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Motolight and Inexpensive LED Replacements

Hey All,

Been doing much research and testing of LED's with my motolights.

For the price and free shipping, no one come close.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.30208
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Did the 6 L.E.D. per bulb thing on my fog / running lamps last summer .... Virtually WORTHLESS for light output.

Just switched bulbs again taking advantage of the awesome price DDM has on H.I.D. conversions. 2 micro ballast H3's for $49.95 + shipping
It was a no brainer and DAMMMMMMM do we have light now !!

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Did the 6 L.E.D. per bulb thing on my fog / running lamps last summer .... Virtually WORTHLESS for light output.

Just switched bulbs again taking advantage of the awesome price DDM has on H.I.D. conversions. 2 micro ballast H3's for $49.95 + shipping
It was a no brainer and DAMMMMMMM do we have light now !!
Scott, are those motolight mounted lights (hint: picture please)?

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Scott, are those motolight mounted lights (hint: picture please)?
No, not MotoLights, but inexpensive micro fog lamps mounted under my tip wings.
** Point I was trying to make is L.E.D. lamps have so few lumins of output there use as an actual M/C light source is worthless.

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I'd like to check those out some time... I need to keep up with Hoss (shoswell).

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Hey All,

Been doing much research and testing of LED's with my motolights.

For the price and free shipping, no one come close.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.30208
Just installed one bulb (dealextreme) to get a comparison.
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Good fer me! I like the balanced white light.
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No, not MotoLights, but inexpensive micro fog lamps mounted under my tip wings.
** Point I was trying to make is L.E.D. lamps have so few lumins of output there use as an actual M/C light source is worthless.
You have not looked at the latest technology coming out with the HPLED, they are up to 12 watt and higher and 1000 Lumens +. HPLEDs are even starting to be used for automobile headlights, and it's possible that LED lights will soon replace incandescent bulbs in every vehicle type, including the two-wheeled variety. Even BMW has come out with a HPLED headlight replacement for the GS and GSA.
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At this juncture 35 watt @ 4500 kelvin H.I.D. bulbs are producing 3400 lumen's worth of light. Doing the math on LED specs provided would place the LED 12 watts light output quite close per wattage ... but until a single led lamp can produce the light from a compact bulb as HID does ... really far from a apples too apples comparison IMO.
** heat produced however is an issue in this equation.

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You have not looked at the latest technology coming out with the HPLED, they are up to 12 watt and higher and 1000 Lumens +. HPLEDs are even starting to be used for automobile headlights, and it's possible that LED lights will soon replace incandescent bulbs in every vehicle type, including the two-wheeled variety. Even BMW has come out with a HPLED headlight replacement for the GS and GSA.

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At this juncture 35 watt @ 4500 kelvin H.I.D. bulbs are producing 3400 lumen's worth of light. Doing the math on LED specs provided would place the LED 12 watts light output quite close per wattage ... but until a single led lamp can produce the light from a compact bulb as HID does ... really far from a apples too apples comparison IMO.
** heat produced however is an issue in this equation.
What you are not taking into account is that the single HID bulb requires a ballast and starter, granted some of the ballasts have integrated starters, but then are larger because of it. Also the physical size of the LED is much smaller then a HID bulb, and yes LED's require a heatsink due to the amount of light produced compared to size. Currently 90% of power is converted to heat in a HID or Incandescent bulb, compared to 75% in a LED. Now compare the life span of an LED compared to the short life of the ballast, due to them turning on and off. Also kelvin temperature of the HPLED is about 5000 Kelvin, So IMO this is apples to apples. Once they solve the focusing of LED lighting, it will surpass HID lighting in package size, power efficiency and lifespan.
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Hey All,

Been doing much research and testing of LED's with my motolights.

For the price and free shipping, no one come close.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.30208
What did you use to mount them? Or did you just replace the existing bulbs?

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I just replaced the bulbs.

Actually, I ended up going with these.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...2FMR16-W6W.htm

Cool White, 24 degree beam

More expensive, but worth it.
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I just replaced the bulbs.

Actually, I ended up going with these.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...2FMR16-W6W.htm

Cool White, 24 degree beam

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+1 I bought the 15 degree version of those bulbs last summer when my search for the brightest LED replacement for the Motolight halogens led me to them. Excellent for making me more conspicuous to other motorists. Since the amp draw is so low compared to halogens, I leave them switched on all the time, without worrying about draining the battery.
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+1 I bought the 15 degree version of those bulbs last summer when my search for the brightest LED replacement for the Motolight halogens led me to them. Excellent for making me more conspicuous to other motorists. Since the amp draw is so low compared to halogens, I leave them switched on all the time, without worrying about draining the battery.
how does the brightness compare to the std moto light?
cool white or warm white?

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My 2008 R1200RT had motolights when I bought it (used) - and the bulbs were LED's. One of them was destroyed due to moisture getting inside (I believe) - and I was looking for replacements. I went to the Motolight web site, and my reaction was "you've got to be kidding me!" Over $100 for two bulbs. After reading post on various forums,and this thread in particular, I figured out that the bulb type was M16 and that these days (LED lighting scene is rapidly evolving) you can find them in hardware stores. I went to Home Depot, and purchased two of their store-brand "Econosmart" 8W bulbs (525 lumens). Color temp is 300K (bright white), not the bluer HID type of light, but they work great for me. $30 each.
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White White--see my previous post in this thread with photos!

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Yes, LEDs aren't a viable replacement. But CREE chipped LEDs are like harnessing the sun.

I've read a LOT of reviews while looking at some of these $200-400 Cree options (bikevis, whitehorsegear, baja design, etc) and reviewers pretty consistently say that 900-1100 lumens is the way to go.

I have a set of fog/driving lamps coming from eBay for a whopping $40, cree-chip, 1000 lumens (much brighter and you really shouldn't use them anywhere that a car might approach you from the front). I'll post up after I install and play with them.

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Did the 6 L.E.D. per bulb thing on my fog / running lamps last summer .... Virtually WORTHLESS for light output.

Just switched bulbs again taking advantage of the awesome price DDM has on H.I.D. conversions. 2 micro ballast H3's for $49.95 + shipping
It was a no brainer and DAMMMMMMM do we have light now !!
Can you provide an online store link with best led lights deals? Waiting for reply. Thanks in advance
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Looks like Optiled is sold by Motolight

Accent 3 Watt 6000K 12V LED MR16 18 Degree Lamp, GU5.3 Base

http://www.goodmart.com/products/opt...1304060806.htm

Optiled Radar 4 Watt 6000K LED MR16 Lamp, GU5.3 Base

http://www.goodmart.com/products/opt...1311060817.htm

Haven't tried them but looking for a suitable LED replacement

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FWIW: I've been trying to find a replacement for my amber halogen MR16 bulbs for my set of Motolights for months now. I get a 0.7v voltage drop when I switch them on! I've had them for years and they are great for conspicuity but I only get about 18 months per battery.

When my quest started Motolight didn't have amber LEDs. Now they do so I ordered a set. Unfortunately, while brighter than some of the others I tested, they are no where near as bright as my amber halogens. After running the new LEDs for a week one of them burnt out!

I read through the posts here and it appears no one else has found a good amber LED solution for Motolight housings either. Did I miss a post?

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I decided to take the risk and order the Deal Extreme bright white LED bulbs also. I figured for $9.80 including free shipping for both bulbs I'd give them a try. Looks like they're coming from Hong Kong so let's see how quick they show up.

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I just put in both my LED bulbs in my Motolights. They came from Shanghai and only took 9 days to get here using free shipping. Installation was just the same as replacing a regular halogen bulb. They much more closely match the HID headlight. I've only tried them inside the darkened garage/basement. Looking at them, they are brighter than the 50W halogens they replaced but don't appear to throw as much light in front of the motorcycle in the dark. But I'm real happy with my headlight already in the dark and like the conspicuous appearance to the oncoming traffic.

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holy moley moto-lightie, Chris. Them fairing mount lights are $400 a pair! them be spensive!

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No Mike, I already had the motolights. All I did was replace the halogen MR16 bulbs with the LED MR16 from Dealextreme for a total cost of $9.80.

BTW I'm thinking of taking your 14mm allen socket for a short ride, perhaps the first week of October. Would you like to come along?

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Yes I gathered. But someone bought the lights at some point.

Yes I'd love to. Gimme a shout anytime.

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