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Jan 17th, 2007 11:55 pm
jayjacobson
Quote:
Originally Posted by deancardey
Over here in the UK,we leave our Guiness and beer in the porch.Its always cold enough.And you think you have it tough.Plus if her indoors wont let me in,i'm sorted.We have a lover porch,spent many a happy night in lt.

Dean
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Guinness on the porch.....now that's what I'm talking about!
Jan 17th, 2007 9:53 am
deancardey Over here in the UK,we leave our Guiness and beer in the porch.Its always cold enough.And you think you have it tough.Plus if her indoors wont let me in,i'm sorted.We have a lover porch,spent many a happy night in lt.

Dean
Jan 17th, 2007 7:50 am
jayjacobson However, I do love and appreciate German motorcycles and have two Beemers. I'd have more if my wife would let me.

Robin, you have swerved in to another topic near and dear to my heart. But, at the risk of hi-jacking ANOTHER thread, i digress!
Jan 17th, 2007 7:08 am
Robin
Uh-Oh

I'm afaid I have a cofession to make. I don't mind Guiness too much but basically I don't LIKE beer at all. It pretty much tastes the same to me, though my son and my daughter are extremely well versed in the different beers from this and other countries. They are true beer lovers and know more about it than I ever will or want to.
However, I do love and appreciate German motorcycles and have two Beemers. I'd have more if my wife would let me.

Robin
Jan 16th, 2007 10:35 pm
jayjacobson
Quote:
Originally Posted by messenger13
Straight from Guinness.com:

GUINNESS® Draught is best served at 6°C (that’s 42.8°F), with the legendary two-part pour. First, tilt the glass to 45 degrees and carefully pour until three quarters full. Then place the glass on the bar counter and leave to settle. Once the surge has settled, fill the glass to the brim. It takes about 119.5 seconds to pour the perfect pint. But don’t fret. It’s worth the wait.


That's still too cold for a true Guinness man. But it sure beats 38°!
Yes, I am aware of the company info at Guinness.com. I disagree! 38 or less is the perfect temperature (for a true American Guinness man). BTW, it doesn't make any difference which Guinness products you are consuming, the colder the better.

As far as the two part pour: I have no opinion on that.
Jan 16th, 2007 10:22 pm
messenger13
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayjacobson
In spite of the confusion created by some site members, a Guinness is always served ice cold (never under any circumstances over 38 degrees F.) My Guinness is always so cold that there is ice in it.
Straight from Guinness.com:

GUINNESS® Draught is best served at 6°C (that’s 42.8°F), with the legendary two-part pour. First, tilt the glass to 45 degrees and carefully pour until three quarters full. Then place the glass on the bar counter and leave to settle. Once the surge has settled, fill the glass to the brim. It takes about 119.5 seconds to pour the perfect pint. But don’t fret. It’s worth the wait.


That's still too cold for a true Guinness man. But it sure beats 38°!
Jan 16th, 2007 10:08 pm
jayjacobson
Quote:
Originally Posted by LTOehler
As the weather has turned to crap here I feel not only is this the time but the place to try and gain some insight. I have been lurking here for a bit, or should say enjoying the hell out of the site, so today I signed on and made my donation (a true bargain for the amount on info). A from the heart big Thanks to all!!! But not surprising to me first my question is about beer

From what I have seen on this site I feel this is the place to gain the needed information to clear up a couple of different points of view. The subject of course is Guinness Stout, and issue is what makes a great stout taste so good. I have been fortunate enough to have found 3 different pubs in the last couple of weeks that have fantastic Guinness. In each glass you could write your name in the head and it would be there to the end. Each was built in a slow pour way with time to settle in between. However each bar tender in each place told me their Guinness was the best because,

1. The keg is all ways fresh
2. The tap needs to clean and they have the cleanest
3. The temperature needs to be cold

I had to make sure that there was truth to what each bar tender was claiming so I did my part and made sure to have more than one. So my question to the Guinness fans is what if any truth to claims is there?
Greetings Dave! Welcome to our little web site and thank you for your support with keeping the lights on.

You asked a very wise question. A review of the site will reveal that BMW owners spend a lot of time customizing their machines. Considering that a man could literally spend hundreds of hours in his garage, it's only logical to wonder what does he eat and drink while doing so?

I'll let others deal with the eating part, I'll address the important issue: what does he drink? A Guinness is logical choice and I can think of none finer!

In spite of the confusion created by some site members, a Guinness is always served ice cold (never under any circumstances over 38 degrees F.) My Guinness is always so cold that there is ice in it.

Now, the thinking man might ask: what if I live in a very cold climate and I'm out in the garage doing the usual winter projects to my bike during the non-riding season? Is it too cold to enjoy an ice cold Guinness? Absolutely not! Heat the garage up! Heat the garage up to whatever temperature is comfortable for you to enjoy an ice cold Guinness. For me, that's about 70 degrees F. The amount that you will spend to heat your garage up to 70 degrees is a very small sacrifice to enjoy a drink of this caliber.

BTW, the finest establishments will serve Guinness from a keg. The contents will always be same day fresh. The tap will be changed for a clean one each day and the keg will always be ice cold.

Your first question being about Guinness shows that you are a deep thinker of considerable taste and character. A logical BMW rider.

Happy riding and drinking (just not at the same time)!
Jan 16th, 2007 9:13 pm
messenger13 NOT "STOUT"! Oh NO, NO, NO!



YES, YES, YES!!!
Jan 16th, 2007 8:18 pm
LTOehler
Technical Help

Quote:
Originally Posted by messenger13
Ken, you're preachin' to the choir over here. I keep my Guinness in the garage all year round. Just sittin' on the floor.
As the weather has turned to crap here I feel not only is this the time but the place to try and gain some insight. I have been lurking here for a bit, or should say enjoying the hell out of the site, so today I signed on and made my donation (a true bargain for the amount on info). A from the heart big Thanks to all!!! But not surprising to me first my question is about beer

From what I have seen on this site I feel this is the place to gain the needed information to clear up a couple of different points of view. The subject of course is Guinness Stout, and issue is what makes a great stout taste so good. I have been fortunate enough to have found 3 different pubs in the last couple of weeks that have fantastic Guinness. In each glass you could write your name in the head and it would be there to the end. Each was built in a slow pour way with time to settle in between. However each bar tender in each place told me their Guinness was the best because,

1. The keg is all ways fresh
2. The tap needs to clean and they have the cleanest
3. The temperature needs to be cold

I had to make sure that there was truth to what each bar tender was claiming so I did my part and made sure to have more than one. So my question to the Guinness fans is what if any truth to claims is there?
Jan 15th, 2007 4:01 pm
fas
well, he is German.....

Quote:
Originally Posted by deputy5211
Rob, you're gonna burn for those pix.

All this beer talk reminded me of that beer and pretzel shot I had in the file....

The best thing about racing and working in Germany is the beer.............and the cars...........not to mention riding on 2 wheels........and a lot of great folks.

Shot of Herbert Schnitzer's garage one of my favs.
Jan 15th, 2007 3:48 pm
deputy5211
A.d.d., A.d.h.d., O.c.d., P.t.s.d., S.o.b., P.i.t.a.

Joe, I see you're finally showing off those credentials you worked so hard for.
Jan 15th, 2007 3:48 pm
jayjacobson
Quote:
Originally Posted by messenger13
But you still can't have my Guinness!
Yes, It's WARM!
Jan 15th, 2007 3:46 pm
deputy5211 Rob, you're gonna burn for those pix.
Jan 15th, 2007 3:42 pm
messenger13
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayjacobson
I love you mmaaaannnnnnnn!
But you still can't have my Guinness!
Jan 15th, 2007 3:35 pm
jayjacobson
Quote:
Originally Posted by messenger13
Don't worry Jay, I don't hate ya. Hate takes too much effort.
I love you mmaaaannnnnnnn!
Jan 15th, 2007 2:40 pm
fas
winter blues

Quote:
Originally Posted by lsdpoet
Looks like the honeymoon is over here in the Northeast...after several months of above average temperature and not a lot of rain, the weather is catching up to us. Next few days are calling for clouds and rain..then temps falling into the teens and low 20's for a while. I don't mind riding in the 30's and above, but once it dips below freezing and the ice starts to accumulate on the roads, it's pretty much over for me.
Oh well, guess it had to become winter at some point in time...Still, it's a depressing thought....
Larry,

I fight the winter blues with the health club. Don't let Joe and his beer dreams add inches to your waist. Joe is the master of thread-hi-jacking. At least he does good posts with excellent photos!
Jan 15th, 2007 1:46 pm
messenger13
Quote:
Originally Posted by lsdpoet
To tell you the truth, I don't remember what the heck I was writing about
My work is done here...
Jan 15th, 2007 1:37 pm
lsdpoet
Quote:
Originally Posted by zippy_gg
Somebody mentioned the word Guinness, and it was all over.
So, how was your ride anyway?
To tell you the truth, I don't remember what the heck I was writing about
Jan 15th, 2007 12:48 pm
zippy_gg
Quote:
Originally Posted by lsdpoet
I'm confused.....How did my post become a beer commercial??????
Somebody mentioned the word Guinness, and it was all over.
So, how was your ride anyway?
Jan 15th, 2007 10:55 am
messenger13
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayjacobson
Yup, big Tombstone fan!

Hate? A little strong maybe....but, since I don't even like myself either....what the hell!
Don't worry Jay, I don't hate ya. Hate takes too much effort.
Jan 15th, 2007 6:10 am
jayjacobson
Quote:
Originally Posted by messenger13
messenger13: What do you think, Meese? Should I hate him?
Meese: You don't even know him.
messenger13: Yes, but there's just something about him. Something around the eyes, I don't know, reminds me of... me. No. I'm sure of it, I hate him.




(If you're not a 'Tombstone' fan, just move on...)
Yup, big Tombstone fan!

Hate? A little strong maybe....but, since I don't even like myself either....what the hell!
Jan 15th, 2007 1:11 am
messenger13
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayjacobson
One again, Joe, you being "right" doesn't make you a bad person!
messenger13: What do you think, Meese? Should I hate him?
Meese: You don't even know him.
messenger13: Yes, but there's just something about him. Something around the eyes, I don't know, reminds me of... me. No. I'm sure of it, I hate him.




(If you're not a 'Tombstone' fan, just move on...)
Jan 15th, 2007 1:10 am
jayjacobson
Quote:
Originally Posted by meese
I forgot, Jay, you're from SoCal, where 50-60 F is cold.
Hey Ken, speaking of KA pussies: it was 5 degrees F when I got home to Lancaster this morning. It was 30 degrees F at the end of my shift in Sylmar last night!

I kept tapping my thermometer as it kept going lower and lower. I'm really hoping to get some of this global warming over here in a hurry--please!
Jan 15th, 2007 1:01 am
jayjacobson MY Guinness (operative word "MY") is kept between 45° and 55°....

One again, Joe, you being "right" doesn't make you a bad person!
Jan 15th, 2007 1:00 am
jayjacobson
Quote:
Originally Posted by lsdpoet
I'm confused.....How did my post become a beer commercial??????
Well everything was fine until Ken said that Guinness is never supposed to be ice cold! Can you believe that?! It was straight downhill from there!
Jan 15th, 2007 12:58 am
jayjacobson
Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWphreak
Really? Well don't tell the Irish because over there they sell Guiness extra cold in the pubs. The difference between it and "regular" Guiness? Well, it's colder! Of course maybe that is all BS for the tourists...


"Pioneered in 1998, our smoother, colder GUINNESS® Draught Extra Cold is the coolest thing on the bar. Experience the same powerful surge and settle that gives GUINNESS® Draught beer its uniqueness… in a crisper, colder form.

Using the same classic recipe as GUINNESS® Draught, GUINNESS® Draught Extra Cold passes through our Coldflow supercooler en route to the bar. The result is a GUINNESS® Draught that’s served 3°C cooler. With an initial malt and caramel flavour, cooler GUINNESS® Draught Extra Cold finishes with less bitterness than classic GUINNESS® Draught beer. Chilly, isn’t it?

3.5°C of Preparation
GUINNESS® Draught Extra Cold is best served at around 3.5°C (38.3°F) - that’s 2.5°C (4.5°F) or so colder than GUINNESS® Draught. Like its traditional sibling, it’s served with the legendary two-part pour. First, tilt the glass to 45 degrees and carefully pour until three quarters full. When settled, fill the glass to the brim."
Thank you, sir! What more needs to be said?!
Jan 14th, 2007 4:17 pm
lsdpoet Ken...I believe you're right....when the wind howls and the snow falls, man's thoughts turn to..........................BEER! ( 6 pack)
Jan 14th, 2007 4:13 pm
meese
Quote:
Originally Posted by lsdpoet
I'm confused.....How did my post become a beer commercial??????
I dunno, Larry. Maybe folks like talking about beer more than winging about the cold and ice. Or maybe it's Just Joe.
Jan 14th, 2007 4:11 pm
meese I forgot, Jay, you're from SoCal, where 50-60 F is cold.
Jan 14th, 2007 12:10 pm
messenger13
Quote:
Originally Posted by lsdpoet
I'm confused.....How did my post become a beer commercial??????
Umm...hello! It was a natural evolution! When it gets too icy and snowy to ride, there's only one thing left to do. FARKLIZE! And whilst farklizing, there's only two choices of beverage to consume. Coffee or Guinness.

So much to learn grasshopper. But that's OK. We're here for you.
Jan 14th, 2007 11:50 am
messenger13
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayjacobson
Guinness on the garage floor?! Not in the freezer, ice cold, where it belongs? That's Guinness abuse!
MY Guinness (operative word "MY") is kept between 45° and 55° in a nice cozy dark corner in my garage. When it gets too cold, quite simply, it does NOT taste as good...ahem...in my expert opinion.



And just as a reminder...


Jan 14th, 2007 11:37 am
lsdpoet I'm confused.....How did my post become a beer commercial??????
Jan 14th, 2007 9:44 am
BMWphreak
Quote:
Originally Posted by meese
I keep telling y'all that Guinness isn't supposed to be ice cold. Ever. Bloody Yanks.
Really? Well don't tell the Irish because over there they sell Guiness extra cold in the pubs. The difference between it and "regular" Guiness? Well, it's colder! Of course maybe that is all BS for the tourists...


"Pioneered in 1998, our smoother, colder GUINNESS® Draught Extra Cold is the coolest thing on the bar. Experience the same powerful surge and settle that gives GUINNESS® Draught beer its uniqueness… in a crisper, colder form.

Using the same classic recipe as GUINNESS® Draught, GUINNESS® Draught Extra Cold passes through our Coldflow supercooler en route to the bar. The result is a GUINNESS® Draught that’s served 3°C cooler. With an initial malt and caramel flavour, cooler GUINNESS® Draught Extra Cold finishes with less bitterness than classic GUINNESS® Draught beer. Chilly, isn’t it?

3.5°C of Preparation
GUINNESS® Draught Extra Cold is best served at around 3.5°C (38.3°F) - that’s 2.5°C (4.5°F) or so colder than GUINNESS® Draught. Like its traditional sibling, it’s served with the legendary two-part pour. First, tilt the glass to 45 degrees and carefully pour until three quarters full. When settled, fill the glass to the brim."
Jan 14th, 2007 6:30 am
Woolly
Quote:
Originally Posted by meese
I keep telling y'all that Guinness isn't supposed to be ice cold. Ever. Bloody Yanks.
you reckon . . .

clicky here http://www.guinness.com/gb_en/ads/cu...a_Cold/advert/

Jan 14th, 2007 6:17 am
jayjacobson
Quote:
Originally Posted by messenger13
Ken, you're preachin' to the choir over here. I keep my Guinness in the garage all year round. Just sittin' on the floor.
Guinness on the garage floor?! Not in the freezer, ice cold, where it belongs? That's Guinness abuse!
Jan 14th, 2007 5:47 am
messenger13 Ken, you're preachin' to the choir over here. I keep my Guinness in the garage all year round. Just sittin' on the floor.


Jan 14th, 2007 3:04 am
jayjacobson
Quote:
Originally Posted by meese
I keep telling y'all that Guinness isn't supposed to be ice cold. Ever. Bloody Yanks.
Yes, and that's why we had to dump some tea in the harbor--if you know what i mean!
Jan 14th, 2007 3:01 am
meese I keep telling y'all that Guinness isn't supposed to be ice cold. Ever. Bloody Yanks.
Jan 14th, 2007 1:56 am
jayjacobson
Quote:
Originally Posted by messenger13
I'll take it though...
Last night I worked in the garage until the wee hours without running the heater. Sweet! And a few times, I actually opened the door to listen/watch the rain. A man and his bike...a garage...and a Guinness. It almost doesn't get any better than that.
What brings it all together is that fridge sitting in the corner, with that Guinness inside. So cold that there's ice in the bottle! Yup Joe, it doesn't get any better than that!
Jan 13th, 2007 8:25 pm
Zotter Last night hit a low of -15f here. So, as I was shoveling the 8+ inches of snow outta the drive way, I started the LT in the garage. First try after sitting for about 3 weeks. Great machine.

Let 'er run at idle until she came up to temp (about 30 minutes), then while on the centerstand, put 'er in 1st for about 10 minutes to spin up the tranny and final drive. Spread some dead dino juice around a bit. Then back on the tender...
Jan 13th, 2007 10:17 am
messenger13 I'll take it though...
Last night I worked in the garage until the wee hours without running the heater. Sweet! And a few times, I actually opened the door to listen/watch the rain. A man and his bike...a garage...and a Guinness. It almost doesn't get any better than that.
Jan 13th, 2007 7:30 am
lsdpoet
It's Been A Nice Ride

Looks like the honeymoon is over here in the Northeast...after several months of above average temperature and not a lot of rain, the weather is catching up to us. Next few days are calling for clouds and rain..then temps falling into the teens and low 20's for a while. I don't mind riding in the 30's and above, but once it dips below freezing and the ice starts to accumulate on the roads, it's pretty much over for me.
Oh well, guess it had to become winter at some point in time...Still, it's a depressing thought....

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