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post #1 of 11 Old Jun 28th, 2008, 7:19 pm Thread Starter
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Need HID Help!

I was running a CQ HID up until late last year. Light was failing to ignite at times and I tired of fussing with it,so switched back to stock. Had read here that this may be a symtom of bulb failure so recently contacted CQ and ordered replacement bulb, (yearned for light again). Just tried reconnecting everything and still no worky. Had a new battery on the bench and tried connecting leads to battery and viola, the light shined. Went back and forth several times and would work on bench but not in bike. Could this be a problem with 1) battery in bike original, low draw? or 2) relay issue in CQ wiring harness? Even tried old HID bulb again with same results, worked on bench not in bike. Anyone?
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Your ground wire (brown) near the headlight may be corroded. I would check to make sure it is a tight clean connection (common problem).

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Thanks, had not seen that mentioned before. Off to the garage now, I really miss that extra help at night.

John, wondered if you could provide further info as to where GRND is located. Behind dust cover? on part of frame? Any additional info would be appreciated.

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When attempting to trace ground, I think that it is attached to the keeper clip for the Hi beam. Would this be correct? Still wondering if ground is corroded, why then does the stock bulb work fine? Does this minor corrosion effect the HID start up?
Also, if the aforementioned clip is the ground, is nose cone removal the only way to reach this?

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That is indeed the common ground.
A common issue with the CQ kits is connector blades that get pushed in when you hook them up and contact is lost, but you won't see it as it happens inside the connector sleeves. You may want to test there. Some used a toothpick to keep the blades from sliding.

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Thanks for the info. When you mention using toothpicks, do you insert from the backside of plug to keep from moving?
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Thanks for the info. When you mention using toothpicks, do you insert from the backside of plug to keep from moving?
Any which way you can think of to keep the darn blades from moving out when you think you are making a connection. It took me a good hour of troubleshooting when I installed my kit. I believe that connectors have been upgraded since.

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Thanks again, but as mentioned I have just recently purchased a replacement bulb so if the connectors were updated I must have rec'vd old stock. I did notice, when plugging together, some movement. Any one try respreading the connector plug?
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Try removing the insulating sleeves on the connectors and make good contact, then insulate with high quality tape.

Because of what you wrote "Went back and forth several times and would work on bench but not in bike" I am convinced your connectors keep sliding inside the sleeve instead of making good "male-to-female" contact.
Can be tricky to connect everything while under the cowls on the bike, quite different than on the bench.

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Everybody's talking about the ground like it's the problem. Haven't proven that yet.

Get a voltmeter and check for proper voltage at the ballast input terminals.

The ground wire is the brown one. Work your way backwards till you find the problem.
The yellow or white will be picking the relay. I think that's the colors of the wires anyway. You really don't even need the relay since the HID draws less current than the stock lamp.

I wired mine straight up and never once had an issue with it.

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Spoke with CQ yesterday and explained my problem. I questioned about any revisions to the harness that may help. They indicated that the spade connectors have not been changed but offered to send me a new harness to try at no charge. I believe that the connectors are not making connection, sliding by whatever, but will await the new harness before trying to modify the OEM plug. When looking at the OEM bulb and comparing the length of the bulb connector vs. the harness connector, it is quite obvious that the spade connectors are substantially longer. Will wait and see.
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