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post #1 of 15 Old Jul 12th, 2011, 3:14 am Thread Starter
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Load capacity vs LT?

Has anyone done a comparison of cargo weight and volume capacity of the GTL vs. the LT?


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Re: Load capacity vs LT?

Cargo weight? I throw this in the "who cares?" file. The specs are always not applicable in the real world.

As for capacity, the LT's was not that good for a tourer. I'd bet this spec improved. I know my '06 GT's capacity was better than the LT's.

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Cargo weight? I throw this in the "who cares?" file. The specs are always not applicable in the real world.

As for capacity, the LT's was not that good for a tourer. I'd bet this spec improved. I know my '06 GT's capacity was better than the LT's.
I agree the LT side cases are very small compared to the GTL. As for the top case it seams to be about the same size. Weight wise I would not worry. I ALWAYS over loaded the LT both with my fat butt & all the stuff I carried.

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I agree the LT side cases are very small compared to the GTL. As for the top case it seams to be about the same size. Weight wise I would not worry. I ALWAYS over loaded the LT both with my fat butt & all the stuff I carried.


Disagree, the top case is smaller. I bought a top rack for an Ultra Classic and put it on my LT, no way it will fit on my GTL. As someone has already stated, "who cares," I will pay nearly any price to ride this one. Got my FIAMM horns ordered today, thats the only thing I really need now.
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Sorry Messenger13 & Katnapin, I disagree.

The LT will carry myself & missus around Europe with enough space left over to bring back over a dozen bottles of wine. The official capacity is 120 liters I understand. The side cases are not smaller - they're just integrated better, as is the top case. According to my dealer the side cases of the K1600 are 34lts each - the same as the RT & GT. Add the 49 liter top case and the total is 117 - 3 liters less than the LT! And the K1600 has a fat arse not best for lane splitting.
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After doing an exhaustive search on Al Gore's Internet...

R1200RT.......521 lbs.

K1200LT........487 lbs.

K1300GT.......525 lbs.

K1600GTL.....468 lbs.

That's figuring the claimed wet weight against the permitted total.

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LT (per BMW) allows 22 lb. in each of the side bags. To late in the day to find the top case load limit, and the load specs for the GTL are hard to come by. The side bags look to be heavir between the frame, lock mechanism and case, but I doubt they have the awkward bulges from the lights and there is never a CD in the left one.

GTL drivers might legitimately ask what a CD is, but they still exist.

I do like the soft bags which fit into the LT side and top cases with shoulder harnesses, versus taking the GT / GTL bags off, emptying them in the hotel and putting them back on the next day to hold helmets and the proverbial stuff we pick up while out.

I also wonder just how well the locking mechanism will stand up and keep the passenger's legs protected in a tip-over. We hall know what the driver hasn't got.

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I also wonder just how well the locking mechanism will stand up and keep the passenger's legs protected in a tip-over. We hall know what the driver hasn't got.
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After crash testing a GTL, I can attest that the bags hold up well (structurally). Bike lowsided on the right, slid then flipped over onto the other side, hard enough to split the fuel tank. Bags were still fully functional and the locking mechanism worked fine. Bike was totaled.

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Thanks to all for responding to this thread. I am 3/4 finished with my trip from MO to Glacier/Calgary Stampede and back on the '09 LT that is already sold in prep for #647 GTL which is now "on the boat." Apologies for posting a thread and then heading out for my last LT ride.

I understand the comments on "weight, who cares." I estimate that our fully loaded LT ([email protected]#, wife <120#, 40# in the trunk, 35# on top and about 25# between the saddles +30# of gas) is hauling around 450# on this trip. The LT is a strong machine and handles the load well, but with the CG up a little, its a bit more testy on slow corners and coming into the pits for gas.

I should have asked if anyone has loaded up a GTL in a similar way to see how it handles the weight/high CG??


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LT (per BMW) allows 22 lb. in each of the side bags. To late in the day to find the top case load limit, and the load specs for the GTL are hard to come by. The side bags look to be heavir between the frame, lock mechanism and case, but I doubt they have the awkward bulges from the lights and there is never a CD in the left one.

GTL drivers might legitimately ask what a CD is, but they still exist.

I do like the soft bags which fit into the LT side and top cases with shoulder harnesses, versus taking the GT / GTL bags off, emptying them in the hotel and putting them back on the next day to hold helmets and the proverbial stuff we pick up while out.

I also wonder just how well the locking mechanism will stand up and keep the passenger's legs protected in a tip-over. We hall know what the driver hasn't got.

Bill

Bill--I heard from BMW Denver two weeks ago that they expect similar bags to the LT bags in the fall, but made out of ballistic nevertear instead of leather. I still have my original 1999 black leather LT bags that I use all the time. I would probably not take the cases off to bring in the stuff at night. If BMW doesn't come up with a set, I will have some custom made and post the result.


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Re: Load capacity vs LT?

I should also ask if the LT rack will fit on the GTL?? I mounted one myself on my original 1999 model.


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I understand the comments on "weight, who cares." I estimate that our fully loaded LT ([email protected]#, wife <120#, 40# in the trunk, 35# on top and about 25# between the saddles +30# of gas) is hauling around 450# on this trip. The LT is a strong machine and handles the load well, but with the CG up a little, its a bit more testy on slow corners and coming into the pits for gas.

If my coagulations are correct, you are still under the LT's wet weight limit of 487 lbs.

You...........200
Wifey........119
Trunk........040
Top...........035
Saddles....025
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.................419 lbs.


When my lovely wife and I travel, we are loaded a bit heaver than you all are. The trunk is dedicated to her make-up and hair stuff. The left pannier, to only her riding gear and clothes, and shoes. I carry all my stuff in a tank bag.

In fact, on one camping trip, I could not lift the LT off the sidestand when it was fully packed.

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I just packed the gtl for the trip to pa, I used the rka liners from the lt. they all fit (packed full i might add with plenty of room to go around. sorry but i have to say there is more than the lt. bags dont lie.

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Thanks for the information on how the LT bags work in the GTL. Looks like the buyer for my LT will not be getting the bags.

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After crash testing a GTL, I can attest that the bags hold up well (structurally). Bike lowsided on the right, slid then flipped over onto the other side, hard enough to split the fuel tank. Bags were still fully functional and the locking mechanism worked fine. Bike was totaled.
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