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post #1 of 25 Old Feb 28th, 2012, 9:13 pm Thread Starter
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New 1600GTL

About 2 months ago I strolled into my local BMW dealer just to get some heated clothing
to wear on my 2008 Goldwing. I met some great people and walked out with plenty of winter gear to last me forever. While I was there I looked over the new K1600GTL that was in the showroom and thought, now that sure is a good looking machine and my wife said to me why don't you sit on it and I said no thanks, I was thinking to myself that I was afraid I was going to like it. I left the dealership feeling like I had contacted a virus or something like that.

A couple of months have past and I've visited that GTL several times and the virus continued to get worse. I kept thinking, your Goldwing is fine and it's paid for. Why do I feel this way.

Well to make a long story short, yep you guessed correctly, I traded and get to pick up
that GTL tomorrow morning.

It feels like Christmas and there is a Santa...
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post #3 of 25 Old Feb 28th, 2012, 10:48 pm
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Did the same with my Goldwing last Friday. Santa lives nearby so I'm blaming him.

Enjoy!

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Very nice - and the weather is just perfect, down here..... enjoy the new ride.

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Your "Sickness" will not get any better. That trip to the store for milk will now take a few hours instead of a few minutes as you will go the long way. On the cold rain day as you pass it in the garage going to the car to get to work you will now spend hours just looking & smiling at the bike. When you tell your wife "I'll be home for Dinner" you will have to tell her on what day also.
Enjoy the "New Ride"

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That is awesome as I do not feel so bad. I had a BMW K1200 LT and I walked into the BMW dealership for something and walked out with a K1600 GTL. They are an amazing bike. Enjoy and congrats.

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Many of us have fallen victim to the "just for fun" demo ride. Clever chaps, those Germans.

Enjoy the bike...you're in for a treat!

My $.02 of advice: forget about the menus and information display for a while, and just ride and get comfortable with the bike. Learn the info system in the garage and introduce it slowly and cautiously while riding, as it can be overwhelming and extremely distracting until you're familiar with it. Once you've got it mastered, it's wonderful. But you can easily get caught up in it and forget about job #1 early on.
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post #8 of 25 Old Feb 29th, 2012, 11:28 am
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I think you can blame it on your wife. LOL If she never suggested you sit on it you would not be an owner. Of course you can also blame it on your local Honda dealer. If your is anything like mine ( i still have an ST) mine has next to nothing for gear for the cruiser / touring guy. In all fairness that is not the Honda business model. Enjoy the new ride. It is a great bike.
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Welcome to the K1600 world.....I think you will continue to be amazed by this machine. The longer you ride it the better it becomes. Good luck with it and see ya on the forum....Kipper.
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SNIP...A couple of months have past and I've visited that GTL several times and the virus continued to get worse. I kept thinking, your Goldwing is fine and it's paid for. Why do I feel this way.

Well to make a long story short, yep you guessed correctly, I traded and get to pick up
that GTL tomorrow morning.

It feels like Christmas and there is a Santa...
Congratulations! I too came from a Goldwing. My last one was a 2009 that I sold to buy the GTL. I'm happy every day that I make that choice. The 'wing was OK, but almost as boring as it can get while riding a motorcycle (still better than a car!), while with the K1600 I just can't wait to ride again. I don't know what there is about this bike that thrillls so, but I love it. Its put the excitement back into riding, even without putting its power and handling to use! Don't forget to thank Santa AND your wife!

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[QUOTE=Ruben]Congratulations! , even without putting its power and handling to use!

But mostly with the power on!! Get ready to buy a few tires. ]
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Sorry about not getting pics on here but I have them, I just have to resize them so I can post them. My lovely wife will help me with that and hopefully have them on here next week.

Have any of you put the engine guards on and what do you think about them?

Tks
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I have the factory guards and from what I have read, they will protect the engine.

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Sorry about not getting pics on here but I have them, I just have to resize them so I can post them. My lovely wife will help me with that and hopefully have them on here next week.

Have any of you put the engine guards on and what do you think about them?

Tks
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Have any of you put the engine guards on and what do you think about them?
Put them on as soon as they were available. Frankly, they should have been part of the baseline package (like a Goldwing). Without them, you have a very high chance of engine damage if you drop it at speed.

Since they attach directly to the engine, I won't use any other aftermarket bars (unless said bars do not attach to the engine). This is for two reasons.

First, BMW alone has the structural computer model data with which the bars were designed. Different shapes and/or materials will likely produce different loads at the two attach points, so who knows what damage may or may not result from non-OEM bars? Add a third attach point and all bets are off.

This leads to point number 2; warranty. If the engine case is damaged at any of the attach points and I've got non-OEM bars attached, I'm going to have a hard time claiming a warranty repair. That's a $13,000 bet I'm not willing to make.

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Many of us have fallen victim to the "just for fun" demo ride. Clever chaps, those Germans.

Enjoy the bike...you're in for a treat!

My $.02 of advice: forget about the menus and information display for a while, and just ride and get comfortable with the bike. Learn the info system in the garage and introduce it slowly and cautiously while riding, as it can be overwhelming and extremely distracting until you're familiar with it. Once you've got it mastered, it's wonderful. But you can easily get caught up in it and forget about job #1 early on.

That's a good bit of advice, when I bought my 03 LT, it took me a little while to get used to all of the controls before I had it mastered (I came off of a metric with no buttons), but did concentrate on the bike itself.

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Interesting reply by Sfoster and something I did not think about. I have been looking for what I think is a nice looking set of engine guard bars to compliment the lines of the 1600, but I didn't think about damage being done to the bike from these bars in a fall or lay down. I wonder now what the company line will actually be on damage caused to the bike from OEM or aftermarket engine guard bars. Has anyone talked to a dealer about this yet?

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What I did not cover was insurance. If the bike is dropped and damage is done, insurance should cover it (less deductible), so warranty shouldn't be an issue in that case. That is by far the most likely scenario so non-OEM bars are the buyer's choice.

As always caveat emptor .

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Interesting reply by Sfoster and something I did not think about. I have been looking for what I think is a nice looking set of engine guard bars to compliment the lines of the 1600, but I didn't think about damage being done to the bike from these bars in a fall or lay down. I wonder now what the company line will actually be on damage caused to the bike from OEM or aftermarket engine guard bars. Has anyone talked to a dealer about this yet?

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Factory tip over bars would never be questioned by an insurance company, the Adjuster asked me if i had accesorised my k1200lt with these, thinking maybe like most bikes they are added like harleys etc, he was going to give me more insurance for the investment of the crash bars along with any other ads, if it damages the engine because of the crash bars we all know it will, so what, for you a new bike anyway...FYI
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Hmm, I have never known any manufacturer to call these types of bars "crash" bars. They have been and most likely will always be known as engine guard bars or just guard bars. If you call them crash bars then you immediately give the impression they will offer some type of protection from a crash which leaves the manufacturer wide open for liability issues potentially to be determined by a civil suit jury. Thinking back to my Harley Davidson manuals of the past I believe the wording is something like the bars may help prevent injury in a low speed tip over but they are not designed to protect the rider from a true collision. Historically this has always been a problem in that people continually refer to this types of bars as "crash" bars when in fact that couldn't be further from the truth. This same problem exists when people call police model double bead retention tires "run flat" which is not true at all.

In any event, after the comment by sfoster I took a good look at some of the engine guard bars being marketed with emphasis on the mounting of these items. I now wonder how much REAL testing was done on these bars as it sure looks like they have the potential to cause serious damage to the engine case. Designing and fitting these bars is one thing, but designing, fitting and actually validating the bars in actual use is another. One could argue that in the case of the BMW guard bars there should (hopefully) have been some testing done on the mounting design to help minimize any damage done to the engine case in the event of a drop. There just isn't a lot of "metal" where most if not all of these bars are being mounted. And while it is true that your insurance company "may" cover the damage done to your engine case I think, at least right now, that you are more likely to get a favorable adjustment with the OEM bars in place than some aftermarket bars. Bear in mind this is all speculation right now but I am going to call my dealer tomorrow and see if he can shed any light on this. I will also add that if one 1600 owner waited for 5 months for a coolant tank for his bike imagine how long the wait will be for an engine block!

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Congratulations on the new bike. I think many of us went into the showroom looking for a quart of oil and came out with something $30,000 more expensive. I know I did. The crash bars are cheap insurance. Buy them.
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Under no circumstances would the warranty cover damage related to a drop, slide, skid, crash, bump, or any other form of contact with the ground or any other object...
That's what insurance is for..

If the engine case got cracked or broken, It's likely the bike would be totaled anyway....

So buy those crash bars.. And if you really use them.. You'll get some new ones on your new bike...


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Let me remind you all of my sad story! I HAD MY GTL FOR 26 HRS beforeI crashed it. while looking at the high tech dash display. I ran into the back of a stopped car at about 10 mph. It folded the front end and cracked the engine housing as well as some tuperware. The bike ended up being a total.
I am certain it could have been saved if I had the engine guards. The dealer hadn't received them at the he delivered the bike. DON'T LEAVE HOME WITHOUT THEM!!!!
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Finally a pic of my new GTL....

Topsarg, sorry about your mishap but the important thing is you're still hear to talk about it...
The bike can be replaced...

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