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This is one way to add driving lights. I wanted the lights to be in line with the head light so there would be a wide look to the bike. I had the bracket under the mirrors but the mirrors always wanted to fall off. So I decided to glue them on with silicone sealant like that I didn't have to drill any holes. So this is what it looks like.


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This is one way to add driving lights. I wanted the lights to be in line with the head light so there would be a wide look to the bike. I had the bracket under the mirrors but the mirrors always wanted to fall off. So I decided to glue them on with silicone sealant like that I didn't have to drill any holes. So this is what it looks like.


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Gee, Don, they're hardly noticeable ;<))

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This is one way to add driving lights. I wanted the lights to be in line with the head light so there would be a wide look to the bike. I had the bracket under the mirrors but the mirrors always wanted to fall off. So I decided to glue them on with silicone sealant like that I didn't have to drill any holes. So this is what it looks like.


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Try again, er a nice attachment!

You should shim the mirrors. They need additional clearance.

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My observation with aux lights at the same level as the head light is based on a Harley guy behind me the other day. His bike looked more like a car that was further away. You could see the two aux lights but not the head light. Several cars pulled out in front of him causing him to change lanes. I don't think it is a good idea.

I prefer the triangle approach and it has worked well for me since '75. I also run one amber and one clear Moto Light. Odd combo but it makes people look. Just like the deer whistles - I haven't been hit yet!

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My observation with aux lights at the same level as the head light is based on a Harley guy behind me the other day. His bike looked more like a car that was further away. You could see the two aux lights but not the head light. Several cars pulled out in front of him causing him to change lanes. I don't think it is a good idea.

I prefer the triangle approach and it has worked well for me since '75. I also run one amber and one clear Moto Light. Odd combo but it makes people look. Just like the deer whistles - I haven't been hit yet!
Don't confuse this lighting issue with "Driving" lights, which are additional lights used in conjunction with high beam to give the rider MUCH better down road lighting when riding at night. You are speaking of the aux. lighting meant to make the motorcycle far more obvious to other drivers. These are two totally different lighting needs, and what works well for one may not be usefull for the other. If you ride at night a lot, you need BOTH!

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Gee, Don, they're hardly noticeable ;<))

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This is one way to add driving lights. I wanted the lights to be in line with the head light so there would be a wide look to the bike. I had the bracket under the mirrors but the mirrors always wanted to fall off. So I decided to glue them on with silicone sealant like that I didn't have to drill any holes. So this is what it looks like.


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Don't confuse this lighting issue with "Driving" lights, which are additional lights used in conjunction with high beam to give the rider MUCH better down road lighting when riding at night. You are speaking of the aux. lighting meant to make the motorcycle far more obvious to other drivers. These are two totally different lighting needs, and what works well for one may not be usefull for the other. If you ride at night a lot, you need BOTH!
David,

I am not confused and he did say he wanted the bike to look wider - not see better at night. I just shared my observations on how the Harley "looked" wide enough to be mistaken for a distant car rather than a closer bike. I agree more light at night is the key.

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David,

I am not confused and he did say he wanted the bike to look wider - not see better at night. I just shared my observations on how the Harley "looked" wide enough to be mistaken for a distant car rather than a closer bike. I agree more light at night is the key.
I guess the real confusing thing here is that the thread started with the term "Driving Lights" as part of the title. That term, to everyone I know, means lights to aid in seeing down road, WAY down road if they are to do much good.

Fog pattern lights are meant to light low, and close in. Other "Aux" lights for motorcyclists are for side lighting in turns, or the "conspicuity" factor, so that others see you.

Driving lights should be mounted high, everything else, whatever works.

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Gee David - you and I were the only one's that took his post seriously, everyone poked fun at his "posted???" picture.

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Don, no offense intended. I hope you took none. I was reading through the thread, noticed your first post with the missing attachment, read Tom's reply and it just struck me as funny. His reply was simple and understated.

We've all made little bloopers via email or online postings. My usual trick is to leave words out of sentences.

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Gee David - you and I were the only one's that took his post seriously, everyone poked fun at his "posted???" picture.
Look again, I took a stab at him , plus offered advice.
You should shim the mirrors. They need additional clearance.
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I know I said I put the lights under the mirrors to have a wider look to the bike but this doesn't mean that by doing that the driving lights change their function to clearance lights, they are still driving lights. One of the many things I didn't think of was the lights may obscure the turn signals but then the other half of the world didn't either. I also don't think I like putting my life in the hands of a non cancelling turn signal.

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[QUOTE=dshealey]Don't confuse this lighting issue with "Driving" lights, which are additional lights used in conjunction with high beam to give the rider MUCH better down road lighting when riding at night. QUOTE]

question: for night driving is it better to have fog lights (for wide view) or driving lights (for longer lighted road area) ?
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Don't confuse this lighting issue with "Driving" lights, which are additional lights used in conjunction with high beam to give the rider MUCH better down road lighting when riding at night. QUOTE]

question: for night driving is it better to have fog lights (for wide view) or driving lights (for longer lighted road area) ?
I had both on my LT, Hella Micro DE fog lights under the chin for close in and wide light pattern, helped a lot in residential and town riding. No help at all on the highway, so I had HID Driving lights under the mirrors which gave me great long distance throw down the highways at night. On my long distance rides at night the HID driving lights were a HUGE help, far more so than the fog lights. The fog lights were on all the time, so gave a triangular pattern to help what some call "conspicuity".

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