered for my comfort and I rode the whole way at 65 on cruise control and only had to touch the brake a few times for cops and a handful of corners. Reminded me of the Natchez Trace in that way. A cruisers dream I'd think. In the search for something a little more exciting I took the 8W and then the 10S. This was more upbeat as you could up the speed a bit and then have a few heartstoppers on the tar snakes with which it is riddled.

All-in-all the 30 is a good alternative for those wanting a pleasant N-S route. Just watch the cops and I suspect stay off it on summer weekends as there are lots of double yellows.

Yep, 10S used to be one of my favorites until they patched it! Those tar snakes suck in the rain! Glad you arrived safe and sound....

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