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Nov 9th, 2014 11:06 am | |
GaryEm |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video I thought I would say I was one those guys that sent my final drive Daves way he went thorugh it the final did have a leaking seal on it so I figured I might as well have it gone thorough just one those maintenance things But now I am good to go for a nother 100,000 miles for the final drive anyway ![]() |
Nov 9th, 2014 7:24 am | |
saddleman |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by stevea2980
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Thanks and I guess I would have to find a video on that gear change.
2.91 still is a big change from stock. Next time your in the mountains take a video and I will make some more popcorn! LOL I guess the final question is are you happy with the 2.91's? Thanks Again Later Steve |
Nov 8th, 2014 10:28 pm | |
stevea2980 |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by saddleman
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I think the 3.20 gears might just as weak as the 3.36 gears. I have a 2.91 gear ratio in it right now & those gears are the same size as the LT gears. My different final drive gear ratios that I have are complete & I just put them in a box still filled with gear oil until I'm ready to use them again. It's less than 30 minutes to swap them out.
2.91 still is a big change from stock. Next time your in the mountains take a video and I will make some more popcorn! LOL I guess the final question is are you happy with the 2.91's? Thanks Again Later Steve |
Nov 8th, 2014 6:33 pm | |
saddleman |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by stevea2980
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Thanks Saddleman:
It sounds like you change out your rear drive depending on trip specifics? Personally I am not set up in my garage to get into those kind of "Spontaneous" changes. If I make a change it will be permanent. Weaker gears doesn't sound too good considering how we all have to worry about rear drive failures anyway. I am in Seattle and limped home from Norcal with a impending drive failure. I was very lucky. 1- I made it home, 2- I was out of warranty but Ridewest covered it anyway!!!. The 3.20 gears might be the way to go me thinks! Thanks again for your help :-) Later Steve A |
Nov 8th, 2014 4:48 pm | |
stevea2980 |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by saddleman
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The 3.36 gears are for a R850R and the length of each tooth is shorter and weaker than the LT gears.
I have been to 115 mph on the gps in 5th gear and it wasn't at red line yet. The ring & pinion gear set cost $660 from BMW Germany. I will keep this final drive on the self unless I'm riding in the mountains. I think a 3.20 gear from a R850RT would be better because I was shifting to often with the 3.36 gear. It sounds like you change out your rear drive depending on trip specifics? Personally I am not set up in my garage to get into those kind of "Spontaneous" changes. If I make a change it will be permanent. Weaker gears doesn't sound too good considering how we all have to worry about rear drive failures anyway. I am in Seattle and limped home from Norcal with a impending drive failure. I was very lucky. 1- I made it home, 2- I was out of warranty but Ridewest covered it anyway!!!. The 3.20 gears might be the way to go me thinks! Thanks again for your help :-) Later Steve A |
Nov 8th, 2014 4:30 pm | |
saddleman |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by stevea2980
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Hey Saddleman:
I have been riding my 99 LT like that for 13+ years. Not all the time though but when I do the temps do get almost to the caution area. Note that I have the Chip / Exhaust mod. Actually the noise is starting to get to me but I am a lot older now LOL. The ratio change looks interesting. Can you provide more details like, 1- Are the gears more reliable (You know what I mean!) 2- What is your top speed now, On long trips out west I cruise at 90 all the time and I think that is about at 5000 rpm but will have to go check that out again, What is your rpm @90 :-) 3- How much did you spend on parts and where were they purchased. 4- Any other special items of interest we should know about this change? Also after riding on the 3.36 for a while would you consider a different ratio somewhere between the stock and 3.36? Thanks Steve A I have been to 115 mph on the gps in 5th gear and it wasn't at red line yet. The ring & pinion gear set cost $660 from BMW Germany. I will keep this final drive on the self unless I'm riding in the mountains. I think a 3.20 gear from a R850RT would be better because I was shifting to often with the 3.36 gear. |
Nov 8th, 2014 3:12 pm | |
stevea2980 |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by saddleman
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BMW K1200LT w/3.36 final drive - mountain ride - YouTube Look at the temp gauge it was in the 50's F and I couldn't ride like this in the heat of the summer. I'll need to get more air through the radiators. The video always looks slow so the dash cam gives you an idea of the speed.
Hey Saddleman: I have been riding my 99 LT like that for 13+ years. Not all the time though but when I do the temps do get almost to the caution area. Note that I have the Chip / Exhaust mod. Actually the noise is starting to get to me but I am a lot older now LOL. The ratio change looks interesting. Can you provide more details like, 1- Are the gears more reliable (You know what I mean!) 2- What is your top speed now, On long trips out west I cruise at 90 all the time and I think that is about at 5000 rpm but will have to go check that out again, What is your rpm @90 :-) 3- How much did you spend on parts and where were they purchased. 4- Any other special items of interest we should know about this change? Also after riding on the 3.36 for a while would you consider a different ratio somewhere between the stock and 3.36? Thanks Steve A |
Nov 8th, 2014 8:21 am | |
Fun Bobby |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by smahon
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And why not? At this RPM level, the LT will make Fun Bobby much more fun, esp when riding with Harleys!
Rob, 2000LT Navarre, FL |
Nov 7th, 2014 8:51 pm | |
dshealey |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by jzeiler
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David it was just a shutter effect on the GoPro that made the Clearwater Lights "look" like they were flashing. The eye cannot see that.
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Nov 7th, 2014 8:39 pm | |
jzeiler |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video David it was just a shutter effect on the GoPro that made the Clearwater Lights "look" like they were flashing. The eye cannot see that. |
Nov 7th, 2014 5:47 pm | |
saddleman |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video The only time you can see the flashing lights is in a video. To the naked eye the LED's don't flash. |
Nov 7th, 2014 5:29 pm | |
dshealey |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff8stuff
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Federal law allows for "modulating" white lights on the front of motorcycles for safety. Some companies have pushed this a bit with the flashing LEDs. I have some that were marketed as "modulating", but they definitely flash, so I haven't mounted them. I want to hear from a Judge that they would be allowed first.---------------------------.
Those flashing lights on your friend's bike are absolutely illegal, and could net him a big ticket! Here is the section of the federal regulations regarding motorcycle headlight modulation: ---------------------------------- S7.9.4 Motorcycle headlamp modulation system. S7.9.4.1 A headlamp on a motorcycle may be wired to modulate either the upper beam or the lower beam from its maximum intensity to a lesser intensity, provided that: (a) The rate of modulation shall be 240 <plus-minus> 40 cycles per minute. (b) The headlamp shall be operated at maximum power for 50 to 70 percent of each cycle. (c) The lowest intensity at any test point shall be not less than 17 percent of the maximum intensity measured at the same point. (d) The modulator switch shall be wired in the power lead of the beam filament being modulated and not in the ground side of the circuit. (e) Means shall be provided so that both the lower beam and upper beam remain operable in the event of a modulator failure. (f) The system shall include a sensor mounted with the axis of its sensing element perpendicular to a horizontal plane. Headlamp modulation shall cease whenever the level of light emitted by a tungsten filament light operating at 3000 deg. Kelvin is either less than 270 lux (25 foot-candles) of direct light for upward pointing sensors or less than 60 lux (5.6 foot-candles) of reflected light for downward pointing sensors. The light is measured by a silicon cell type light meter that is located at the sensor and pointing in the same direction as the sensor. A Kodak Gray Card (Kodak R-27) is placed at ground level to simulate the road surface in testing downward pointing sensors. (g) When tested in accordance with the test profile shown in Figure 9, the voltage drop across the modulator when the lamp is on at all test conditions for 12 volt systems and 6 volt systems shall not be greater than .45 volt. The modulator shall meet all the provisions of the standard after completion of the test profile shown in Figure 9. (h) Means shall be provided so that both the lower and upper beam function at design voltage when the headlamp control switch is in either the lower or upper beam position when the modulator is off. S7.9.4.2(a) Each motorcycle headlamp modulator not intended as original equipment, or its container, shall be labeled with the maximum wattage, and the minimum wattage appropriate for its use. Additionally, each such modulator shall comply with S7.9.4.1 (a) through (g) when connected to a headlamp of the maximum rated power and a headlamp of the minimum rated power, and shall provide means so that the modulated beam functions at design voltage when the modulator is off. (b) Instructions, with a diagram, shall be provided for mounting the light sensor including location on the motorcycle, distance above the road surface, and orientation with respect to the light. |
Nov 7th, 2014 3:55 pm | |
smahon |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video And why not? At this RPM level, the LT will make Fun Bobby much more fun, esp when riding with Harleys! |
Nov 7th, 2014 2:53 pm | |
saddleman |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by Fun Bobby
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Saddleman, one of my Harley riding partners was watching your video and asked if your exhaust was stock? He said my LT didn't sound like yours. I also don't turn 7000 on the RPMs either.
Rob, 2000LT Navarre, FL |
Nov 7th, 2014 2:47 pm | |
saddleman |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by deanwoolsey
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Nicely done Dave. Perhaps a switch and an isolator diode for the fans would help with the air issue. I bet your tires never get changed because of being thin in the middle, huh?
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Nov 7th, 2014 10:06 am | |
Fun Bobby |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Saddleman, one of my Harley riding partners was watching your video and asked if your exhaust was stock? He said my LT didn't sound like yours. I also don't turn 7000 on the RPMs either. Rob, 2000LT Navarre, FL |
Nov 2nd, 2014 6:49 pm | |
deanwoolsey |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Nicely done Dave. Perhaps a switch and an isolator diode for the fans would help with the air issue. I bet your tires never get changed because of being thin in the middle, huh? |
Nov 2nd, 2014 5:43 pm | |
2006lt |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by Axle
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Wow! Iv'e had my bike for 12 years it hasn't been over 4k rpm in all that time, nice job
You had better get some cleaner to remove the carbon on the valves and pistons. later..Randy |
Nov 2nd, 2014 5:39 pm | |
Voyager |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by Axle
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Wow! Iv'e had my bike for 12 years it hasn't been over 4k rpm in all that time, nice job
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Nov 2nd, 2014 5:07 pm | |
Axle |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Wow! Iv'e had my bike for 12 years it hasn't been over 4k rpm in all that time, nice job |
Nov 2nd, 2014 7:58 am | |
saddleman |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlieVT
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Neat!
Thanks for posting. ![]() Is that a K1600GT(L) with the flashers trying to keep up with you? |
Nov 2nd, 2014 7:51 am | |
saddleman |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by rowie
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That looks pretty quick, particularly from 60-80mph acceleration. Seems to me that a milder ratio might be a nice compromise.
Now your friend's flashing front lights might get him in a bit if trouble - I initially thought it was a LEO that you were running from.... |
Nov 2nd, 2014 6:23 am | |
CharlieVT |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Neat! Thanks for posting. ![]() Is that a K1600GT(L) with the flashers trying to keep up with you? |
Nov 1st, 2014 9:21 pm | |
gunny |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Nice! I ride like that sometimes. |
Nov 1st, 2014 9:09 pm | |
Buff8stuff |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video Quote:
Originally Posted by rowie
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That looks pretty quick, particularly from 60-80mph acceleration. Seems to me that a milder ratio might be a nice compromise.
Now your friend's flashing front lights might get him in a bit if trouble - I initially thought it was a LEO that you were running from.... Great video Dave! Keep the info on the gear ratio changes coming. I'm seriously interested. I was planning on sending a FD your way to have you make sure it's right, then change it out and send the other just to have as a spare just in case. Now I'm thinking I might want to get two different gear ratios, one for city and fun riding the other for LD trips. |
Nov 1st, 2014 8:32 pm | |
rowie |
Re: 3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video That looks pretty quick, particularly from 60-80mph acceleration. Seems to me that a milder ratio might be a nice compromise. Now your friend's flashing front lights might get him in a bit if trouble - I initially thought it was a LEO that you were running from.... |
Nov 1st, 2014 7:45 pm | |
saddleman |
3.36 Final Drive Gear w/Video BMW K1200LT w/3.36 final drive - mountain ride - YouTube Look at the temp gauge it was in the 50's F and I couldn't ride like this in the heat of the summer. I'll need to get more air through the radiators. The video always looks slow so the dash cam gives you an idea of the speed. |
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