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Apr 20th, 2008 9:23 pm
jackd
Re: Countering wind noise?

Almost any CB windshield will quiet down the bike quite a lot. I have a cut down one that I bought that did the trick for me. Also if you open the wings that will increase the noise quite a bit.

As far as the front shock getting the ball joint free is the hardest part. I did mine this weekend. I was prepared to heat mine but it came off surprising easy with a 21MM box wrench and a 7MM Allen in the top.

I took mine off twice because I didn't remember how many threads were above the nut when I took off the link. In the end there wasn't enough to get the green loctite onto the threads. I could not believe the torque setting. My torque chart said it was 230 NM.. My big wrench only goes to 210 NM. I'll check it after my first test ride... I don't want a problem there.

Another issue I had the front Ohlin's had a flat spot notched on either side on the top of the shaft so you could hold the shaft to get the nut on. The stock shock had an Allen hold on the shaft.. It came off easy but to put that nut back on and torquing it required a crowfoot. I didn't have one so that cost me some for a kit at Sears. But know I have it.. The whole front shock looks a lot more intimadating on paper than it really is.

I looked around for a torque increase value but did not find one quickly. I know it must multiply the torque... I estimated about 10%.. I'll look some more during the week.. I'll be out of town all next week and I still need to finish my 12K next weekend.
Apr 20th, 2008 5:14 pm
Smith
Re: Countering wind noise?

The solution to your wind noise is a different wind shield. For some reason BMW seats and wind shields just dont measure up (imho). Try the CB #2 with wings. I use this shield -2. I'm 6' tall and this works just fine for me. I've tried several options and this one works (for me). Also, try adjusting the side wind deflectors to see if you get a different air flow.

Good luck,

Smith
'05 Dark Graphite
Greensboro, NC
Apr 20th, 2008 3:17 pm
LAF
Re: Countering wind noise?

No worries.

Let me know when you are going to go at it.

I agree you don't want it going on its side in your "shanty".

I have a "black jack" jack that I got with my lift, actually I got two of them. Maybe those can help you?

http://www.bestbuyautoequipment.com/.../blackjack.htm

Quote:
Originally Posted by yechave
Hi Lee,

I do recall your offer on the shocks. After many hours of searching, we ended up with the Ohlins, which were $300+ less than the dealer wanted. We did not want to spend the money, but with the back surgery we both have had, it is too risky to not have the best shocks on this bike. Had I any idea whatsoever it would take to maintain and repair this bike, I never would have bought it. BUT, it is one amazing machine, aside from the cost of ownership.

I just finished putting up a 8'x10' tarped roof for general storage and taking the bike apart in the driveway. I've been dealing with a lot of medical issues, one being chronic fatigue and pain, so I really had not been able to address being able to commit to traveling anywhere to do this work. The other is dealing with having to wear trifocals, having to take them on and off, and on and off, to be able to see what I am working on. It takes a LONG time to do what used to come so easily. I work at a snail's pace, unfortunately.

I have enough problems getting the tools in and out of the basement and need access to whatever I may need that I do have. I also read it is best to do them both at the same time, removing the rear, then the front and install the reverse order.

I have yet to look beyond this Tuesday for the fast idle testing. If that pans out, it seems best to start taking it apart asap, and do what I can. The shocks are quite painful to ride with.

I have to watch the service DVD's again, see how to get everything apart.

I had also hoped to install some aux lighting, but funds do not permit at this point. Maybe I can run some wires to prepare for the lights to be installed later, and not have to take everything apart again.

The estimate I got for the air, fuel filter and front shock install are way out my means to have done by the dealer. $345 plus the filters and tax! And, that is with all the panels already removed.

If you like, I can contact you once I get all the panels off. PM if you want to have me call you when I get to the front shock. I don't want to make any assumptions until I actually see what it looks like in there.

This has been my biggest concern however. I read contradicting threads on how its done. I DO NOT want the bike to fall over. I have no room for that, literally. I've read some saying use heat on the nut to remove, others use air impact, others long breaker bars.

I have one buddy mechanically inclined, who is available to help on a sat morning for a couple of hours, weather dependent. Other than that, I am on my own on this one.

At least I have a vehicle to go for parts if needed, the dealer is about 35 mins or so from my place. I intend to do the linkage lube, FD oil change, and that should complete my service for this year.

I've read it should take about 60-90 mins for the rear (for those without difficulty seeing and have seen or done one before). The dealer estimated 5 hrs for the front shock, air and fuel filters, so it looks fairly time consuming to do the shock. I am expecting it to take me about a week, I hope no more than that. I may even pull the windshield and take care of the problems with the wind deflectors over the mirrors, see what else is in there.

If there were time to visit / watch someone else changing their shocks, not too far away, I would appreciate seeing how it was done.

Thanks for the invite!

Wayne
Apr 20th, 2008 2:51 pm
yechave
Re: Countering wind noise?

Hi Lee,

I do recall your offer on the shocks. After many hours of searching, we ended up with the Ohlins, which were $300+ less than the dealer wanted. We did not want to spend the money, but with the back surgery we both have had, it is too risky to not have the best shocks on this bike. Had I any idea whatsoever it would take to maintain and repair this bike, I never would have bought it. BUT, it is one amazing machine, aside from the cost of ownership.

I just finished putting up a 8'x10' tarped roof for general storage and taking the bike apart in the driveway. I've been dealing with a lot of medical issues, one being chronic fatigue and pain, so I really had not been able to address being able to commit to traveling anywhere to do this work. The other is dealing with having to wear trifocals, having to take them on and off, and on and off, to be able to see what I am working on. It takes a LONG time to do what used to come so easily. I work at a snail's pace, unfortunately.

I have enough problems getting the tools in and out of the basement and need access to whatever I may need that I do have. I also read it is best to do them both at the same time, removing the rear, then the front and install the reverse order.

I have yet to look beyond this Tuesday for the fast idle testing. If that pans out, it seems best to start taking it apart asap, and do what I can. The shocks are quite painful to ride with.

I have to watch the service DVD's again, see how to get everything apart.

I had also hoped to install some aux lighting, but funds do not permit at this point. Maybe I can run some wires to prepare for the lights to be installed later, and not have to take everything apart again.

The estimate I got for the air, fuel filter and front shock install are way out my means to have done by the dealer. $345 plus the filters and tax! And, that is with all the panels already removed.

If you like, I can contact you once I get all the panels off. PM if you want to have me call you when I get to the front shock. I don't want to make any assumptions until I actually see what it looks like in there.

This has been my biggest concern however. I read contradicting threads on how its done. I DO NOT want the bike to fall over. I have no room for that, literally. I've read some saying use heat on the nut to remove, others use air impact, others long breaker bars.

I have one buddy mechanically inclined, who is available to help on a sat morning for a couple of hours, weather dependent. Other than that, I am on my own on this one.

At least I have a vehicle to go for parts if needed, the dealer is about 35 mins or so from my place. I intend to do the linkage lube, FD oil change, and that should complete my service for this year.

I've read it should take about 60-90 mins for the rear (for those without difficulty seeing and have seen or done one before). The dealer estimated 5 hrs for the front shock, air and fuel filters, so it looks fairly time consuming to do the shock. I am expecting it to take me about a week, I hope no more than that. I may even pull the windshield and take care of the problems with the wind deflectors over the mirrors, see what else is in there.

If there were time to visit / watch someone else changing their shocks, not too far away, I would appreciate seeing how it was done.

Thanks for the invite!

Wayne
Apr 20th, 2008 12:46 pm
LAF
Re: Countering wind noise?

Have you thought about a Tech Session on those shocks?

I will be doing mine soon, and since there are a lot of guys around this area, especially some that are very experienced, it may be something we all would like to do, help, see.

I know at the very least, I would come and give you a hand in you would like. And offer any tools you may need you might not have.

Funny that I offered you my stock shocks and we are finally getting around to installing our choices.

Casualty of a car port only in my case and I think less then that for you.

I am not sure if a table lift would make this job any easier, but the one under my car port could be an option for you to consider if you think it would help. Of course then it should be a "supervised" Tech Session with a Mentor, so it can be done in a reasonable day.

Not sure how long a job it is, anyone done them both in a day have a time frame?
Apr 20th, 2008 12:08 pm
yechave
Re: Countering wind noise?

With the tall factory shield all the way up, no noise at all, but I don't like looking through the shield and I get that back draft on the back of my neck. Haven't ridden in the rain yet, so have to see how that works out down the road.

I took another look at the LL company pics, only saw one LT posted, and it was set higher than what I had first tried. Most of the time I ride with it fairly low. Does anyone have the factory low shield and use a Laminar Lip? I now see there is also a "touring Lip" model, and will have to check with the company next week to see which I have.

Another aspect to this which I did not mention, I have been riding a bit faster the past couple of days since my ride with another very experienced forum member the other day.. I generally had been riding about 4k rpm, but have since seen some riding in the 6k+ range, which needless to say, has been much faster than I have ridden since getting the bike just a couple K miles ago.

Tuesday the bike goes in for the computer test to see if there is any problem with the injectors and related issues that could be causing the fast idle and occasional stalling problem. I have not had the stalling issue the past three weeks now.

I ran two tanks of injector cleaner through this weekend.

If that all works out, the bike comes apart next week for the shock replacements.

Till then, it looks like I will use the ear plugs.

Appreciate your ideas!
Apr 20th, 2008 12:14 am
ArthurKnowles
Re: Countering wind noise?

I'm surprised you are having a problem as well. At full extension, I do not get any wind noise or turbulance at any speed on the LT with any of my helmets (Nolan 102, Zox, or Shoei RF-1000).

If not at full extension or if oyur helmet is above the shield hight you can expext noise & turbulence no matter what helmet you wear. If that's the case you need a taller (maybe wider) sheild. For my money, I will only buy a polycarbonate shield. You can look online here vis the search tool to see why. That leaves me BMW, Wunderlich, and I think one other brand (might be ZTechnic not sure) as choices.
Apr 19th, 2008 10:10 pm
Mugszy
Re: Countering wind noise?

So just raising the windscreen to the desired height does not work for you? Besides reducing wind noise, I use the top edge of the shield to force me to sit up and look far enough ahead (I prefer to look over the shield not through it).
Apr 19th, 2008 8:47 pm
yechave
Countering wind noise?

I have a new tall factory shield. I have made two attempts to set up a new Laminar Lip, attempting to get the wind to blow over the helmet. First I tried it about 1" above (which was not too bad but did not care for all the extra plastic edges in my vision), and then tried it about 2"+ below the top of the shield (which was terrible), LL company stated it could go as low as 4" under the top factory edge. I had to take the Lip off today to finish my 110 mile ride.

The wind noise was just too much. Ear plugs would work, but then I would not be able to use the COM system. I have a Nolan 102C helmet, not bad with the helmet shield up, but quite noisy with it down. I took the outer dark shield off, did not make any difference.

I am going to try the Lip one or two more places as soon as the dual locks get here. If that does not work, I am looking for suggestions first on another windshield, possibly an Aeroflow or Cee Bailey shield. I've read some of the treads ( a lot of questions went unanswered), but I am looking for information more specific to what you and I have or have used in common.

Last would be another helmet, but no time soon.

I would appreciate some feedback from others that have been through a couple of different types of shields and or bought a different helmet after owning a Nolan.


Thanks in advance!

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