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Jan 30th, 2007 9:34 pm
KeithTxDallas
Ok Techno Tony

Tony,

This probably makes since to you. Since we have the 8700C I understand we will have to wait until this 4.2 version is available to us. Once it is, I am sure you can figure out what ehaughn is telling us so we can solve this auto answer problem with the BB. If I keep studying this stuff, I might actually get dangerous with all this electronic stuff. Right now, I am still not even close to being dangerous.

Please keep me posted. I am still working on procuring a Razor so I can play switch the SIM aroo.

Thanks, Keith

Quote:
Originally Posted by ehaughn
All,

Been playing with the RIM 4.2 code. I came up with a work around for the auto-answer.

I spliced together 2, 2.5mm cables and in the middle installed a momentary/grounding button. The button connects the microphone (tip on jack) to ground (sleeve on jack) when pressed. It can be used for 2 different scenarios.

1. Allows you to answer a call by simply pressing the button. It also allows you to hangup the call by pressing the button again.

2. It you want to initate a call, hold down the button for 3 to 4 seconds, and it will prompt you to speak a name or number.

Today this works on the RIM 8800 and 7100 since it come with version 4.2. But, once it is launched it will also work on the 8700 device.

I have tested out both scenarios with the BMW intercomm using the J&M headset and it works perfectly.

Hope this makes sense.

Jan 30th, 2007 9:04 pm
ehaughn
Blackberry Update - Auto-Answer Work Around

All,

Been playing with the RIM 4.2 code. I came up with a work around for the auto-answer.

I spliced together 2, 2.5mm cables and in the middle installed a momentary/grounding button. The button connects the microphone (tip on jack) to ground (sleeve on jack) when pressed. It can be used for 2 different scenarios.

1. Allows you to answer a call by simply pressing the button. It also allows you to hangup the call by pressing the button again.

2. It you want to initate a call, hold down the button for 3 to 4 seconds, and it will prompt you to speak a name or number.

Today this works on the RIM 8800 and 7100 since it come with version 4.2. But, once it is launched it will also work on the 8700 device.

I have tested out both scenarios with the BMW intercomm using the J&M headset and it works perfectly.

Hope this makes sense.

Jan 30th, 2007 1:59 pm
deputy5211 It was too good to be true!

Thank you for checking, and for following up for us. Your efforts are appreciated.


Quote:
Originally Posted by ehaughn
All,

Looks like the 4.2 release works differently than expected. Auto-Answer only answers when the device is removed from the holster and the configuration is set to "Out of Holster", which makes no sense.

I expected auto-anwer to work by specifying a number of rings or answer immediately.

Jan 30th, 2007 1:48 pm
ehaughn
RIM 4.2 Auto-Answer Update

All,

Looks like the 4.2 release works differently than expected. Auto-Answer only answers when the device is removed from the holster and the configuration is set to "Out of Holster", which makes no sense.

I expected auto-anwer to work by specifying a number of rings or answer immediately.

Jan 27th, 2007 12:56 pm
KeithTxDallas
Update Request..... Please

Quote:
Originally Posted by ehaughn
I work for Cingular and have access to the beta code in the next week or two. Beta releases not available to general public, sorry. Expect final code in the June timeframe.
Like Tony, I have the 8700C on Cingular (Now AT&T). Requesting updates as this Auto Answer feature is released.

Thanks,
Keith
Jan 26th, 2007 6:22 pm
ehaughn Not sure when NexTel will have the new code. RIM usually keeps the same features accross wireless carriers. Probably best to ask RIM directly.
Jan 26th, 2007 9:07 am
GBaker My Blackberry is a 7100i with Nextel. Do you know if it will support the new auto answer feature?

The HF820 I ordered has not yet arrived.
Jan 26th, 2007 7:35 am
ehaughn I work for Cingular and have access to the beta code in the next week or two. Beta releases not available to general public, sorry. Expect final code in the June timeframe.
Jan 25th, 2007 9:00 pm
deputy5211
Quote:
Originally Posted by ehaughn
Looks like you are in luck.

RIM, the makers of Blackberry will be releasing new device code, version 4.2 which will support auto-answer. I have seen the RIM 8800, which has a beta version of 4.2 and supports auto-answer.

Expect to see this new release in the June timeframe.

Which RIM device are you using, and what wireless carrier are you with?

Running 8700c on Cingular. Any idea if a beta is available to me?
Jan 25th, 2007 8:54 pm
ehaughn
Blackberry Update

Looks like you are in luck.

RIM, the makers of Blackberry will be releasing new device code, version 4.2 which will support auto-answer. I have seen the RIM 8800, which has a beta version of 4.2 and supports auto-answer.

Expect to see this new release in the June timeframe.

Which RIM device are you using, and what wireless carrier are you with?

Jan 22nd, 2007 8:50 am
GBaker
Quote:
Originally Posted by deputy5211
Or, you could have bought the HF820 or the HF800 on eBay for about HALF of that, and had it just about as fast.

Since you're going to plug the HF8xx into the cell phone port, why not just BT the BB to the HF and leave it at that? You can hit the button on the HF8xx to answer the phone. I imagine the NAV III is already attached to your comms. If so, why not keep it simple and straight-forward.

To get this thread back on track -- this thread was started as a search for ways to have the BlackBerry auto-answer an incoming call. The current models simply cannot do this. Perhaps a future revision will offer this feature. Until then, you're either going to have to press a button to answer a call, or use a different phone.

Perhaps it may be more beneficial to future users searching for information if a new thread was started on the topic of BlueTooth connections. Just my $0.02.
Thanks Tony, I felt better re using a known to me source vs EBAY.

I may wind up with it as you have laid out. But I am trying to use the NAV III touch screen to answer, dial, and hang up if possible. The NAV III also picks up the BB address book and shows who is calling on the screen.

After I get it and experiment I will post under a new thread and may include some quoted posts from here as well. My apologies if it seems this thread was 'hijacked'. That was not the intention. All re the BB seemed to me to be related.


Gene
Jan 21st, 2007 9:58 pm
deputy5211
Quote:
Originally Posted by GBaker
Just an update here so you all will not think I have forgotten to share my results.

I ordered a HF-820 from Radio Shack (trying to support the local stores..). They said it would be in two Fridays ago. Yesterday they told me next Friday. I cancelled the order and went on Line to: http://www.academicsuperstore.com/ma...?PartNo=743094

Saved $20.00 and hope to have it by Friday..
Or, you could have bought the HF820 or the HF800 on eBay for about HALF of that, and had it just about as fast.

Since you're going to plug the HF8xx into the cell phone port, why not just BT the BB to the HF and leave it at that? You can hit the button on the HF8xx to answer the phone. I imagine the NAV III is already attached to your comms. If so, why not keep it simple and straight-forward.

To get this thread back on track -- this thread was started as a search for ways to have the BlackBerry auto-answer an incoming call. The current models simply cannot do this. Perhaps a future revision will offer this feature. Until then, you're either going to have to press a button to answer a call, or use a different phone.

Perhaps it may be more beneficial to future users searching for information if a new thread was started on the topic of BlueTooth connections. Just my $0.02.
Jan 21st, 2007 9:10 am
GBaker Just an update here so you all will not think I have forgotten to share my results.

I ordered a HF-820 from Radio Shack (trying to support the local stores..). They said it would be in two Fridays ago. Yesterday they told me next Friday. I cancelled the order and went on Line to: http://www.academicsuperstore.com/ma...?PartNo=743094

Saved $20.00 and hope to have it by Friday..
Jan 8th, 2007 3:20 pm
ehaughn Gene,

FYI. I tried this configuration. If you connect bluetooth to the 2820, then all audio from the 2820 will get sent to the HF8xx and not thru your intercomm system. It may partially work thru the cell port, but I think it is mono and stereo. Also, I think the audio is choppy. Blueooth to the 2820 will allow for dialing and answering from the 2820.
Jan 8th, 2007 11:05 am
GBaker Decided to bite the bullet and have ordered the Motorola HF-820. The plan is to bluetooth my BlackBerry to the NAV III, then bluetooth the NAVIII to the 820 and plug the 820 into the cell phone jack on the VOICE COMM II. Perhaps then I can use the NAV III to answer and make calls.

It is not a total loss if it does not work as I can use the 820 in my work truck. It is suppose to be here by the week end. I will report the outcome.

Gene
Jan 4th, 2007 7:25 pm
GBaker
Quote:
Originally Posted by deputy5211
Auto Answer is what you missed. I know you can press the button on either the BB or the HF800/820, but hard to do with gloves on, and don't want to take eyes off road.

Non-issue anyway. I just move my SIM into a RAZR while riding. When I get to wherever, just put SIM back into BB and messages start flowing. The RAZR can be set for auto answer.
Hot Dang. Where there is a will there is a way. Very smart thinking. Thanks
Jan 4th, 2007 7:08 pm
deputy5211
Auto Answer

Auto Answer is what you missed. I know you can press the button on either the BB or the HF800/820, but hard to do with gloves on, and don't want to take eyes off road.

Non-issue anyway. I just move my SIM into a RAZR while riding. When I get to wherever, just put SIM back into BB and messages start flowing. The RAZR can be set for auto answer.
Jan 4th, 2007 1:57 pm
ehaughn I believe the HF800 supports bluetooth. I may be missing something here. Can you use bluetooth from the BB to the HF800. Use a 2.5mm cable from the HF800 to the comm system. When to answer the call, just press the HF800 button to answer.
Jan 2nd, 2007 5:44 pm
deputy5211
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canabarry
My solution to the Blackberry answering problem is to attach it to the top of the Oddments cover with an elastic band and with the cable running through the rubber seal. When someone calls, I hear the ring in the helmet earphones and just have to press the sidewheel on the BB in order to answer. This is possible with gloves.

Not as nice as autoanswer but it works.
. . . Unless it is raining, right?
Jan 2nd, 2007 5:19 pm
Canabarry My solution to the Blackberry answering problem is to attach it to the top of the Oddments cover with an elastic band and with the cable running through the rubber seal. When someone calls, I hear the ring in the helmet earphones and just have to press the sidewheel on the BB in order to answer. This is possible with gloves.

Not as nice as autoanswer but it works.
Dec 24th, 2006 10:07 pm
deputy5211 And a noble mission it is, indeed.

Enjoy your trip -- Fair winds and following seas.

Merry Christmas!
Dec 24th, 2006 9:40 pm
GBaker Thanks Tony. Now you have me on a mission. We will be gone all next week. But when we get back I will be on it.

Merry Christmas!
Dec 23rd, 2006 9:55 pm
deputy5211 It is not that you have to re-holster the BB as much as it is that the auto-answer option on the BB only sets whether a ringing BB will be answered by simply removing it from the holster or whether you want to require the answer key to be pressed to answer.

As for the HF800 and your VC-II, do you know why "it will not work," or are you just relying on what they told you? If the VC-II has a patch cable that can plug into your telephone's external headset jack, then I imagine the HF800 would work. The stock telephone patch cable that came with my Autcom system was all I needed.

Autocom told me the HF800 would not work with their intercoms, and that I had to buy their (expensive) bluetooth solution. In real life, the HF800 works fine. The Autocom intercom apparently does not even realize it is plugged into the HF800 and not into the phone itself.

If you know someone nearby with an HF800, you might test it with your setup, if you feel comfortable with the idea, before investing a chunk of change in a J&M and/or BMW interface.

If it works for you, I'm sure you'll find other goodies on which to spend the money you saved.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GBaker
That makes sense as I was not aware of having to re holster the BB. i was hopeful re the Motorola HF800 but as I understand it will not work with the VC II.....

J&M told me they have a bluetooth solution for BMW but are awaiting BMW to accept it.
Dec 23rd, 2006 9:42 pm
GBaker That makes sense as I was not aware of having to re holster the BB. i was hopeful re the Motorola HF800 but as I understand it will not work with the VC II.....

J&M told me they have a bluetooth solution for BMW but are awaiting BMW to accept it.
Dec 23rd, 2006 2:31 pm
deputy5211 Leaving it out of the holster is not the problem. The problem is that the BB does not have an auto-answer, other than the option to set the phone to auto-answer when it is removed from the holster while ringing.

This is not real auto-answer, as once the phone is out of the holster, it will not auto-answer any subsequent calls (unless re-holstered and removed while actually ringing).

I have Autocom Pro-AVI intercom unit. I connect the BB either through the patch cord which I plug into the BB's external headset jack, or via BT using a Motorola HF800 with the patch cord plugged into its external headset jack (refer to thread referenced in my original post in this thread for details).

Quote:
Originally Posted by GBaker
I am having the same issues re my BB 7100i which seems further complicated because my '06 has the VOICE COMM II. So I am very interested in a solution(s). I have an email into a dealer that seems pretty much up on this now, so we will see if I get an answer.

Re the auto answer why not just leave it out of the holster? In your pocket or the little storage area at the comm system.

One question, do you connect the BB to the comm with the cable or to the Nav III and also have the cell and gps hooked via bluetooth?

Thanks,
Dec 23rd, 2006 2:21 pm
GBaker
Quote:
Originally Posted by deputy5211
In another thread (Razr owners: Inexpensive bluetooth into intercom fix), we are having a discussion about using BlackBerry device with the Motorola HF800 patched into an intercom system (Autocom).

Works fine, but no way to hear BlackBerry ring through the intercom, and the BlackBerry does not have an auto-answer feature except for removing from holster. Same problem if just plugging the intercom patch cord into the BlackBerry external headset port.

Has anyone found a work-around, patch, or hack for the ringing or auto-answer issues?
I am having the same issues re my BB 7100i which seems further complicated because my '06 has the VOICE COMM II. So I am very interested in a solution(s). I have an email into a dealer that seems pretty much up on this now, so we will see if I get an answer.

Re the auto answer why not just leave it out of the holster? In your pocket or the little storage area at the comm system.

One question, do you connect the BB to the comm with the cable or to the Nav III and also have the cell and gps hooked via bluetooth?

Thanks,
Dec 23rd, 2006 1:31 pm
deputy5211
Blackberry and Auto-Answer, anyone?

In another thread (Razr owners: Inexpensive bluetooth into intercom fix), we are having a discussion about using BlackBerry device with the Motorola HF800 patched into an intercom system (Autocom).

Works fine, but no way to hear BlackBerry ring through the intercom, and the BlackBerry does not have an auto-answer feature except for removing from holster. Same problem if just plugging the intercom patch cord into the BlackBerry external headset port.

Has anyone found a work-around, patch, or hack for the ringing or auto-answer issues?

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