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Sep 1st, 2008 9:57 pm
zippy_gg
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by mgbmw2002
Got home last night, good to sleep in own bed.
Mike, glad you made it home safe and sound.
We just got back from CCR yesterday, after being caught in a thunderstorm on Saturday afternoon in Mesquite where the off ramp to our hotel was a dead end as the intersection was under 2 feet of muddy water and all traffic lights were out due to a power outage.
I hope your home was OK after all the rain brought by Faye.
Sep 1st, 2008 8:50 pm
Razmataz
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by mgbmw2002
Yeah, you too! Quite a coincidence. Wish we coulda stayed longer & BS'd, but the ol' girl @ the gas station ran us out of our spot, + had a long way to go. Made it to Monteagle, TN on Mon. night, raining hard. Stayed at the Smoke House Inn, then rode in more rain thru most of GA. Had a couple close calls yesterday, first thing off, at the bottom of the mountain, I strayed a little on to the yellow line on a curve. (slippery when wet!) Another in Chattanooga when a truck, despite all the horn and light flashing, came into the left lane and ran us right off the road. Got home last night, good to sleep in own bed. Maybe we can get together next year. MG.
Yeah, went thru Chattanooga this year in a car. Lots of traffic at close quarters, lots of twisties. Plenty of braking. Glad things worked out for you. Went thru some nasty storms myself just south of there heading towards Atlanta. Let me know if you're up this way again.
Sep 1st, 2008 6:05 pm
tmgs
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voyager
Likewise. If I get to where I don't trust my LT to get me there and back without an FD failure, I'll get rid of it. And if it leaves me stranded, I'll get rid of it. I've only had one vehicle leave me stranded (I do most of my own maintenance and don't let things go neglected intentionally) and I got rid of it shortly thereafter. A vehicle gets one shot with me.

So far, I have no concern with my 07 LT, but if it leaves me stranded ... it, and BMW, are history for me.
my last final drive has 100k on it, I just sold thebike but not because I was worried about a final drive failure. I'm back up to 7 bikes again, so I sold the highest mileage one I had
Aug 28th, 2008 10:04 pm
SilverBuffalo
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by TouringProf
“you left out the most important part of that statement, the smiley.

Now, if your original post was entirely in jest, and I misinterpreted it,
I apologize for my response
Duude......I was having fun with my friends (hence the smiley)

I'm humbled and awe inspired by your intellectual "superiority
but an apology is not necessary among friends,

however this does prove that no matter how smart you may be,
there are times when you can still be wrong.
Aug 28th, 2008 4:27 am
stevie1
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

If its rain you want!, come to the UK, then you will know what getting wet really means.
Regards
Stevie
Aug 28th, 2008 1:23 am
TouringProf
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverBuffalo
Dude,
you left out the most important part of that statement, the smiley.

I used to work with a guy we "dubbed" the professor
('cause he thought he knew it all)
Just wondering? got any relatives down here?
Wells, Hans, let’s just take these one at a time.

“you left out the most important part of that statement, the smiley.

Sorry. Will try not to let it happen again.

“I used to work with a guy we "dubbed" the professor”

Unfortunately, I’ve only received that title from a few Universities. I’m certain that it doesn’t have the prestige that your acquaintance received from whoever ‘we’ were.

“('cause he thought he knew it all)”

Perhaps he actually did, and the group previously known as ‘we’ did not have the ability to recognize the fact. Or, perhaps he did not know it all, just more than the group previously known as ‘we’.... entirely possible if the group known as 'we' came from the land of hanging chads...

“Just wondering? got any relatives down here?”

Actually, two sisters. Thanks for inquiring

My original response to you, which I will attempt to clarify and explain one last time, is that my interpretation of your message is that while:

- some folks were discussing the fact that the rear drive failures (or two) that they had experienced had caused them great discomfort / frustration;

- others were discussing how they had to obtain spares to keep at home to be shipped to them when they experienced a catastrophic failure far from home and perhaps in the middle of nowhere;

- still others were explaining how, although they had not yet had a failure, the worry that they experienced when on long tours (I have no idea what your riding patterns are like, but my feeling is that they were discussing touring outside the borders of Florida or a single state) was diminishing the enjoyment of riding a bike they were trying very hard to like/love;

you were labeling them ‘LT bashers’ and telling them to select the choice of kissing your butt or final drive.

If you think years of catastrophic FD failures is offset by the fact that when you ride in the rain you can do so without rain gear due to the excellent weather protection the LT provides, swell. I’ll tell you who is even drier in the rain. That would be the LT rider in the cab of the tow truck riding to the nearest dealer with his/her failed FD LT on the hook or on the flatbed.

I don’t believe that anyone in the thread was ‘bashing’ LTs. I think most of us who do or have owned them really love this bike. I know I did. I think what you were hearing is the vented frustration of owners who are experiencing or worrying about experiencing a failure in the middle of nowhere, who are dealing with a company that for years now has not only refused to step up to the issue, but has refused to admit that the issue even exists. Good weather protection is not an offset to this problem, and is IMHO not a very empathetic or helpful contribution to a post which started with a member asking for help because his trip was interrupted with yet another FD failure. At no time did I say I knew everything; although I do think that I know that riding dry between FD failures is not the measure that most riders would use in assessing the quality or reliability of a long distance touring motorcycle.

Now, if your original post was entirely in jest, and I misinterpreted it, I apologize for my response. If I understood it correctly, well then.......

YMMV, probably does, and eventually will.
Aug 27th, 2008 8:58 pm
SilverBuffalo
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
"Oh and regarding you LT "bashers"
y'all can kiss my rear end or final drive (your choice)
I just did almost two hundred miles in the rain and got home "relatively" dry,
I love this bike."
Dude,
you left out the most important part of that statement, the smiley.

I used to work with a guy we "dubbed" the professor
('cause he thought he knew it all)
Just wondering? got any relatives down here?
Aug 27th, 2008 4:22 pm
TouringProf
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveDragon
I wasn't commenting on the FD failures, just rain protection, and yes it rains here 12 months a year.

That's right, you weren't, but my original response was to:

"Oh and regarding you LT "bashers"
y'all can kiss my rear end or final drive (your choice)
I just did almost two hundred miles in the rain and got home "relatively" dry,
I love this bike."

which was part of the FD drive failure discussion...
Aug 27th, 2008 3:46 pm
TouringProf
Re: paranoid?

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveDragon
Dude, we live in Florida and it's been raining sideways on and off for more than a week.
How wet we get is an important measure of comfort.

That Said, My GS has no where near the rain protection of the LT but I still ride her in the rain any time I can.

In Florida, if you don't ride in rain, you just don't ride.

Dude, I live in Colorado, where it not only rains but can snow any month of the year and catch you in it when going thru any pass up and down the front range; and I have been able over the last 10 years to get at least one ride a month in year round.....although I've periodically been caught in a snowstorm.

BUT, I wouldn't cite the weather protection capabilities of my Wing, my two LTs, or even my GT (which works for me quite well in that regard) in a thread on rear drive failures and carrying/shipping spare drives as a testament to why it is such a great bike!
Aug 27th, 2008 2:15 pm
mgbmw2002
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by Razmataz
Mike
It was nice meeting you & your significant other at the gas station the other day. What were the odds of that? Hope the rest of your ride went well....
Yeah, you too! Quite a coincidence. Wish we coulda stayed longer & BS'd, but the ol' girl @ the gas station ran us out of our spot, + had a long way to go. Made it to Monteagle, TN on Mon. night, raining hard. Stayed at the Smoke House Inn, then rode in more rain thru most of GA. Had a couple close calls yesterday, first thing off, at the bottom of the mountain, I strayed a little on to the yellow line on a curve. (slippery when wet!) Another in Chattanooga when a truck, despite all the horn and light flashing, came into the left lane and ran us right off the road. Got home last night, good to sleep in own bed. Maybe we can get together next year. MG.
Aug 26th, 2008 6:32 pm
Razmataz
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Mike
It was nice meeting you & your significant other at the gas station the other day. What were the odds of that? Hope the rest of your ride went well....
Aug 26th, 2008 5:53 pm
LAF
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voyager
Likewise. If I get to where I don't trust my LT to get me there and back without an FD failure, I'll get rid of it. And if it leaves me stranded, I'll get rid of it. I've only had one vehicle leave me stranded (I do most of my own maintenance and don't let things go neglected intentionally) and I got rid of it shortly thereafter. A vehicle gets one shot with me.

So far, I have no concern with my 07 LT, but if it leaves me stranded ... it, and BMW, are history for me.
+1 on this.

If it ever leaves me on the side of the road it will never get a second chance.

And I have a new FD boxed with the tools since I have owned the bike. I think it was the only thing that kept me from selling it to begin with. Even with warranty I felt I needed it because warranty is no good if there is not a shop or a FD in the Country when you need it.
Aug 26th, 2008 5:15 pm
Voyager
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by tmgs
I just find this funny, here we are paying 20k for a bike, and now keeping a spare final drive around to ship to us for WHEN it fails, I mean thats kind of Ironic or silly or sumptin.................
Likewise. If I get to where I don't trust my LT to get me there and back without an FD failure, I'll get rid of it. And if it leaves me stranded, I'll get rid of it. I've only had one vehicle leave me stranded (I do most of my own maintenance and don't let things go neglected intentionally) and I got rid of it shortly thereafter. A vehicle gets one shot with me.

So far, I have no concern with my 07 LT, but if it leaves me stranded ... it, and BMW, are history for me.
Aug 26th, 2008 4:36 pm
BecketMa
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

May be we need to buy a second LT, have it triked so that we have an extra FD, buy a trailer to put the disabled LT on, and tow the trailer behind the trike to pick up the LT?

Huuuuum. Come to think of it, we could just ride the trike, and pull the trailer with and LT on it.

Bob
Aug 26th, 2008 6:15 am
tmgs
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hackercraft792
I repeat. If you are as concerned as I was, purchase a used final drive, have it inspected/rebuilt, then pack it for shipping with the tools necessary to replace it and leave it with a non riding buddy who will ship it to you when it's needed. When you sell the bike include it as an accessory and you will get your money back. In the mean time you have peace of mind that if you do have a failure you will be prepared.
I learned this trick as a truck driver years age when we hauled cars with gas motors in our tractors. 409 chevys as I remember, good for about 80,000 miles and then they would blow. Most of the O/O's would have another engine in a pickup with a set of tools and 1 call home sent either the wife or son on the way with the spare. When you got home you had 80,000 or so to rebuild for the next time.
An ounce of protection is worth a pound of cure.
I just find this funny, here we are paying 20k for a bike, and now keeping a spare final drive around to ship to us for WHEN it fails, I mean thats kind of Ironic or silly or sumptin.................
Aug 25th, 2008 11:11 pm
Hackercraft792
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

I repeat. If you are as concerned as I was, purchase a used final drive, have it inspected/rebuilt, then pack it for shipping with the tools necessary to replace it and leave it with a non riding buddy who will ship it to you when it's needed. When you sell the bike include it as an accessory and you will get your money back. In the mean time you have peace of mind that if you do have a failure you will be prepared.
I learned this trick as a truck driver years age when we hauled cars with gas motors in our tractors. 409 chevys as I remember, good for about 80,000 miles and then they would blow. Most of the O/O's would have another engine in a pickup with a set of tools and 1 call home sent either the wife or son on the way with the spare. When you got home you had 80,000 or so to rebuild for the next time.
An ounce of protection is worth a pound of cure.
Aug 24th, 2008 8:40 pm
free2ride
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

The LT may be experiencing FD failures but I have to say that I love this forum and the LT owner's on it. I have ridden bikes for 30 years (many different makes) and I love BMW because it is like a family to me. I have ridden HD, Yamaha, Kawasaki and others and nothing is like BMW. I love my LT and wouldn't trade it for anything at this time.

I am in Dallas and if anyone ever needs a hand just let me know. Great riding to each of you.
Aug 24th, 2008 8:22 pm
Ron_Kendall
Re: paranoid?

Quote:
Originally Posted by HDusenbery
Just one thought

póg mo thóin
Just to clarify my comment, it was made in jest...so does that mean I won't be welcomed at the "Dry Ridge Inn" Weaverville, NC?
Aug 24th, 2008 5:44 pm
mconlogue
Re: paranoid?

Quote:
Originally Posted by HDusenbery
Just one thought

póg mo thóin

nice attitude, dickwad.


pog mo thoin
Irish Gaelic phrase that means "Kiss My Ass".
Aug 24th, 2008 4:03 pm
HDusenbery
Re: paranoid?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron_Kendall
Dude...read HDusenbery's profile...he's an Inn Keeper..I bet he's selling everyone's address to the thiefs when you check in..LOL

Dude, it's a big country/cyberworld so these guy are crusin blogs and then traveling how far? to rip me/you off, com/on you can't be that paranoid, almost everybody knows that 90%+ of the time its somebody you know that robs you ask your leo buddy.

Just one thought

póg mo thóin
Aug 24th, 2008 12:20 pm
SilverBuffalo
Re: paranoid?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cccpastorjack
Aw, come on Hans...them gray hair's ain't mile markers...you got those frettin' 'bout a Final Drive failure!

love ya bro!
Thanks for the laugh Jack.
But I stopped worrying about that after my first failure.
Nowadays I tend to worry more about large hairy four legged things
running out into the road.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TouringProf
Hans:

Interesting that your primary measure of quality, reliability, and performance in a long distance luxury tourer would be a short morning's drive in the rain without getting wet. I can do that on virtually any bike with the proper rain gear. The fact that you would find 200 miles with decent protection against the weather as newsworthy may be more of a bash job on the LT than others who actually complain about two successive rear drive failures. Just an observation.

YMMV, probably does, and eventually will.
Maybe I shoulda been more specific,
anything mechanical can and will break eventually,
that's not going to keep me "sitting on the couch"

I don't think I ever said anything about "newsworthy"

the rain gear was in the saddlebag, I never felt the need to stop and put it on.

There was light rain when I left (I didn't mind) I had the option of Interstate verses backroads, I opted for the slower long way just because I enjoy riding this bike that much and the ergonomics of this fine machine make even a less than perfect day a pleasure.

Sure I could have done the very same on a 1968 Suzuki X6 Hustler
(my first bike)
but it wouldn't have been as much fun!

Of course my wife will tell you that
I don't ever stop to put raingear on until I'm already wet!
Aug 24th, 2008 7:02 am
Ron_Kendall
Re: paranoid?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverBuffalo
My house got ripped off while I was out on the road and that was way back before there even was an internet, how do you suppose that happend?

Dude, it's a big country/cyberworld so these guy are crusin blogs and then traveling how far? to rip me/you off, com/on you can't be that paranoid, almost everybody knows that 90%+ of the time its somebody you know that robs you ask your leo buddy.

Oh and regarding you LT "bashers"
y'all can kiss my rear end or final drive (your choice)
I just did almost two hundred miles in the rain and got home "relatively" dry,
I love this bike.
Dude...read HDusenbery's profile...he's an Inn Keeper..I bet he's selling everyone's address to the thiefs when you check in..LOL

There are a lot of ways a thief can find out your not at home...my mother was ripped off while at a funeral...wonder how they knew she wouldn't be at home?
Aug 23rd, 2008 11:28 pm
TouringProf
Re: paranoid?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverBuffalo
Oh and regarding you LT "bashers"
y'all can kiss my rear end or final drive (your choice)
I just did almost two hundred miles in the rain and got home "relatively" dry,
Hans:

Interesting that your primary measure of quality, reliability, and performance in a long distance luxury tourer would be a short morning's drive in the rain without getting wet. I can do that on virtually any bike with the proper rain gear. The fact that you would find 200 miles with decent protection against the weather as newsworthy may be more of a bash job on the LT than others who actually complain about two successive rear drive failures. Just an observation.

YMMV, probably does, and eventually will.
Aug 23rd, 2008 10:19 pm
cccpastorjack
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Aw, come on Hans...them gray hair's ain't mile markers...you got those frettin' 'bout a Final Drive failure!

love ya bro!
Aug 23rd, 2008 8:45 pm
SilverBuffalo
Re: paranoid?

Quote:
Originally Posted by HDusenbery
Be careful about blogging your trip.

There have been occurances of riders blogging their trip only to have their house ransacked and major theft happen while they were on the road. An LEO friend has verified that thieves are crusing blogs and taking advantage of the owners absence.
My house got ripped off while I was out on the road and that was way back before there even was an internet, how do you suppose that happend?

Dude, it's a big country/cyberworld so these guy are crusin blogs and then traveling how far? to rip me/you off, com/on you can't be that paranoid, almost everybody knows that 90%+ of the time its somebody you know that robs you ask your leo buddy.

Oh and regarding you LT "bashers"
y'all can kiss my rear end or final drive (your choice)
I just did almost two hundred miles in the rain and got home "relatively" dry,
I love this bike.
Aug 23rd, 2008 7:34 pm
DanMartin
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Well, no calls today and no posts about failed rear drives. Made it into Albuquerque,stay tomorrow and then Grand Junction,then Midway.

Dan
Aug 23rd, 2008 7:18 pm
tmgs
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by browad
I think it's great that within 40 minutes of a "Please Help" post not only are there 2 solutions, but 2 people willing to go that extra mile. And then more people started offering. Great show of support all around.

Cheers,
this is a good thing about many groups such as this site,
it also seems that here no one gets greedy
Aug 23rd, 2008 12:18 pm
mgbmw2002
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Got her up and runnin' last night. Big thanks to all who replied and especially Gilles, who (went the extra mile). I'll see what I can do about pics. See ya'. MG.
Aug 23rd, 2008 9:55 am
dlbushey
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Thanks for the warning, but the house is still occupied and well protected during my absence.
Aug 23rd, 2008 9:45 am
HDusenbery
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Be careful about blogging your trip.

There have been occurances of riders blogging their trip only to have their house ransacked and major theft happen while they were on the road. An LEO friend has verified that thieves are crusing blogs and taking advantage of the owners absence.
Aug 23rd, 2008 8:04 am
dlbushey
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by cccpastorjack

But the Slave cylinders aren't...the shift linkage isnt...tranny seals aren't...no Cowbells ....no leaking fuel from quick disconnects....sidestand works great ....mirrors don't fall off....rear brakes don't sound like a Mack Truck screeching to a halt ...the battery stays charged ...doesn't "fog" for mosquitoes after being parked on the sidestand ....and I know it doesn't have a radio with four speakers, but neither do most LT's Don't have to go cuttin' brown wires...the wet clutches are miles better....and the trunk latches aren't breakin!

OK...I'll stop for now. Don't go gettin' too wrapped about the axle!!!! I told you I'm bored!


Jack,
So you traded all of that for false worn brake pad warnings, EWS failures, Air box and software issues, center stand failures, clutch squealing, and clunking transmissions. Yeah...I guess I can see that. Just ride it!

I just couldn't live without both my bikes. I still love my LT, and I'm totally in lust with my GT.

I'm leaving tomorrow (Sunday) for a 3 week 48 state trip on the GT. I just hope that if I have any problems, I get as quick of a response to a call for help as the original poster of this thread got. But with a great community like this, I shouldn't worry.

By the way, I'm blogging my trip if anyone is interested.
Aug 23rd, 2008 1:10 am
TouringProf
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

[QUOTE=amarider]OK you have a few, I mean a lot of points there....

But they have a fix for the final drive - It's called an FJR



Actually, I had one. It was a great bike; only problem was I had a 2005, the last year before they fixed the heat problem. 2005 & earlier - FJR = Family Jewel Roaster

lol
Aug 23rd, 2008 12:40 am
amarider
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

OK you have a few, I mean a lot of points there....

But they have a fix for the final drive - It's called an FJR


[QUOTE=cccpastorjack]
Quote:
Originally Posted by amarider


OK..to be truthful, everyone's at CCR...I'm stuck at home and it's BORING around here lately, so...true to my nature, I thought I'd liven it up a little!

And yes, I have heard about the new drives failing...

But the Slave cylinders aren't...the shift linkage isnt...tranny seals aren't...no Cowbells ....no leaking fuel from quick disconnects....sidestand works great ....mirrors don't fall off....rear brakes don't sound like a Mack Truck screeching to a halt ...the battery stays charged ...doesn't "fog" for mosquitoes after being parked on the sidestand ....and I know it doesn't have a radio with four speakers, but neither do most LT's Don't have to go cuttin' brown wires...the wet clutches are miles better....and the trunk latches aren't breakin!

OK...I'll stop for now. Don't go gettin' too wrapped about the axle!!!! I told you I'm bored!


Aug 23rd, 2008 12:06 am
TouringProf
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

[QUOTE=cccpastorjack]
Quote:
Originally Posted by TouringProf


Yea, but then you have to look through that 6 foot high windshield that's hand-adjustable and hang a few stuffed bears on the side!
Actually, I look over the standard windshield, which is indeed only hand adjustable, as I pass the 4%'s stranded in the middle of nowhere spend their time posting threads so that others who are touring long distance carrying spare rear drives can ship them to each other......

Sorry for the run-on sentence....

All in good cheer - I really enjoyed my LTs.
Aug 22nd, 2008 11:54 pm
cccpastorjack
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

[QUOTE=TouringProf]
Quote:
Originally Posted by cccpastorjack

And you can get all these benefits, WITH a premium sound radio, WITHOUT the rear drive failures, with a Gold Wing!

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Yea, but then you have to look through that 6 foot high windshield that's hand-adjustable and hang a few stuffed bears on the side!
Aug 22nd, 2008 11:40 pm
TouringProf
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

[QUOTE=cccpastorjack]
Quote:
Originally Posted by amarider


OK..to be truthful, everyone's at CCR...I'm stuck at home and it's BORING around here lately, so...true to my nature, I thought I'd liven it up a little!

And yes, I have heard about the new drives failing...

But the Slave cylinders aren't...the shift linkage isnt...tranny seals aren't...no Cowbells ....no leaking fuel from quick disconnects....sidestand works great ....mirrors don't fall off....rear brakes don't sound like a Mack Truck screeching to a halt ...the battery stays charged ...doesn't "fog" for mosquitoes after being parked on the sidestand ....and I know it doesn't have a radio with four speakers, but neither do most LT's Don't have to go cuttin' brown wires...the wet clutches are miles better....and the trunk latches aren't breakin!

OK...I'll stop for now. Don't go gettin' too wrapped about the axle!!!! I told you I'm bored!


And you can get all these benefits, WITH a premium sound radio, WITHOUT the rear drive failures, with a Gold Wing!

Sorry, couldn't help myself.
Aug 22nd, 2008 10:46 pm
cccpastorjack
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

[QUOTE=amarider]
Quote:
Originally Posted by cccpastorjack

Exactly why you sold your LT? Have you seen all the threads of rear drives failing on the new rear drives??? I hope you don't have those problems, change the fuild often and keep an eye on it.

OK..to be truthful, everyone's at CCR...I'm stuck at home and it's BORING around here lately, so...true to my nature, I thought I'd liven it up a little!

And yes, I have heard about the new drives failing...

But the Slave cylinders aren't...the shift linkage isnt...tranny seals aren't...no Cowbells ....no leaking fuel from quick disconnects....sidestand works great ....mirrors don't fall off....rear brakes don't sound like a Mack Truck screeching to a halt ...the battery stays charged ...doesn't "fog" for mosquitoes after being parked on the sidestand ....and I know it doesn't have a radio with four speakers, but neither do most LT's Don't have to go cuttin' brown wires...the wet clutches are miles better....and the trunk latches aren't breakin!

OK...I'll stop for now. Don't go gettin' too wrapped about the axle!!!! I told you I'm bored!


Aug 22nd, 2008 10:11 pm
Voyager
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by cccpastorjack
Dan, that is very generous of you. BUT THIS IS CRAZY....BMW Riders are carrying spare rear drives to events! Exactly why I sold my LT. Fantastic bike, but I got to the point that I couldn't trust it around the block. BMW needs to SEE these kinds of threads AND do something about it. It's a laughing stock at this point.

Now...turn on the flames....
No flames, but I am curious as to why you think the GT will prove better over the long haul. Is the design radically different? Is there really enough service history to have any significant statistics on failure rates of the GT?
Aug 22nd, 2008 8:27 pm
browad
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

I think it's great that within 40 minutes of a "Please Help" post not only are there 2 solutions, but 2 people willing to go that extra mile. And then more people started offering. Great show of support all around.

Mike, hope the transplant goes well and you're up and running shortly. Make sure to put up photos of you smiling after everything is done!

Cheers,
Aug 22nd, 2008 7:23 pm
dickkonarska
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

I have just triked out our 05 LT and have all the extra parts including the rear diff, hydralic center stand, side cases, etc. If you need any of these let me know and we will play "lets make a deal."
Aug 22nd, 2008 5:58 pm
tmgs
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by cccpastorjack
Dan, that is very generous of you. BUT THIS IS CRAZY....BMW Riders are carrying spare rear drives to events! Exactly why I sold my LT. Fantastic bike, but I got to the point that I couldn't trust it around the block. BMW needs to SEE these kinds of threads AND do something about it. It's a laughing stock at this point.

Now...turn on the flames....

so you sold your LT because of final drive failures......?

Then Bought a K1200GT? , I guess you havemissed the drive failures on other models like the GT.....

I mean, gee the new final drives seem to be worse than the lt drives from whatI have seen lately, heck My final drive on my LT has about 102k miles on it now and feel perfect and fluid looks perfect

BTW my Lt is now up for sale if any one wants a spare LT, and no not because of final drives, mines tested and works perfect!
we are up to 7 bikes again
Aug 22nd, 2008 4:58 pm
Diehly
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Jack,
No one could light a match that would have a flame to stand on. You are dead on. My wife and I have turned up the enjoyment level of motorcycling to a new level with this bike, but until BMW takes on a different attitude regarding this problem I won't be back to try my luck.
Aug 22nd, 2008 1:19 pm
kevincook
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by cccpastorjack
....Exactly why I sold my LT. ....

Hi Jack, all I can say is Joe.... Dave.... Ken.... Dave again.....

I don't think BMW solved the problem yet.

It is a good excuse for a NEW bike though.

Good Luck,
Kevin
Aug 22nd, 2008 12:21 pm
amarider
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

[QUOTE=cccpastorjack]
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanMartin
For those of you reading this that are going to CCR,I am bringing 2 drives with me.


Dan, that is very generous of you. BUT THIS IS CRAZY....BMW Riders are carrying spare rear drives to events! Exactly why I sold my LT. Fantastic bike, but I got to the point that I couldn't trust it around the block. BMW needs to SEE these kinds of threads AND do something about it. It's a laughing stock at this point.

Now...turn on the flames....
Exactly why you sold your LT? Have you seen all the threads of rear drives failing on the new rear drives??? I hope you don't have those problems, change the fuild often and keep an eye on it.
Aug 22nd, 2008 12:12 pm
DanMartin
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

[QUOTE=cccpastorjack]
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanMartin
For those of you reading this that are going to CCR,I am bringing 2 drives with me.


Dan, that is very generous of you. BUT THIS IS CRAZY....BMW Riders are carrying spare rear drives to events! Exactly why I sold my LT. Fantastic bike, but I got to the point that I couldn't trust it around the block. BMW needs to SEE these kinds of threads AND do something about it. It's a laughing stock at this point.

Now...turn on the flames....
Jack, I agree with you. I am crazy. Don't really care. This bike pushes my buttons better than anything else. But I do refuse to test a GT. Maybe in a few years.

dan
Aug 22nd, 2008 11:57 am
cccpastorjack
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by DanMartin
For those of you reading this that are going to CCR,I am bringing 2 drives with me.

Dan, that is very generous of you. BUT THIS IS CRAZY....BMW Riders are carrying spare rear drives to events! Exactly why I sold my LT. Fantastic bike, but I got to the point that I couldn't trust it around the block. BMW needs to SEE these kinds of threads AND do something about it. It's a laughing stock at this point.

Now...turn on the flames....
Aug 22nd, 2008 10:35 am
Ron_Kendall
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by zippy_gg
I was thinking the same thing! I was hoping that BMWNA would have made an effort, knowing so many LTs will be on the road next week...
If they did that, wouldn't they be admitting there is a problem & they don't trust their own product?
Aug 22nd, 2008 9:56 am
SilverBuffalo
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

I found this thread a little late to help mike,

but just for reference,
I've got a final drive from an 02 (rebuilt) sitting on the shelf
in St. Petersburg Florida.
Aug 22nd, 2008 6:47 am
DanMartin
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

For those of you reading this that are going to CCR,I am bringing 2 drives with me. If you get stranded,call me. Leaving Houston tomorrow morning.

Dan Martin
281-701-6208 (cell)
Aug 22nd, 2008 2:32 am
Morley
Re: Help! Rear Drive failure-stranded

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbear
If he is talking about Twin City BMW that is in Savoy which is a burb of Champange / Urbana.

Roy
I thought Champange WAS the burbs.
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