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post #1 of 59 Old Sep 26th, 2010, 2:51 pm Thread Starter
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Kinda muscular looking, eh? The pix i saw yesterday were a lot smaller.
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WOW....may have to have this 1
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Looks top heavy again even more so than the current lt.
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Looks top heavy again even more so than the current lt.
I don't think so. The engine is lighter overall, and tucked very low. The seat is lower, and most of what you're seeing above the engine is a huge air box and inlet plumbing which has very little weight.

Plus the entire bike will weigh 200 lbs less than the current LT . . .

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I don't think so. The engine is lighter overall, and tucked very low. The seat is lower, and most of what you're seeing above the engine is a huge air box and inlet plumbing which has very little weight.

Plus the entire bike will weigh 200 lbs less than the current LT . . .
Yes I think it was the seat looking so low that made me think it looked top heavy.If its as low as it looks it will please a few on here me included.
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Thanks, Ted, for the posting.
Let the fun and games begin. Can we tear apart this piece of machinery? Of course. But then the bike hasn't been made that's going to satisfy everyone. If this is the successor to the 1200 LT, then that's a fair way to make a comparison. The top case looks a bit awkward to me, doesn't seem to flow with the lines. The seat looks low which, I suppose, makes the windshield height sufficient to protect us taller riders...and I assume the w/shield will rise at the push/pull/press of something. It's certainly worth a test ride and it looks nice enough that it will appeal to many, of not most of those who have been waiting for the new bike. Also, sounds like it has many new systems which may require some modifications in subsequent models, depending on the feedback from early owners. We'll see what happens but my guess is this will be welcomed by most.
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Interesting and fun to speculate....

I'd agree in that I hope the final top case is more integrated in it's design. (and removable). The saddle does look lower, which is good from a stopping/stability perspective, but also does change the ergonomics - the down side being the peg-to-seat distance is less and potentially not as comfortable for longer-legged riders. The fairing looks to be narrower and maybe less protection from elements? A lot can be done with aerodynamics so even though the grips/bar-ends are visually exposed, they may still be protected.

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I'd agree in that I hope the final top case is more integrated in it's design. (and removable).
Uhmmm, ....


me thinks this is it. This is how it will be on the Intermot and how it will be on the pictures of the press release next week....

This is also how the top case is fixed on the K1300GT and the R1200RT.
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I am still waiting to learn what it will WEIGH.

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I am still waiting to learn what it will WEIGH.
If we're starting a pool, I'll take 725#

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I say: 750 lbs (340 kg), for the GTL thas is, incl side and top cases.




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Weight should be lower. GOOD, although I never though that weight was what caused slow speed twichiness of the LT.

CG should be lower - love what appears to be a lower seat. 30 inch inseemers can likely flat foot.

The only thing I am curious about is that the weight of the engine appears to be fairly far forward with the bulk of the jug weight forward of where your hands hold the bars. I wonder what the weight distribution is fore and aft, and how that will affect handling; both "slow speed" and "at speed"?

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just a fancy GT.... its nice for what it is....but its no LT
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If the new GT/L is comfortable as the LT is with all bonus features I think BMW has a real winner. Who will be the first one to get one and will anyone have it by next year's CCR?

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I don't have any info that's not in the press-release or in that HFL article.

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My guess for the GTL with top case is 775lbs wet
That would be quite disappointing . . .

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... Who will be the first one to get one and will anyone have it by next year's CCR?
You won't see one at CCR 2011.

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My guess for the GTL with top case is 775lbs wet
That would be more than 100 pounds heavier than a wet R1200RT. If so, then so much for the GTL.

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That would be more than 100 pounds heavier than a wet R1200RT. If so, then so much for the GTL.
But also 60 -ish horses more powerful. I'd take it at 600 just as well as at 800. Once you have learned to master a LT, everything else is ... simple, easy.

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.........snip The top case looks a bit awkward to me, doesn't seem to flow with the lines......... end snip
Looks a bit awkward? It looks like something the cat left behind!!! Surely the production models will not have the top case pasted over the top of the trailer hitch will they? Compared to the current model (our old timey LT's) it looks like somebody completely forgot about the top case until just before the picture was snapped.Say it aint so!

BTW I haven't even told She Who Must be Obeyed that the trunk can be moved back from it's current position. It looks so perfectly integrated into the side cases when forward I just don't have it in me to mess with it.

Now the REST of the bike..... Oooh la la! She's a true Bavarian beauty! Think she'll be available in purple?

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BTW I haven't even told She Who Must be Obeyed that the trunk can be moved back from it's current position. It looks so perfectly integrated into the side cases when forward I just don't have it in me to mess with it.
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In my opinion LT is much more beautiful ... and integrated.

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Nice looking bike.

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My SO wondered if it will have a heated backrest? If not, maybe a single seat version
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Absolutely! She has ridden behind me about 400 miles total. I've ridden it nearly 18000 miles! Never heard any complaints about not having enough space. Only that it's too windy. And I'm too far left. And I'm too far right. And there's a big truck up ahead. And its raining. And I'm going too fast. And there's a car up ahead (300 yds) with its brakes on. And did I mention it's too windy? Oh yeah, nearly forgot the you're tipping too much conversations.

Yeah. I guess its pretty much all about my vanity!

In all fairness she has been trying real hard to enjoy riding and I'm trying to be very sensitive about tipping etc. So things are looking up. Its actually starting to be fun having her as a passenger. And....... If she complains about not having enough real estate I would certainly move the top case. I wouldn't like the way it looks but I would do it.

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Never heard any complaints about not having enough space. Only that it's too windy. And I'm too far left. And I'm too far right. And there's a big truck up ahead. And its raining. And I'm going too fast. And there's a car up ahead (300 yds) with its brakes on. And did I mention it's too windy? Oh yeah, nearly forgot the you're tipping too much conversations.
LOL... where have I heard that before.... hmmmmmm

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All I can say is I hope this bike is LOW enough so I can sit flat footed! I wanted a LT but I am to short and the LT is to heavy for me. As for the comments about the rear case, yes they drooped the ball on this one. It should be part of the bike not a add on...


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Absolutely! She has ridden behind me about 400 miles total. I've ridden it nearly 18000 miles! Never heard any complaints about not having enough space. Only that it's too windy. And I'm too far left. And I'm too far right. And there's a big truck up ahead. And its raining. And I'm going too fast. And there's a car up ahead (300 yds) with its brakes on. And did I mention it's too windy? Oh yeah, nearly forgot the you're tipping too much conversations.

Yeah. I guess its pretty much all about my vanity!

In all fairness she has been trying real hard to enjoy riding and I'm trying to be very sensitive about tipping etc. So things are looking up. Its actually starting to be fun having her as a passenger. And....... If she complains about not having enough real estate I would certainly move the top case. I wouldn't like the way it looks but I would do it.

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Hmmm - you guys ALL missed the most important part!!! Does that trunk have the mirror & eyebrow pencil compartment? Now THAT'S important!

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The wife would never agree to let me purchase one with that backrest/truck/seat combo. We tried it on a RT and she was not comfortable. I'd like something a little sportier than the LT but wife rides with me most all the time and her comfort is important.

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Q - what do you get when you cross a K1300GT with a K1200 LT ?

A - see post # 1


seriously, so, as all expected, its a nice, luxed up six cyl GT with an optional top case hanging off a GT length /wheelbase bike. nuff said.

For those whose usual road trips are 1000 + miles, the typical BMW 6k service intervals roll around awfull fast.

I wonder what the routine maintenence & valve check/adj is going to be like? It looks like it could be an effort to do on this. But hopefully the BMW engineers aren't too proud to look over, say an FJR1300 service schedule, with first valve check at 26,000 miles and oil/filter changes with no body panel removel needed. also nuff said.
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Q - what do you get when you cross a GT with and LT ?

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seriously, so, as all expected, its a nice, luxed up six cyl GT with an optional top case hanging off a GT length /wheelbase bike. nuff said.

For those whose usual road trips are 1000 + miles, the typical BMW 6k service intervals roll around awfull fast.

I wonder what the routine maintenence & valve check/adj is going to be like on this ? It looks like it could be an effort to do on this. But hopefully the bmw engineers aren't too proud to look over, say an FJR1300 service schedule, with first valve check at 26,000 miles. also nuff said.

The newest pics of the GTL with the swept back LT style handle bars makes me think it's going to be VERY comfortable.


The current K1300 is actually the least expensive BMW to maintain. All it really needs are fluid changes until the first valve check at 18000. I'd expect the 1600 to be about the same.

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The current K1300 is actually the least expensive BMW to maintain. All it really needs are fluid changes until the first valve check at 18000. I'd expect the 1600 to be about the same.

first valve check at 18000 ?

I did not know that--thanks TS. I should never presume......its that I get so weary of how fast the 6K intervals tick over on my LT and GS...thanks for informing me. I will be looking at both a 1300 and 1600 more closely now !
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The wife would never agree to let me purchase one with that backrest/truck/seat combo.
I'd say go ahead and sit on one once they arrive at the dealers. That's gotta be better than guessing from a blurry pic . . .

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Ted's right, the GT is part of BMW's new reduced maintenance program.

Recommended oil changes are at 6K, which are done by removing the seats with the key and maybe one body panel screw to make it a bit easier to reach the filter. I've done it in a WalMart or Kragen parking lot. And no separate transmission fluid change, as it shares the engine oil.

Oil change plus air filter at 12K, which requires removing one side body panel which is maybe ten screws. Much easier than pulling the whole fuel tank as on the LT. Also a final drive fluid change, although some folks do that every 6K to check for metal particles . . .

Oil change plus valve check and spark plugs at 18K. The valve check is a bit involved, as you have to remove the radiator for clearance, then refill it using a vacuum system, but a decent mechanic can do it in a couple of hours. I've done several myself without any problems.

Like the LT, a valve adjustment requires removing the cams, but that is very rare. I've heard of maybe half a dozen actually GTs needing the valves adjusted out of several hundred. Mine went 138K miles without a single valve change from the factory setup, and there are many other high-mileage GTs that are the same.

There's also a brake fluid flush every two years or so. But since there's no power brake motors like on the LT, it's a simple flush & bleed just like any other motorcycle.

And no fuel filter to change. There is a screen attached to the fuel pump pickup, but again, mine has been fine for 138K miles . . .

Since the Slant/6 motor is largely based on the Slant/4 technology, I figure it will also only need relatively simple maintenance.

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I have to say that the current LT is much more bueatiful. More luggage, better wind protection, crash bars, and just an overall better looking and fuller bike. No wonder why it's 200lbs lighter, it's 30% less bike.

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That trunk looks ugly to me. It does not "cradle" the pillion like the current LT.

It looks like an afterthought.

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That trunk looks ugly to me. It does not "cradle" the pillion like the current LT.

It looks like an afterthought.

You're right, the top case is but-friggin' UGLY! :

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C'mon folks, if the delivered GTL has an "ugly" top case, how long before some clever fellow comes up with a decent looking design that everyone will have? With all the pre-delivery interest this bike has generated, you just know there will be mods, add-ons, even factory extras that will be snapped up by those who get this new model. All this speculation is premature, but I've got to admit, it's fun to read. Give it six months after introduction and the mods will be flooding the market. Well, almost.
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C'mon folks, if the delivered GTL has an "ugly" top case, how long before some clever fellow comes up with a decent looking design that everyone will have? With all the pre-delivery interest this bike has generated, you just know there will be mods, add-ons, even factory extras that will be snapped up by those who get this new model. All this speculation is premature, but I've got to admit, it's fun to read. Give it six months after introduction and the mods will be flooding the market. Well, almost.
Hopefully Corbin will develop a top case for this new bike like they did for the LT

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Hmm, if something ugly was ever developed for a BMW motorcycle, it sure is this smuggler for the LT.

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that top case is the same as on the current GT, it may be ugly but its so dammed useful I don't care. I love that it is removable even though I have never removed it yet, I know I can.

Real beauty is functional and this case functions, i will take the 1600 and transfer the case from my GT to the new GT and think its beautiful first time I open it and put something in it for a trip.

I don't see people complaining about it being ugly on the current GT, why is it ugly on one bike and not another ?
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