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Good deal on HID lighting...

This Company sells a HID for bikes individually now, no need to find someone to split the auto kit with. The gentlemen I spoke with said he has all colors.


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how "plug and play" is this unit for the k1200lt?

If its got tits or an engine you're gonna have trouble with it

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Question Just one Thing

Did you get one?, If so is it what you expected? Does it light up better than the stock light, Is the distance better?


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HID beats standard lighting anytime

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Did you get one?, If so is it what you expected? Does it light up better than the stock light, Is the distance better?
HID lighting provide more and clearer lighting than standard lighting. Using any of the aftermarket standard light bulbs may make you light whiter/bluer, but it does not help with distance.

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Question HID kit split

What a cooindince! I emailed the same guy (from ebay) yesterday with an almost identical question. The response I received today stated he has all standard color temps and sizes too. Look ligit to me, but... has anyone tried one of these or similiar kits.

Is a relay necessary for this or any kit? I have a 2003 and it seems that I see a lot of post about relays failing, so it really makes me wonder.
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Relays are not necessary, but if installed correctly and in a decently protected area should not fail. I did not use relays for either my HID low beam nor my HID driving lights. Never had a problem. I would do the same again if get another bike.

Relays are often good to place near halogen headlights, with large guage wire leading to the relay in order to insure you are getting full voltage to the bulb. Normal Halogen bulbs loose considerable percentage of light output with a small percentage of voltage drop in wiring. HIDs however do not suffer so much, because the ballast is producing a high voltage AC to keep an arc going, the arc does not loose much output at all when the supply voltage to the ballast drops a little.

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HID Group Buy.

Putting together a Group buy, I have talked to the sales team at CQLight,
They would be willing to sell a min of 10 units at $100.00 Each.
Is anyone interested? http://www.cqlight.ca/


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I"m interested....but depends on which "range" you want to get. I was thinking about the 6000 range....

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I don't understand the difference with the h4 versus the h7. I have a 2005 k1200lt if it makes any difference....so which is right for my bike?

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If you want light output to help you see forward, then stick with the lowest K temp possible. The 5000K will give more useable, whiter light than the 6000K, and the 4200K will be better than that. Contrary to the marketing hype, higher K numbers don't give more light, they just shift it more towards the blue/purple spectrum, and away from the whiter, more useable light of the lower K bulbs.

If you want cool purple lights for that slammin' street rod look (and the undue attention it garners from the cops and other motorists), then go with the higher K bulbs.

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I'm interested but I would like a 4200-5000k unit.
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I"m interested....but depends on which "range" you want to get. I was thinking about the 6000 range....
Same here. I would bet that we could get any color combos we need.

Count me in too (6000K)
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H4 bulb configuration is not used on the LT.

For all LT low beams you need H7

For LT high beam before 2005, you need H3. For 2005 you need H9 or H11 (H9 is a higher wattage variant of H11 in Halogen, but in HID it makes no difference, as they are all 35 watt).

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If I go with a H7 low beam 4200 to 5000 range, what range would I use for the H3 high beam? also, are all H3 bulbs "Plug and Play like an H7"? These will be going on an 03.

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Someone who has put an H3 HID in an LT will have to answer about the fit into the BMW holder. I have not tried it.

Get the same temp range for both bulbs. Don't want one white and the other blue.

I would want 4000-5000K range, depending on availability, nearer 4000 preferably for me if available, nothing higher than 5000 though.

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You will need to modify the bulb holder. The key is to get the right depth with the H3 retrofit inside the headlight bucket.

The www.hid-online.com H3 kit for the LT comes with an adapter to make sure the bulb is at the right depth.



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To all interested in HID group Buy From CQlight Inc.
After talking to the sales team leader Sheng, he would charge us 115.00 per light and will ship to your very own location. you can choose the type and color of the light.
Sheng would like me to gather all information, a minimum of ten orders need to be filled before he will ship.
So please, if your interested
I will gather the orders, make sure you have the following infos,

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5. Payment method preferred. (Pay Pal or CC) Dont give me any numbers he will e-mail you the order form.
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[QUOTE=Renzo]To all interested in HID group Buy From CQlight Inc.
After talking to the sales team leader Sheng, he would charge us 115.00 per light and will ship to your very own location.

This is the info listed on the site:
H7 5000K Motorcycle HID Kit $110.99 Buy Now
Does the $115 include shipping or am I missing something as to the deal he is giving the group?

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Yes includes shipping, "he would charge us 115.00 per light and will ship to your very own location"
Not to one location.


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Best I could do, its only saving you 13.99
Not much, however were not talking a lot to begin.


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Thanks Meese.....so back to the original question....just how "plug and play" is this unit, and for a 2005 K1200LT whats my original bulb I'm relplacing....a h4, h7, or h9 or what?

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The respond for a group buy was not there, I am going to order direct from the company. CQlight

http://www.cqlight.ca

Just a question what color are you guys getting?

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I purchased the 5000K kit from CQlight Inc. http://www.cqlight.ca/catalog/produ...&products_id=69

Very high quality product. I would recommend to anyone thinking of purchasing HID. They do not sell a motorcycle kit in the 4300K range which is what you might consider the standard bright white color. The 5000K has a bit of a blue tint but it's awesome. I have running lights mounted just below the tip over wings (standard H3 halogens) and you can tell the color difference between the HID and the H3s. The more I ride with the HID the better I like the slight blue tint. If you want to stick with a standard color however you'll have to purchase from another supplier to get the 4300K color.

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I highly advise getting 42-4300K if available, if not then get 5000K. Do NOT go for the faddish "blue" light of 6000K and above, actually LESS useable light, and more chance of getting noticed by a LEO.

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I don't know about this kit, as I installed an old stick HID many years back. The picture looks like it has a plug that would fit into the wiring harness that plugs onto your original bulb, so it should be straight forward. Note that the LT has a dust cover over the low beam bulb, so you will have to trim some plastic to get the wires to fit through.

Ask lovetomotor, as he's just completed an install of this exact HID kit.

As for bulb type, David's response above states: For all LT low beams you need H7. For 2005 high beam you need H9 (or H11 which has the same shape and socket).

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Has anyone tried them yet?

Since it seems that the group buy fell through, did anyone purchase one and what kind of a difference did it make.

I am extremely interested in getting one for my low beam, but with the group savings of less than $14, I am waiting until someone else installs one and gives good feedback.

Maybe there are others like me, in that regard. Maybe the best way to handle the group buy, is to let someone try it out, and if the product is successful, then make the group buy and kick a few bucks back the the tester as well.

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I am extremely interested in getting one for my low beam, but with the group savings of less than $14, I am waiting until someone else installs one and gives good feedback.
There is no doubt, HID works very well, but I agree with you, I'm wanting to see what feedback comes from the product as sold by that Internet site. When HID-online.com is selling theirs for 3 times as much, I'm real cautious about what seems to be such a good deal.

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I got mine today and will be doing the install next week. The parts all look high quality with clean connectors, wire and ballast/igniter. I will post when complete. I am happy with what I have recieved and at this point I am ordering a set for my car.I have been emailing with another on the board that got his and said it is a straight forward installation.

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airborneod....thanks for being the guinea pig! I'm not worried about the extra $15.....I just wanted to make sure it was an easy to install and quality unit. Looking forward to your future postings.... Glenn

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Putting together a Group buy, I have talked to the sales team at CQLight,
They would be willing to sell a min of 10 units at $100.00 Each.
Is anyone interested? http://www.cqlight.ca/
Did you ever do anything with the group purchase?
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I'll answer in case he's not around today. We tried to get a min order but it fell through. So, I guess everyone went their own way on ordering.
I posted a quick feedback in lighting on the kits. In a nutshell, they are very worth the price and the price is very reasonable. Really makes a difference at night. As I use them more, I am getting used to the slight bluish color and have started seeing my car's lights as yellowish, pale and washed out.
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Cool Bulb life?

Just one more question, About CQ light

Everything I have read about HID lights tell me over and over that the one thing that should not be done is to turn ON the HID then shut it OFF then turn it back ON with out a cool down period. That a rapid on/off will kill the longevity of the bulb

So some HID light kits have relays/switch kits so that the HID light will not come un until the switch/relay senses that the engine has started.

Otherwise you turn the key the HID lights up.. you crank the engine the HID goes outů the engine starts the HID comes back onů.Not good for the bulb.

What are you ideas about this and how it relates to the longevity of the Bulb?


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We can try again when more of us are ready....... Just let me know. but for now we did not have enough that were ready.


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Just one more question, About CQ light

Everything I have read about HID lights tell me over and over that the one thing that should not be done is to turn ON the HID then shut it OFF then turn it back ON with out a cool down period. That a rapid on/off will kill the longevity of the bulb

So some HID light kits have relays/switch kits so that the HID light will not come un until the switch/relay senses that the engine has started.

Otherwise you turn the key the HID lights up.. you crank the engine the HID goes outů the engine starts the HID comes back onů.Not good for the bulb.

What are you ideas about this and how it relates to the longevity of the Bulb?
I had never heard that about HID bulbs. In fact these bulbs draw less power, burn cooler and are not filament bulb, they are excited gas bulbs. I have auxillary HID's that I have linked to my highbeams and I turn them on and off frequently. I would be interested in a link telling me not to do this.

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I read a lot about HID in the time I was thinking about switching, and never read that either. I don't think it is a real worry. The ballast takes care of the high voltage initiation of the arc, and the switch to the run voltage when the arc stabilizes, so should automatically switch earlier or later as required due to the capsule temperature. I did have one bulb fail fairly early but the replacement one lasted a LONG time, and I was riding every day.

Having a relay to keep everything off until the alternator starts up though is not a bad idea anyway, and has been done on an LT. I think that is what Buck Wilmerding did, using a small relay on the charge light circuit to engage a larger one when the alternator started charging.

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I had a MINI cooper 2003 with HID light system , one of the warning in the manual was not to turn your light on and off repeatedly, could cause failure of the HID Bulb, I understand that there is no filament in an HID light.

the HID lamp is turned on - allow 5 minutes warm up time before turning off. http://www.omsdive.com/hid10-man-p4.html

This might be helpful also. see above
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Also,

http://www.jwspeaker.com/store/hid_x...nformation.htm

JW speaker makes HID system, they also agree with the on off so much that when they made the HID system for the HD Roadking they included a system of PCB/Relays that not only keep the light from turning on when the key is turned on, but after the engine is running the HID systm stays on even if your engine dies out. this will stay on till the key is turned off to reset the moduel.
Just some more to think about,
To bad JW speaker doesnt make a unit for our LT's.
I have their HID system on my RK and it was built very nice, price a bit high but bulit very good.
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I had never heard that about HID bulbs. In fact these bulbs draw less power, burn cooler and are not filament bulb, they are excited gas bulbs. I have auxillary HID's that I have linked to my highbeams and I turn them on and off frequently. I would be interested in a link telling me not to do this.
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H7 and H9

It looks like the 05/K1200LT uses an H7 for the low beam and an H9 for the high beam? If this is correct I don't see any HID kits for the high beam as they only seem to sell H7. Anyone dealt with this?

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www.hid-online.com sells the H9. Both kits can be had for around $460 delivered.

The H9 and H11 bases are similer so either will fit for high beam. So an H11 high beam will also work (in response to your other post in the CQlight thread.)



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