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Made these in the fall and they work great. It puts a bubble of still air around your hands. I made them out of 1/8" polycarbinate. I used snaps so that I can take them off if I need to.







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Very nice thanks for sharing...matthew
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I like them... We could use um occasionally in Florida.

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Garry, Garry, Garry , You should know by now that if you make something this cool you "HAVE" to make more. I'll buy a set Just tell me how much.

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I am in the middle of a move from Ontario to Alberta, should be done the week of Jan 23th. If you can wait till February I could make up some sets of these. Let me know who wants them. Don't know the price yet but I will be fair, plus shipping.

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I am in the middle of a move from Ontario to Alberta, should be done the week of Jan 23th. If you can wait till February I could make up some sets of these. Let me know who wants them. Don't know the price yet but I will be fair, plus shipping.

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Put me down for a set..

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I am in the middle of a move from Ontario to Alberta, should be done the week of Jan 23th. If you can wait till February I could make up some sets of these. Let me know who wants them. Don't know the price yet but I will be fair, plus shipping.

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I might be interested too, they look pretty neat, and I've discovered that heated grips do knowing to warm up the outsides of my fingers when they're right in the wind blast!

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Garry,

looks like a great design - put me down for a set please.

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Gary I could use a set.


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I have 14 names so far from the 2 websites. Looks like I'll have to make a batch run of 20 pair for the first one. Still working on pricing.

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Hey Gary, I'll take a set. I'm up in the high desert of Southern Cal and it gets pretty nippy.

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I have 14 names so far from the 2 websites. Looks like I'll have to make a batch run of 20 pair for the first one. Still working on pricing.

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I am also in , I have just sent you a pm

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Garry,

My question for your considered opinion is how well will the snaps hold the deflectors at high speed? At least freeway legal speed? Otherwise, the deflectors look fantastic and you've got a very nice looking product. I'm sure before long I'll be ordering a set as well.

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My question for your considered opinion is how well will the snaps hold the deflectors at high speed? At least freeway legal speed? Otherwise, the deflectors look fantastic and you've got a very nice looking product. I'm sure before long I'll be ordering a set as well.
I've had my bike with the deflectors at hyway speeds in Edmonton area (110 kph) with no problems.

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I have 14 names so far from the 2 websites. Looks like I'll have to make a batch run of 20 pair for the first one. Still working on pricing.

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Looks like the first batch will be 40 pairs.

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Hi Gary: Please put me in for a set. You did a great job on those. I will PM you my information.

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I said the speed limit is 110 kph

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OK All

I have worked out a price.

Price per set = $35.00 US plus shipping (Canada Post, USPS)

Expected delivery will be approx. first week of February.

Please go to www.gkramer.ca to order your set.

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Garry will you send a Pay Pal request for payment or provide your PayPal name so we can send payment?
Also how much will shipping be?
Either way I'm in for a set.

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Garry will you send a Pay Pal request for payment or provide your PayPal name so we can send payment?
Also how much will shipping be?
Either way I'm in for a set.
When I have them almost done I'll let you know the shipping costs and a PayPal address. I don't want to take any money till then.

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When I have them almost done I'll let you know the shipping costs and a PayPal address. I don't want to take any money till then.

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Made these in the fall and they work great. It puts a bubble of still air around your hands. I made them out of 1/8" polycarbinate. I used snaps so that I can take them off if I need to.







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Hi Gary,
R these still available?
I've used a pair of hippo hands but at high speeds they fold over & knock off the cruise control.
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I've used a pair of hippo hands but at high speeds they fold over & knock off the cruise control.
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Yes they are, taking orders for delivery beginning Feb.

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Packing up the house today. Everything looks good to delivery the wind deflectors by the first week of February for those that ordered. There are still some left on the first order if anyone wants to order at www.gkramer.ca

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Yo Garry, My hands are getting too cold !!!! Any word yet.

BTW Thanks for stepping up & doing this for everyone.

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I'm probably early on the list, but it's so warm around here that I'll gladly give up my spot to the next one on the list up north.

I'm back to my summer gloves.

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How many prototypes did you go through? Would you make any changes if you were to redesign?

The reason I ask is that the wind that gets past the mirrors is the only annoying thing about my GT. Of course the easist way would be go back to the RT fairing style with the mirrors part of the fairing. What's the old saying ":if it ain't broke, dont fix it! I think the RT fairing design is still one of the best. Very clean and very smooth in the wind. The GT is rough in the wind. The screens are too small and the mirrors don't help at all. I would like to see the nirrors redesigned to cut the wind turbulance in that area.

Any one else have any thoughts?.

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How many prototypes did you go through? Would you make any changes if you were to redesign?

The reason I ask is that the wind that gets past the mirrors is the only annoying thing about my GT. Of course the easist way would be go back to the RT fairing style with the mirrors part of the fairing. What's the old saying ":if it ain't broke, dont fix it! I think the RT fairing design is still one of the best. Very clean and very smooth in the wind. The GT is rough in the wind. The screens are too small and the mirrors don't help at all. I would like to see the nirrors redesigned to cut the wind turbulance in that area.

Any one else have any thoughts?.
I have 60 sets CNC cut, have to put the snaps on them this weekend and send them out. As of today I have orders for 53 sets.

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I do not even have a K1600 yet but I still want a pair...

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Mine came in today & it took about 10 minutes to install. I did have to trim off the little upper point that was too close to the bike & I thought it might rub on the paint.

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Steve, Did you take off the mirrors to drill the two holes?

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Nope just taped the templet in place & drill the holes. I did have one templet move a little & that it way I had to shave the point down a little. I had to drill the other side a little off so it would match the first side.

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I have a set of the hand wind protectors available to anyone who would like to have them. They are new, never installed. Really not what I had in mind for a $30K motorcycle. Send me a PM and just pay the shipping and they are yours.
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Had a good chance to "test" the hand guards today. It started out around 35 degrees but got up to 70 by noon. The Guards worked GREAT. They put a nice little bubble of "calm" air around the hands. They fit great with NO vibration at all.
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I would like a set as well Garry. I live in Saskatchewan near Lloydminster. Depending on where you are moving too, maybe I could drop buy and pick them up.
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I'm in Edmonton now. Little chilly for a ride, but, I saw a bike with sidecar out yesterday.

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It never ceases to amaze me how brilliant BMW can be and yet how damn stupid at the same time. They thought enough to put an air scoop to cool you down but couldn't figure out that it might be a good idea to protect the hands. Not everyone rides in Florida and So. California. It seems wind deflectors could have been incorporated in the mirror support arms design but I guess that would have bumped the price up over the $30,000 mark.
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Especially when they did it so well on a $23K K1200LT. Passenger got a lot more protection back there too. I am just saying...

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And when the LT first came out at $23K, folks complained about how much it cost back then . . .

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It never ceases to amaze me how brilliant BMW can be and yet how damn stupid at the same time. They thought enough to put an air scoop to cool you down but couldn't figure out that it might be a good idea to protect the hands. Not everyone rides in Florida and So. California. It seems wind deflectors could have been incorporated in the mirror support arms design but I guess that would have bumped the price up over the $30,000 mark.
It gets cold in Florida too, occasionally !

I really do think though, that the K1600 was well thought out ( Yea, I drank the Cool-Aid) in most areas, but it would have been interesting to be able to listen in on the discussions before the bike was designed. Coming from an 02 K1200LT, and I've said this before, most of the things that I added or enhanced to my K1200LT were incorporated into the K1600. A thing that I did not like in the later model K1200LT was the hydraulic center stand. It was left off, along with a little weight. The quick removal side bags and top case were also requested.

It was almost like they read my mind or listened to the K1200LT comments. Time will tell on the problems, that to me, seem to be very minor and limited.

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I am a late bloomer in switching to a BMW. In fact it wasn't until I rode an early LT that I ever considered switching from Harley. I was a dyed-in-the-wool Road Glide owner and thought I would never own anything else. I have owned many H-D baggers but the Road Glide was and still is the best open road bike Harley makes. When I took a 2005 LT for a test ride I said WOW it doesn't get better than this. The LT had everything I thought I would ever want on a bike. The protection from rain and cold was great and I REALLY liked the powered center stand and used it the majority of the time I parked. It was great to be able to straddle the bike, push a button and have the bike almost automatically flop on the center stand. The one thing I thought was missing was a 6th gear in the trans which couldn't happen with a reverse gear which as I recall I used one time just to show it off. The top selling point for me was ABS though.

I have always thought that vehicle manufacturers, especially motorcycle makers, should rely more on customer input when designing a new model. Don't get me wrong, they MAY hear some comments good or bad, but they don't really solicit customer remarks about a product until it is a done deal. From my time working for the great American motorcycle company I was made more than aware of the secrecy surrounding motorcycle design work. Bikes are kept in the dark almost until the very last moment and when they are released you are stuck with whatever someone has designed. One team works on this part of the bike and another works on a different part, but only a few select individuals get to see the entire product. It has always been my opinion that if I were charged with designing a new motorcycle at some point I would assemble a group of riders from a forum such as this and let them evaluate some early design work before the bike is "cast in stone". Now I know that you can never make everyone happy in a new design, just look at what owners are saying of the new 1600, some like this and that or don't like it, but I think an even better job of product development could have been done with some comments "from the field" so to speak. I haven't picked up my new GTL yet, but I will be very surprised if this bike gives me as much rain protection as my 2005 LT. We will see...

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Sorry for the delay. I finally have things sorted out and have a bunch ready for shipping if anyone wants them. Please use the order form at www.gkramer.ca If you already ordered you should of received an email from me about shipping.

Again, sorry for the delay.

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