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Top speed limitator + more Impressions

Just back from a 3900 km (> 2400 miles) ride in Europe, in particular the Alps of Austria and Italy.

It is quite much easier to hande on the narrow serpentine roads of the Alps, The 40 kg less and probably a much lower weight point help a lot.

Top speed: there has been some rumours and statments that the GTL do have an in-built speed limitation of 220 km/h ( 137 mph), in reality, at laest on my GTL it made 240 km/h ( 150 mph) on the meter ( the GPS showed 229 km/h=142mph).

The experience was made on the german Autobahn in good driving conditions.
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Have you experienced the rev limiter in other gears? It normally kicks in a few past the posted red line. The top speed limit is the same function I believe. On my bike it was in the area of 240K. May be you haven't gotten there yet?
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Have you experienced the rev limiter in other gears? It normally kicks in a few past the posted red line. The top speed limit is the same function I believe. On my bike it was in the area of 240K. May be you haven't gotten there yet?

It is sure not a rpm-limiter, but a speed limiter.
At 240 km/h , the rpm was between 6k-7k. It does not cut off ignition but feels more like it does limit the amount of fuel injected.
And it accelerated well all the way to 240, there is a lot of more power left that will never be used because of the limitation
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..... and another interesting feature is the the speedometer is pretty accurate. I noticed that when it read 70, my GPS read 68-69.

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where exactly is that road you pictured? I must go there. wow
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..... and another interesting feature is the the speedometer is pretty accurate. I noticed that when it read 70, my GPS read 68-69.
In Sweden, legislation / regulations require less accuracy, consequently the manufacturers deliver less accuracy.
Typical the speedometer shows 5% too much
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where exactly is that road you pictured? I must go there. wow

The left picture is a place in Italy called Passo Stelvio and the right picture is Passo Rombo ( german Timmelsjoch) between Austria and Italy.

I add 1 more picture of Stelvio take from bottom of the valley and another one from Timmelsjoch

PS. Stelvio is 2757 m above ocean level and Rombo is 2509 m.
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I was happy with my LT until I started reading these GTL posts....of course, now I can't STOP reading them!!! ARRRGGGGG.

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Looks like you had mutch better weather than we did when we were there 2 years ago.(it was very cold and snowing)
How was the 1600 in all those hairpin corners?

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Well, my GTL was showing 240 on the speedometer, but ded on 220 on the GPS!
As yours - accelerate as a demon all the way up to full speed - and then stopped.
1/3 of the throttle left - but nothing happens when trying to find the last 1/3

A video from the alps - Grosz glockner - two K1600 up the hill some 6min into the video - in perfect weather - 3 weeks ago !

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Well, my GTL was showing 240 on the speedometer, but ded on 220 on the GPS!
As yours - accelerate as a demon all the way up to full speed - and then stopped.
1/3 of the throttle left - but nothing happens when trying to find the last 1/3

A video from the alps - Grosz glockner - two K1600 up the hill some 6min into the video - in perfect weather - 3 weeks ago !

http://video.my-mc.com/showvideo/71.html

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Were you running in dynamic or road, I heard today that affects top speed I did 120 on a k1200gtl today and seemed to top out, if i had a longer straight it might have eased to 137 from 4500 to red line it was loosong its pull?? on this Demo bike



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Just back from a 3900 km (> 2400 miles) ride in Europe, in particular the Alps of Austria and Italy.

It is quite much easier to hande on the narrow serpentine roads of the Alps, The 40 kg less and probably a much lower weight point help a lot.

Top speed: there has been some rumours and statments that the GTL do have an in-built speed limitation of 220 km/h ( 137 mph), in reality, at laest on my GTL it made 240 km/h ( 150 mph) on the meter ( the GPS showed 229 km/h=142mph).

The experience was made on the german Autobahn in good driving conditions.
Advices: the screen must be in lowest position, the ventilation flaps should be closed, sit as much back as possible to minimize the space between driver and topbox
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Were you running in dynamic or road, I heard today that affects top speed I did 120 on a k1200gtl today and seemed to top out, if i had a longer straight it might have eased to 137 from 4500 to red line it was loosong its pull?? on this Demo bike

Full throttle in road or dynamic will give you the same amount of power, rain mode is less. Try using 5th gear.
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Were you running in dynamic or road, I heard today that affects top speed I did 120 on a k1200gtl today and seemed to top out, if i had a longer straight it might have eased to 137 from 4500 to red line it was loosong its pull?? on this Demo bike
I've been past 125 (indicated, on GPS) on my GTL in Road mode, and there was definitely more available. I only stopped there because the bike was starting to get a little squirrelly (likely due to the top case).

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I was happy with my LT until I started reading these GTL posts....of course, now I can't STOP reading them!!! ARRRGGGGG.

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I've been past 125 (indicated, on GPS) on my GTL in Road mode, and there was definitely more available. I only stopped there because the bike was starting to get a little squirrelly (likely due to the top case).

another Web forum with pics shows some k 1600s from the factory pulling left and the front paralever is not in alingment ill see if i can find it and give you guys a jump to it.,on some bikes off the assy line at high speeds the bike is unpredictable, the fix was to shim the paralever over.alingning the front wheel to the rear..matthew

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I am jealous.... In my opinion, the roads in the Alps are the best in the world for riding. Awesome twisties, and impeccably maintained for the most part (the ones I've seen anyway)!

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I am jealous.... In my opinion, the roads in the Alps are the best in the world for riding. Awesome twisties, and impeccably maintained for the most part (the ones I've seen anyway)!
Agreed. Awesome roads and amazing scenery. I still miss it . . .

And the best part is that they built all these impressive tunnels so that the majority of truck and commuter traffic stays down on the motorways below, leaving the mountain passes for bikers, tourists, and the occasional bicyclist.

It's simply an awesome place to ride, and should be on every biker's bucket list.

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Were you running in dynamic or road, I heard today that affects top speed I did 120 on a k1200gtl today and seemed to top out, if i had a longer straight it might have eased to 137 from 4500 to red line it was loosong its pull?? on this Demo bike

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How was the 1600 in all those hairpin corners?
The GTL is heavy and should be handled with respect. Best is to, if possible, to look up- or downwards, to make sure you do not meet anyone else in the middle of next corner.

It is easier to handle in the hairpin corners than the K12LT was.
I have no experience, but I suspect the GS's are easier to handle, except the fact they are high and might be a problem if you have to stop in one of the ,pretty much, sloped bends
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