Well, yes JimE, an FJR is going to be much quicker and better handling than a full-out touring bike! As far as the turn signals, I know that they're back to the 'traditional' style, but I personally like the paddles better
Reverse and electro-center stand: I know they add weight, but I remember when ABS units were the size of a wall safe too. Meaning, they could both be re-developed and be slimmed down in the process.
Meese - some of those gripes may seem minor to you, but not to me and my passenger. My wife and I have had many BMW vehicles and so have our friends. None of them have had to change out wheels or make the vehicles more powerful or 'fit' them better. In fact, our favorite sales person at the San Francisco BMW dealership (of over 30 YEARS), says he has rarely seen anyone change out wheels before or after the vehicles leave the lot!
One of our friends has an M, but hasn't touched it to enhance power or performance in any way I know of. I'm looking at my 19th street bike this time. I've rarely had to spend any money in making them fit me or the wife. At the price these bikes are off the showroom floor, and as often as I purchase...they had better come as close to everyone's general needs as possible! Regarding the Kawi Connie 14, the 'jk' refers to just kidding. I realize it's much more sport, than tour. As for my friends, I have two circles in bike-dom. Those that ride most anything (yes, many have HD's, Victory's, Buell's, Big Dog, Illusion, Excell/Henderson...), and those that are in a local BMW club that tend to mostly ride BMW's. Both sets of friends keep each other on their toes. If it weren't that way, the friendships would get a little boring. We're always bouncing ideas and experiences off each other. But they'd also have a great time razzing someone that drove up with 'wheel chair' arms bolted on their top box! Incidentally, the wheel chair comment came directly from the wife...
Ric - I can tell the temp of the water by reading the gauge. So far, everyone says the 1600's are awesome, oodles of power, near-perfect handling and the like. But what I also hear is just what I purposed at the beginning of this post; BMW missed the call in the design, nomenclature and visual presentation of the 1600's. Case in point, I showed a pic of the GT to my neighbors and a non-riding friend. After a look at the pic, they couldn't believe that I'd be swapping the LT for the GT - thank goodness the GT in the pic has no top box, it would look that much worse! Of course, this was based only on appearance, but I'm sure you get my reference. So, just as the earlier GT morphed into a different body style every couple of years, I wonder if the new GT's will do the same? Two years after the RR is out, BMW magically re-vamps it and it's improved in numerous ways. Similarly, I'd imagine the GT's will follow suit in the very near future.
Sorchilla - very nice response! Your wisdom is a guiding light!
Nuff Said. The wife and I take a test ride this Saturday. I've already told the dealership that I'll take the GTL they have in stock if we like it - which I'm sure we will. I've not test rode a BMW yet and not drove home with it! Question is; do I trade the LT in like usual or sell it on my own...?
Thank you to everyone for their input, I appreciate it!