Originally Posted by WannaBeamer
I can't wait to see this bike and take it out for a test tide. I currently ride a Victory Kingpin and am pretty active in the Victory Motorcycle Club. I have been considering a touring bike and until now, the Victory Vision is the first bike that came to mind. Now I am obsessed with the K1600GTL.
That being said, I have a few questions that I am hoping you can answer.
I typically ride two up (especially when touring) and we always drag a trailer. Do they (or will they) make a trailer hitch for this GTL?
We are pretty big (OK.... fat) and between the 2 of us, we are 500 lbs. Do you expect the GTL will handle that?
I am used to riding with floor boards with my legs stretched out. The GTL has a legs down position. For those that have made the switch, how do you find the riding position?
With floorboard, you can move your feet around. Do you find the limited foot position of pegs limits your ability to ride long distances?
One of the rumors (on the Victory boards) is that most of the routine maintenance activities need to be done by the dealers and therefor BMWs are expensive to maintain. They reference a 7,000 mile valve adjustment that costs $1,000. I do most of my own maintenance (including tire changes) and would like to continue to do so. Can you shed some light on this?
Thanks in advance.
BMW will never make a hitch as I don't think any motorcycle manufacturer will ever offer a hitch for their motorcycles. However, I suspect the aftermarket will offer one if the GTL sells well enough and the towing demand is there. Personally, given the sport touring emphasis of the GTL, it wouldn't be my choice for a tow bike. Kind of like towing a camper behind a BMW or Porsche car.
I have never ridden a bike with floorboards for any distance. My Kawasaki Voyager had footpegs as does my current 1200LT. I have found both to be very comfortable for all day rides, but I simply can't compare to a floorboard bike. I test rode a Harley Ultra, but knew within 10 miles that it wasn't for me and my wife knew within 5 miles that it wasn't for her. This was after we had test ridden both the BMW RT and LT.
The mainentance rumors you are hearing are largely BS. Yes, the BMWs tend to require more maintenance than other brands. At least my LT has about twice as much scheduled maintenance as did my Kawasaki. The biggest pain is the annual flushes required for the ABS system. That is just insane. However, I beleive that many here have found that the LT didn't require maintenance as often as BMW suggests, particularly things like valve adjustments, air filters, etc., likely can go much longer than BMW officially suggests.
I've never heard of a 7,000 mile valve adjustment. My LT is 12,000 miles, but generally this is just a clearance check. Most say the valves seldom require adjustment prior to 50,000 miles or so. About the time that a Harley or Victory engine is ready for a rebuild.
And a valve adjustment is not $1,000 even at a dealership, but a full 24,000 mile maintenance visit can run close to $1,000. However, that involves a lot list of stuff, not just a valve adjustment. So, the Victory guys are basically full of it.
Read a little on the LT forum here (maybe the GT also, but I don't follow that forum) and you will see how much of their own maintenance and repairs as done by many owners. We have several here that rebuild their own final drives, swap engines, change clutches and certainly do all routine maintenance. Many buy a device called a GS-911 that allows the engine computer codes to be read and some other things to be done. Unfortunately, last I knew, the GS-911 still couldn't do the bleed test on the ABS so that is the one operation that I beleive still has to be done at the dealer with their fancy MoDiTec diagnostic instrument.
I have seen a couple of posts that say the GT family requires less maintenance than the LT and much of the maintenance is easier so I doubt you will have any problems doing most of your own work. I have found BMW parts to be very expensive. They cost about the same as Harley parts and about twice as much as what I paid for Kawasaki parts. I have no idea what Victory parts cost, but I doubt they are much cheaper than BMW or Harley.