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post #1 of 13 Old Jul 9th, 2010, 8:26 pm Thread Starter
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Power Center Stand

While we are wondering and speculation about the new 1600, just curious if the new bike will have a power center stand? Might not have dug deep enough, but I didn't see it mentioned. Personally, for several reasons, I'm hoping it is left off.

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Re: Power Center Stand

I, on the other hand, hope it is still there. I use mine all the time, and it is one of the features that sets the LT apart from all the others. The other unique to BMW feature that I have come to love is the power adjustable windshield, which I understand will be on the 1600.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and postulate that the power center stand, remote bag/trunk unlocking, and reverse gear are being saved for the 2012 K1600LT. Or is that a K1800LT coming in 2013? I forget which . . .

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Re: Power Center Stand

I initially thought the power windshield would just be overkill, but I definitely use it ever time I'm on the bike. One of my most favorite accessories.

Power center stand to me is just extra weight, hydraulics and a heavy battery drain. Probably feel this way cause I hardly ever use the center stand. Nice if it were an easily added option.

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Re: Power Center Stand

I'm gonna miss being able to fog an entire acre of mosquitoes in 30 seconds. (but I'm sure we'll find something else to kvetch about.)

BMW has always been kickstand/center stand challenged, that's one of the few areas where Harley has always done it right.

What I would REALLY like to see is a power side stand - with a large footprint - that flips up/down quickly at the touch of a button... but I ain't holding my breath for something that useful.


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Re: Power Center Stand

While I do like and use the power center stand, the reason I do is that the beast is heavy, and getting it up on the center stand of my 2003 was always a pain - so the 2009 is a nice feature. However, if the GTL is significantly lighter, they wouldn't need the power set up and could more easily go back to a manual center stand.

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Power center stand to me is just extra weight, hydraulics and a heavy battery drain. Probably feel this way cause I hardly ever use the center stand. Nice if it were an easily added option.
I've already replaced the side stand and center stand on my 2001 LT.
Wore the feet off the side and center stands
and broke the crossmember on the center stand from dragging the LT through the corners.
That cost me a couple of hundred for new stands.
I expect that I'll be replacing them, again in a few years.
Not bad compared to over $1200 for the hydraulic stand.
Never had an issue getting the truck on the center stand.
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Re: Power Center Stand

I am a big center stand supporter! Like someone mentioned, it's one of those things that separates the LT from the other luxury tourers out there. There's nothing like watching people's eyes as the bike moves up on that power stand. As it's going up I always look back at people as if to say "what? you don't have this?? well, at least you have the electric windshield, right? hey, maybe you should get your money back and get yourself one of these bikes. Who else knows what you're missing on that thing!"
As nice as that 1600 engine sounds on the GTL, if there is an LT in the future (2012, someone mentioned) I would hold off for that bike with a power stand. I thought that the GTL was replacing the LT, though.
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just curious if the new bike will have a power center stand?
I felt the same way when I had my 02 LT,
now that I've had my 05 for a couple of years,
there's no way I'd give up my power center stand,
not only is it one of the coolest things to "show off" on a bike (no other bike has one)
it's also very functional,
I use it and like it as much as my adjustable windshield.


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Power windshield is guaranteed. All competitive tourers have it - R1200RT, K1300GT, FJR1300, ST1300, Concours 14. Well except the Goldwing as far as I know. Anyway it's too useful to omit.

But I suspect that either the K1600 will be heavy enough to warrant both the power center-stand and electric reverse, or light enough not to warrant either. But even with weight savings in various places, one would expect +400cc and +2 cylinders to at least negate any weight savings they achieve elsewhere...
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But even with weight savings in various places, one would expect +400cc and +2 cylinders to at least negate any weight savings they achieve elsewhere...
Not necessarily. Remember, the Slant/4 engines have dual counterbalancers, which add a noticeable amount of power-robbing rotating weight.

The Slant/6 motor won't need these and so should rev up faster and be smoother to boot.

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I just purchased a shorter center stand for my 2006 Gold Wing. Reverse on, drive off. There is even an after market windshield elevation kit for the Gold Wing. Honda built late 2008, 2009 and 2010 Gold Wing models before they closed the Ohio plant. The estimated arrival of the replacement is fall of 2011 and it will be built in Japan.

Having 4 BMWs and a Wing in the barn, I plan to let the early buyers have the pleasure of debugging both the new BMW and Honda Touring bikes. By the second year, the forums will have blasted the short comings to the Heavens and we can see what gets fixed.
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Re: Power Center Stand

Well, it sounds cool. I remember the "tech guys" at last years CCR (Rapid City) talking about the glitches with the power center stand. Their opinions would be useful here.

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