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post #1 of 11 Old Apr 29th, 2012, 12:04 pm Thread Starter
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Ok now that the new K1600GTL has been out for a while. Can I ask you guys and girls what you really think about it. I have seen all the reviews on you tube about it and it seems very nice. I saw my first one on Friday, Very Sweet. But is it really worth the money or should I just hold on to my K1200LT for a while longer? By the way what is the MPG you are getting on yours? Thanks


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post #2 of 11 Old Apr 29th, 2012, 1:33 pm
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Is it worth the money? Yes it is. It is the most fun bike you can have and I had a 2005 LT. It is NOT an LT though. It does not have the wind protection IMHO that the LT did and I am not a fan of the BT comm system. Some are in love with the 1600 comm system but not me. There are some smaller issues that happen as with every new vehicle and hopefull they will all be worked out over time. My biggest issue is the darn clunking noise when going throttle on, throttle off. Having said all that this is one terrific motorcycle and requires a little more attention to operate than most others but don't let that scare you off. Simply put, if you buy one put some miles on and enjoy what it is because it sure ain't no Ultra Harley and it is no Gold Wing. I don't believe I would put it in the category of a true touring bike but it comes pretty darn close while filling a desire for having a sport bike. Best of both worlds bar none.

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Is it worth the money? Yes it is. It is the most fun bike you can have and I had a 2005 LT. It is NOT an LT though. It does not have the wind protection IMHO that the LT did and I am not a fan of the BT comm system. Some are in love with the 1600 comm system but not me. There are some smaller issues that happen as with every new vehicle and hopefull they will all be worked out over time. My biggest issue is the darn clunking noise when going throttle on, throttle off. Having said all that this is one terrific motorcycle and requires a little more attention to operate than most others but don't let that scare you off. Simply put, if you buy one put some miles on and enjoy what it is because it sure ain't no Ultra Harley and it is no Gold Wing. I don't believe I would put it in the category of a true touring bike but it comes pretty darn close while filling a desire for having a sport bike. Best of both worlds bar none.

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I agree with what Ric said. I've had mine since last July and have ~6,000 miles on her. Knowing what I now know, I'd do it again in a heart beat.

For lots of pros and cons, check out http://www.k1600forum.com. The pros represent about 96% of the owners and the cons the remaining 4%. The 4% seem to be the most vocal.

Of course, that's just my opinion.

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post #4 of 11 Old Apr 29th, 2012, 6:28 pm Thread Starter
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Yeah a lot of the videos I have seen on you tube says flat out that it is not a Lt as you know it, and that it is the best of both worlds, a sport touring bike. The bad thing is that we in Cincinnati do not have a BMW Dealer anymore. I would have to go to Indy or Louisville to test ride one. I just don't have the time to do that right now. Will have to wait until I am on Vacation next. It was sure nice to see one in person. I have been reading about these software down loads and like I said would have to go out of town to have things like that done. Might just wait a year and see if things improve with them before I get one. Thanks for the answers guys.


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post #5 of 11 Old Apr 29th, 2012, 10:52 pm
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Rider did a fair comparison of the 2012 GTL and Gold Wing that had some interesting things to say about both bikes and is perhaps more objective than reading it from the vendor or its videos. May edition, I believe.

The GTL is a nice bike. A lot of new electronics. A great engine, which may be a bit hot in the summer months. Danged uncomfortable for me for some reason and a good argument to hang onto my 2007 LT for a while longer.

But the decision is different for every one of us. I would definitely not buy it without test driving it. Like any other new thing, it suits some better than others.

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I would definitely not buy it without test driving it. Like any other new thing, it suits some better than others.

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Bill I agree with what you said about the test drive, and for many that is important.

For me though, it was really just the opposite. I've written previously about how the bike just didn't feel right to me and the whole electronic throttle/clutch/slowing down/cruse control thing was simple difficult to manage smoothly. Even after several hours of riding and then my first 700-900 miles of ownership, I was still unsure! I'm sure that it was me because many got on the bike and had a blast.

For me, the bike was an acquired ride that I had to learn. I simply had faith in the BMW engineers that this bike was special and once I learned how to ride it correctly, I would be pleased with the decision to own it. I really did buy it on blind faith and at 6,000 miles I am not disappointed.

My point ( after traveling through hell and half of Georgia) is that a test ride and even 500 miles might not be enough for some and if their decision is that short sighted, (I don't mean this in a negative way) they really may be missing out on the ride of a lifetime.

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Yeah, what they said......I got mine last September and now have 8200 miles on it. This past weekend made a little run up to Arkansas and rode the Talimena Trail. Fog was so thick you couldn't see 500 feet, but after it cleared about a third of the way across the trail, riding was great. 2 up with luggage. Autocom worked great, bike was a lot of fun.
The day after I got it, I left for Colorado. Great way to get used to a bike, but as others have said, it takes a while to get used to it with all that it does. I'm still finding things.
It sits next to my LT in the garage(need to sell that bike) but the LT never gets ridden anymore. I took it out for a bit one day last week and it felt like a huge lead sled. Very hard to handle.....and at one time I thought it was very good.
The GTL is the best bike I have ever ridden and cannot imagine getting rid of it.

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Chiming in on Dan's comments...I think he's absolutely right...although the degree of adjustment depends on where you're coming from.

For me, my LT was the huge adjustment. I was used to a very quick throttle and clutch...my FJRs' throttles were not fly-by-wire but there was so much going on with the mapping that I think they behaved much like it. The off-idle throttle response was hair trigger, and so you either developed a "slow hand" or you would jerk yourself and the bike to death. The first time I got on the LT I thought I was driving a tractor! After a period of adjustment, I grew to truly love riding that bike and in fact it became my favorite tourer even for 1-up trips, for all of the reasons LT owners know so well.

When I first rode the GTL demo, I immediately felt like I was back at home.

I believe the issue that some have with driveline lash is due to lack of throttle control. When I say that, I don't mean to say that those who have difficulty are poor riders...but I think the degree of required smoothness with the throttle is just something that many have never experienced before. Maybe there are differences bike-to-bike...since I have ridden only two I can't really say...but that is my opinion in the lack of first-hand evidence to the contrary. To some degree, the adjustment hurdle can be mitigated by using the different throttle modes...I know that some guys ride in Rain most of the time. Again, for me, Dynamic feels "right" and that's the mode I use except where there are traction issues to contend with.

For me, all other factors aside, the huge win with this bike is the smoothness of the drivetrain when riding "at speed" all day. The lack of vibration and the abundant power in any gear at any time just make for an incomparable touring experience, for both the rider and the passenger.
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Any feedback on the MPG? What MPG do you get while riding between 70 to 90 mph at top gear?

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Any feedback on the MPG? What MPG do you get while riding between 70 to 90 mph at top gear?
Over 70 MPH you will get about 38. At 90 it is in the low 30's.

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Ok now that the new K1600GTL has been out for a while. Can I ask you guys and girls what you really think about it. I have seen all the reviews on you tube about it and it seems very nice. I saw my first one on Friday, Very Sweet. But is it really worth the money or should I just hold on to my K1200LT for a while longer? By the way what is the MPG you are getting on yours? Thanks
41.5 mpg first 3000 miles..love the bike..sweet ride..worth the $
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