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Emblem LED hook up help

Hello,

I have the LED emblem lights that I want to instal on my 2011 R1200RT.

I want my LED emblem lights (amber) to be on all the time.
So, I guess I am to hook up to the existing running light wiring.
Can someone that has done this, just give me some basics.

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Re: Emblem LED hook up help

Not sure what bike you are installing on. If installing on the LT, should be quite simple to tap in to the small running light that is located in the headlight. I have used this wire for a couple different projects using low draw, key on power.

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Re: Emblem LED hook up help

Thanks for the reply,

I have a 2011 RT.

Yes, that is the light I would like to tie into.
Are the wires easy to get at?
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Sorry, I have NO experience with RT. Hopefully someone else will chime in here.

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Hello,

I have the LED emblem lights that I want to instal on my 2011 R1200RT.

I want my LED emblem lights (amber) to be on all the time.
So, I guess I am to hook up to the existing running light wiring.
Can someone that has done this, just give me some basics.

Thanks,
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Re: Emblem LED hook up help

You should be able to wire them to any circuit that is on when your key is on, running lights, map light, etc.

Remember that LEDs are diodes and therfor will only work in one direction on DC. If you inadvertantly wire it backwards, it just doesn't light up.

Note that I do not have an RT but an LT.
i remember seeing mention of canbus on some BMW bikes but haven'y paid attention to what ones, and that canbus systems for the brake and running lights act differently than non-canbus systems.

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Re: Emblem LED hook up help

Ya, that is the issue.
My bike has the Canbus system so I want to make sure I don't wire it wrong and throw a code on the dash.
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This should not affect the CAN Bus. Best to hunt down the side marker light wires they are Green/Blue in color and then any available Brown wire for a ground. The Green/Blue can be traced back to pin 58 on the ZFE (Chassis Controller) module. But you can also just start at the side marker lights. This info is based on a 2006 schematic but I have found the data to be good for my 2009 GS. They did not change wire colors around from year to year.

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Re: Emblem LED hook up help

Thanks so much for the reply.

I want the LED emblem lights to stay on and not flash with the signals.
Would I still use the side marker lights or the running light in the headlight?
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Thanks so much for the reply.

I want the LED emblem lights to stay on and not flash with the signals.
Would I still use the side marker lights or the running light in the headlight?
Can you guys define "sidemarker lights"?

Do you mean the small lights in the headlight module? And yes, I read the instructions on the LED emblem website and non-flashing, wire to the small running lights. These are supposed to be canbus neutral, ie no effect.

I thnk you guys are referring to the same lights? Sidemarker/running?

By the way, is the price quoted on the site for a pair?

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Can you guys define "sidemarker lights"?

Do you mean the small lights in the headlight module? And yes, I read the instructions on the LED emblem website and non-flashing, wire to the small running lights. These are supposed to be canbus neutral, ie no effect.

I thnk you guys are referring to the same lights? Sidemarker/running?

By the way, is the price quoted on the site for a pair?

YES a pair. I looked at it myself. Plan on getting a pair in the near future.

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YES a pair. I looked at it myself. Plan on getting a pair in the near future.

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Wow! From 95 to 124 euros, you must want these pretty badly.

They do look cool.

I thought the CANBUS was for communications/data between microprocessors and other electronic components, maybe even sensors. If that were the case, I wouldn't think it would be used as light circuits.

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Ya, that is the issue.
My bike has the Canbus system so I want to make sure I don't wire it wrong and throw a code on the dash.
If you plan on running extra lights but worry about causing a fault code or a power trip then run a relay to control the circuit and tap the lights off the battery through a fused circuit. A typical relay will draw less than 1/4 amp to pull the coil on the relay. That will not overload a circuit.

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Wow! From 95 to 124 euros, you must want these pretty badly.

They do look cool.

I thought the CANBUS was for communications/data between microprocessors and other electronic components, maybe even sensors. If that were the case, I wouldn't think it would be used as light circuits.
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If you plan on running extra lights but worry about causing a fault code or a power trip then run a relay to control the circuit and tap the lights off the battery through a fused circuit. A typical relay will draw less than 1/4 amp to pull the coil on the relay. That will not overload a circuit.
I am fairly sure if shipped to US you don't have to pay the VAT tax.

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I am fairly sure if shipped to US you don't have to pay the VAT tax.
No VAT outside the European union. I did the checkout on the website to verify it.

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The single light version is cheaper that the 2 light version.
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Thanks so much for the reply.

I want the LED emblem lights to stay on and not flash with the signals.
Would I still use the side marker lights or the running light in the headlight?
My schematic only listed them as single element side marker lights(as there were two on the diagram) so I presume they are the ones in the headlight. If those have the Green/blue wires then we have hit paydirt.

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Sorry for the dumb question;

If I hook them emblem lights into my accessory socket wiring won't they come on when I plug my battery tender into the socket?
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If you can plug a battery charger into the socket without have the key ON, that shows the circuit is still live when you turn off your bike, and take the key out--the LEDs would be constantly on.

You can attach the LEDS to any line to a light bulb in your "dash board". If you have a heated seat, attach the plus wire on the wire that has voltage on it before you turn the switch on. It won't matter if you guess on the wrong side of the switch--the LEDS just won't light. The ground wire can attach just about anywhere.

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No VAT outside the European union. I did the checkout on the website to verify it.
Where or how do they do the Euro conversion to US $

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Where or how do they do the Euro conversion to US $
. Use PayPal. They do the conversion for you. VAT is removed once you input your non euro- union address. Warning: PayPal charges foreign transaction fees.

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. Use PayPal. They do the conversion for you. VAT is removed once you input your non euro- union address. Warning: PayPal charges foreign transaction fees.
So does VISA

Which ones did you order?

color?

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So does VISA

Which ones did you order?

color?
. I did not order them yet. I just went through the checkout process to verify no VAT was added. My PayPal is linked to my MasterCard and my checking account. I use my capital one cc. They have no transaction fees for foreign purchases and for currency conversion. What's in your wallet?

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I have the amber ones.

It's still too damn cold up here in Toronto to go out to my garage and instal them.
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I have the amber ones.

It's still too damn cold up here in Toronto to go out to my garage and instal them.
I think I am going to get the dual LED's, was thinking Blue/Yellow and hook them to the Turn signals. I like the idea of a flashing side signal on the freeway!

Also, I got this note back from the vendor.


Hello,

the actual exchange rate is 1$ = 0.75 Euro. If you order from outside Europethe German tax will automaticly reduced (19%).
The best way is to pay by PayPal, if you don't have an account you can create aPayPal guest account and pay with your credit card.

Shipping costs to the USA are approx 6-7$ (depending on the products you want).

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I think I am going to get the dual LED's, was thinkg Blue/Yellow and hook them to the Trun signals. I like the idea of a flashing side signal on the freeway!

Also, I get this note back from the vendor


Hello,

the actual exchange rate is 1$ = 0.75 Euro. If you order from outside Europethe German tax will automaticly reduced (19%).
The best way is to pay by PayPal, if you don't have an account you can create aPayPal guest account and pay with your credit card.

Shipping costs to the USA are approx 6-7$ (depending on the products you want).

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I thought of the blue but it might be too dark in the day time. I saw a video of the white and yellow flashing. That looked nice.

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I thought of the blue but it might be too dark in the day time. I saw a video of the white and yellow flashing. That looked nice.
I thought that too, but it seems like the enblem should glow blue!

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