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What will it WEIGH?!

I wonder what this bike is going to weigh. Less than the K1200LT? It would have to be a lot less than that to get my attention.




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Re: What will it WEIGH?!

Given how much lighter the R12RT is compared with the R11RT/1150RT, and BMW's recent new-found "lighter is better" religion in other recent new models, I'm taking a huge WAG and saying 650-670 lb.

Even if it comes it at 700 lb (which I highly doubt), it will still be ~200 lb lighter than an LT!

So what's a K13GT weigh? With such a small weight increase for the 6-cyl. motor, I have to believe the K16 GTL (in my view, a wedge-K version of the R12RT) will be within spittin' distance of the K13GT.

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Re: What will it WEIGH?!

It would be really nice if the K1600GT ends up roughly in the same weight class as the Concours 14, FJR1300, or K1300GT, but it's not likely to. 6 > 4. A figure that has been mentioned is a 340 kg dry weight which is 750 lbs, suggesting a wet weight of 830 lbs at least. However the 340 kg figure was quoted as the "empty" weight, which could mean dry weight or it could mean wet but with an empty gas tank (meaning it includes battery and oil weight) in which case the wet weight would be close to 800 lbs.

Hopefully it'll be lighter than that but I doubt it. Still, at the very least maybe they'll keep the CoG low and perhaps have electric reverse and/or center-stand.
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The rumors I hear says they're trying to keep it at most around 30 kg or so more than the 1300GT.

Yes, 6 > 4, but a straight-6 doesn't need any counter balancers so that saves significant rotating weight. And there are a ton of places around the bike that they can shave off even more pounds . . .

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If they successfully keep the wet weight within 30 kg (64 lbs) of the K1300GT, that would be extremely impressive. That would bring the claimed wet weight down to 700 lbs.
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Re: What will it WEIGH?!

I am sure hoping for lighter and lower CG. Up until all this hoopla I had already decided to sell/trade my '08LT and get a R1200RT. But now will wait on the details of this bikes deminsions and wts. I love the ride of the LT but am damn tired of the the top heavy beast at low speeds manuevers and stops.

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Re: What will it WEIGH?!

Lighter is key, that's for sure but Lord, please let the bike in those two photos NOT be the final design and/or heavily disguised. That is one butt ugly machine.

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That is one butt ugly machine.
The exact same thing was said when we finally saw spy shots of the LT, and the GT, and the RT . . .

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I'm sure the final production versions will be much better looking...they'd better be anyway if they want my $30K

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Lighter is key, that's for sure but Lord, please let the bike in those two photos NOT be the final design and/or heavily disguised. That is one butt ugly machine.
You cannot beat the boxer-engine BMW for good looks. The K bikes are superb machines, but not for their looks.

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Wink Weight specs for K1600GTL revealed!

I have it on very good authority that the new GTL will weigh well under 1000 lbs.
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I have it on very good authority that the new GTL will weigh well under 1000 lbs.
With rider and passenger on board?

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With the typical sport-tourer rider it will weigh 1400 lbs.
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You cannot beat the boxer-engine BMW for good looks. The K bikes are superb machines, but not for their looks.
Sorry Jeff, but I totally disagree. I have always thought the K1200LT was absolutely stunning and just had to have one eventually - and I had two RT's before that. My fear now, from the snippets we've seen, is that they'll ruin it.

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Re: What will it WEIGH?!

While a lighter weight would be nicer, weight distribution, lower CG and balance is much more important.

Both the Wing and the HD UC are much better at slow speeds despite being as heavy as the LT. The UC also has a shorter wheelbase which helps.

Below 5mph in the parking lot, the Harley feels hundreds of pounds lighter than the LT, despite it not being so.

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While a lighter weight would be nicer, weight distribution, lower CG and balance is much more important.

Both the Wing and the HD UC are much better at slow speeds despite being as heavy as the LT. The UC also has a shorter wheelbase which helps.

Below 5mph in the parking lot, the Harley feels hundreds of pounds lighter than the LT, despite it not being so.
You got it right on the money. People get far too wrapped up in numbers when feel is far more important. In any case, I expect the bike to have a much lower CG that the K1200LT - it's hard not to. The heaviest single piece on the 1600 is probably going to be the crank. An inline six with that much power will need a substantial piece for reliability.

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Re: What will it WEIGH?!

The new Kawasaki Concours -- no lightweight -- weighs in at 690 pounds wet.

Could the GTL do that, too?


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770 pounds

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770 pounds
The BMW spec sheet says GT is 319Kg 703Lbs
GTL is 348Kg 767Lbs

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Re: What will it WEIGH?!

It's 703 lbs with 90% fuel and no bags. Sidecases are probably 15 lbs each and there are about 4 lbs of missing fuel so 737 lbs wet for the GT sounds about right. After all the C-14 measurement includes the side bags and a full tank so that's what you compare it to.

But the C-14 has a wide and fairly high seat. The K1600 has a narrow and (optionally) very low seat, which would make it considerably easier to handle. Its CoG may also be lower though we won't know without sitting on it.
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Well, I am afraid it is too heavy for me. The R1200RT is as heavy as I want to go in a motorcycle.

But I will wave happily and admiringly to you guys on your new GTLs as you pass me at near light speed.

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