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post #1 of 9 Old Dec 31st, 2017, 11:46 am Thread Starter
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Just a quick introduction from me. I live in Windsor, UK. I purchased a 2002 K1200LT a few weeks ago. Brought it back from the dealers after px/ing a Tiger. Round trip off nearly 600 miles in Temps from 2 to 6 degrees. The journey back with the heated grips, seat, electric windscreen was much more enjoyable than the one down I can say.

Since then I've not been out because of the weather so I've used the time to strip her down a little and clean up some of the connections etc.

She had an autocom fitted with the passenger module which I've removed as I use Bluetooth through the helmet. Being in the UK we seem to be a bit short on accessory places though unless someone can point new in the right direction. I'm deciding on how to mount my phone which I use as my GPS. I've narrowed it down to either a shelf, but can't seem to get one here (any vids or ideas for home made ones?) or a ram mount off the clutch cylinder. I've got a H7 LED dip beam to fit and will eventually swap the other bulbs for led after finding out exactly what I need.

I went for the BMW as I have a bad back injury causing sciatica. I find it hard to move a bike about so I narrowed it down to the GL1500 and BMW because of the reverse gear. You get so much more baby for your buck with the BMW though so it wasn't a difficult decision... And I've just joined an advanced riding group to improve my skills. Wouldn't have done that on any other bike!

Happy riding all and stay safe.
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Welcome from Covina, CA... and, Hopeful New Year!

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Welcome ot the site! Try the Co-Pilot Shelf. It's easy to install and is at the right height for the GPS/Phone. However, it's not a bargain. Perhaps some of the other forum members have used other solutions.

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Welcome from Sugar Hill, GA USA.

Once you get the low beam LED in, your HB will be pretty much useless. The H3 HB on the LT is deeply recessed with a 2 piece fitting to get it to where it needs to be and nothing is a direct fit no matter what they say other than the OEM Halogen. Anything with a large heat sink or fan on the back is totally out of consideration due to the depth. Most of the H3 elements will not even fit through the reflector so I have a pile of useless H3 LED bulbs of different types I have tried. The standard wiring is not large enough to carry the current from a higher wattage bulb say 100W vs the 55W without melting the insulation from over heating the wire so don't go that route. HID is an option but the warm up time makes it a bad option for a HB.

You may be happy enough with the LED low beam by itself but the HB will require a specific type of bulb and some one way modifications to get an LED to work in that position.

This is the form factor bulb I made work. It has a pencil element small enough to fit through the reflector and a banded heat sink. Also iportant is the length of the aluminum part on the back of the bulb. This one is shorter than others that look similar and allows you to use the copper clip in fastening. The longer ones you can't do that.

In order to make it work, I had to cut down the back of the metal piece to allow the bulb to fit all the way up to the front, used aluminum duct tape to hold the two pieces together and then tie wrapped what stick out of the fixture to the copper clip to hold it in place. Works great but it is a one way mod as you have to shorten the metal piece which is absolutely necessary to have to hold the bulb in the proper position in the reflector.

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Thanks all for the help and the advice. Like the Co pilot shelf but the price...
The H3 you show is what I've got in h7. Just deciding whether to put all in the housing or drill a home behind the bulb in the cover and have the heat dissipators vibe through the hole.
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Thanks all for the help and the advice. Like the Co pilot shelf but the price...
The H3 you show is what I've got in h7. Just deciding whether to put all in the housing or drill a home behind the bulb in the cover and have the heat dissipators vibe through the hole.
It was a tight fit but I managed to get the back cover on after stuffing all the parts inside. I put together a composite picture with some notes on what I discovered attempting to retrofit the LT combined LB/HB headlight to a LED HB bulb.

A. is the total length minus the emitter rod that needs to fit in and to the top of the metal bulb holder. It is too short requiring the bulb holder to have just a little cut off at the red line to allow the bulb to fit all the way in and key into (E) to keep the bulb from rotating.

B. is the length of the metal portion of the heat sink and I found the form factor on the left to be too long. the bulb on the right has length (B) and was usable. Only way I currently have is a visual comparison to pictures, one with the channel cut and extending beyond and the other. Most bulbs do not give the dimensions but length (C) is important to not be too long if you want to have something to hold all this in the reflector.

F. is the diameter of the emitter rod. This is important because the HB hole in the reflector is square with notches for tabs (D) to fit into. Bulbs like the ones in the bottom right are far too large around to fit through the hole in the reflector and you DO NOT want to mess with the reflector itself or no bulb will ever fit properly.

Summary. Find a bulb like the one on the right. They seem to hit in lots of some quantity and then disappear never to be seen again but a similar usually brighter bulb in the same form factor will show up some time later.

Carefully cut 1/16 to 1/8 of an inch off the bottom of the metal part called the bulb socket and fit the LED bulb all the way in so the notch fits properly into tab (E). Use some strips of aluminum duct tape to secure the bulb and the socket together. Not too much as it still has to fit into the hole in the headlight. I used enough wraps to make it not wobble but still slide easily. Save the plastic piece that went on the end of the bulb socket should you ever want to go back to a standard bulb. Insert the bulb and socket assembly into the reflector aligning the tabs (D) properly into the reflector. If it works like mine did, the copper clip will fit loosely under the assembly where you can then secure it with a zip tie around the copper bands and it will be very solid. Hook up the wires and test. If you are lucky, all will fit under the cover with no holes but mine was very tight.

Good luck and I hope this illustration of what I learned on this effort helps you and any others looking to improve the poor LT lights. Just a note, there is no CAN bus on the LT so no worries about bus errors and lights not working properly.

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Thanks for such an in depth write up. The diagram dedicatory helps me understand what to do a lot easier than just reading. That's on my next to do list. 👍👍👍
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Welcome from Kennesaw GA!

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