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post #1 of 21 Old Sep 30th, 2014, 3:26 pm Thread Starter
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Question Aeroflow Screen, Wings and Winglets

Any GT(L) owners have these installed and if so what has been your experience at highway speeds?

Currently own an 08RT and have tested both the new RT and GT. The RT at highway speeds (80+mph) cuts through the wind whereas the GT experiences substantial turbulence under identical conditions.

Me 6'0", her 5'4".

Any and all real owner feedback will be Greatly Appreciated!

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post #2 of 21 Old Sep 30th, 2014, 5:22 pm
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Re: Aeroflow Screen, Wings and Winglets

I have the airflow windshield,wings, and winglets
It is a big improvement over the other shields i had.
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Not as good as my 09 RT but close.
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Re: Aeroflow Screen, Wings and Winglets

With the Aeroflow fix and the GT you may be just OK but she will not be as good as you. RTW plus the aeroflow shield will the bomb or may be second to only the LT with a aeroflow.

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Re: Aeroflow Screen, Wings and Winglets

Thanks for the responses - any other real owner experiences with the Aeroflow system is Appreciated.

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Re: Aeroflow Screen, Wings and Winglets

I have the Aeroflow GTL screen, with wings, and mini-wings. Protection is better than it was on the LT. You can easily remove the mini-wings and/or wings depending upon how much protection you want.


If riding one up, and the weather is nice, I regularly remove the minis. The minis add GREAT hand protection. The entire system makes for a very quiet environment as far as wind buffet.

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Re: Aeroflow Screen, Wings and Winglets

I called Paige at Aeroflow and ended up with the tall GTL screen and both sets of wings. There was a world of difference both for me and my passenger. This is on a GTL. Call Paige, he is very good at recommending what will work for you, by your size and weight, and what you want. He had me sit on the bike and look at the stock screen while on the phone.

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Re: Aeroflow Screen, Wings and Winglets

GTL with a GT seat, I'm 6'2", she's 5'2". I'm running the Medium GT screen, no ugly wings. Much better airflow, though with the fairing out so far you get a bit of a backdraft. Nice thing is that you still get air to the torso for your jacket vents.

The wings and winglets, aside from looking hideous, would block that air. I can ride 80mph with a half helmet without buffeting. My wife gets more air than she'd prefer, but she rarely rides back there when it's cold.

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Re: Aeroflow Screen, Wings and Winglets

EXCELLENT - any and all other real owner feedback with the Aeroflow screens, wings and mini-wings at highway speeds on the GT or GTL is Greatly Appreciated!

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Re: Aeroflow Screen, Wings and Winglets

I have/had the whole kit from AeroFlow.. wings, winglets, and medium GT windshield. I too am 6' the Diva 5'3".
after riding last summer with that setup, i immediately re-installed the stock windscreen and removed the AeroFlow screen. IMHO the bike looks odd with the milky white AeroFlow.. and i had a difficult time with visual distortion with the AeroFlow.
i am very pleased with the wings and winglets….. those make a HUGE difference… I bought the smoked set for my Mineral silver GTL

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I have/had the whole kit from AeroFlow.. wings, winglets, and medium GT windshield. I too am 6' the Diva 5'3".
after riding last summer with that setup, i immediately re-installed the stock windscreen and removed the AeroFlow screen. IMHO the bike looks odd with the milky white AeroFlow.. and i had a difficult time with visual distortion with the AeroFlow.
i am very pleased with the wings and winglets….. those make a HUGE difference… I bought the smoked set for my Mineral silver GTL

regards

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Thanks Mike - We just picked up the wings and mini wings in smoke and have put on over 600+ miles at various highway speeds (80+mph=) they work EXCELLENT for us also!

Still debating on getting one of their screens as Ive heard that they are "milky" but like this set of wings are very effective at wind management. How was your GT medium screen wind management wise for you and your pillion especially at highway speeds?

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Re: Aeroflow Screen, Wings and Winglets

I have the full Aeroflot setup with GT medium screen. Nice pocket of comfortable air. It is the time of year for me to take the mini wings off to put some air on my jacket. I agree that the Aeroflot screen is a cloudy bluish tint but it doesn't really bother me as I look over it. When my wife rides she is comfortable although she is getting more wind sitting up high on the GTL. She likes wind!!

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Re: Aeroflow Screen, Wings and Winglets

Functionally is was great. The curled top lip of the Aeroflow screen is awesome. I just can't get past the visual distortion looking through the screen when raised and the milky colour.

I'm thinking of selling mine as it is doing me no good. I am going to stay with the stock screen in combo with the wing(let's)

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Thanks Mike - We just picked up the wings and mini wings in smoke and have put on over 600+ miles at various highway speeds (80+mph=) they work EXCELLENT for us also!

Still debating on getting one of their screens as Ive heard that they are "milky" but like this set of wings are very effective at wind management. How was your GT medium screen wind management wise for you and your pillion especially at highway speeds?

THANKS AGAIN FOR EVERYONE'S FEEDBACK,


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Re: Aeroflow Screen, Wings and Winglets

I've had six different AeroFlow screen on my two GTL's. A couple of hand-built prototype screens, and several standard production screens, and have had no issues with any sort of cloudiness or distortion.

I've seen a couple of pics on this forum where you could see a bit of a barely whitish tint, but none of my screens has exhibited that.

You might want to call AeroFlow and discuss it with them directly . . .

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I've had six different AeroFlow screen on my two GTL's. A couple of hand-built prototype screens, and several standard production screens, and have had no issues with any sort of cloudiness or distortion.

I've seen a couple of pics on this forum where you could see a bit of a barely whitish tint, but none of my screens has exhibited that.

You might want to call AeroFlow and discuss it with them directly . . .
Plus 1 , my Aeroflow screen is clear except for all the bugs

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Just an observation - Seems that BMW would have noticed this would be an issue, especially as compared to the LT, and would have an OEM solution (with fit and finish comparable to the rest of the bike).

Also would be nice to have an in depth interview with some of the lead design guys to discuss their thinking about this and other issues. Not to beat them up but just to get some insight.


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Re: Aeroflow Screen, Wings and Winglets

There are other options out there to look at. Myself I have the v stream with the wings. Works great! Puts a little air in the areas I want it. Had a Rt for then years, loved that bike! Very good protection. Less with the GT but that is the way I like it. We are after all riding bikes. Not like we can just roll up the windows.

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Seems that BMW would have noticed this would be an issue, especially as compared to the LT, and would have an OEM solution (with fit and finish comparable to the rest of the bike).
BMW's stock windscreens are made from polycarbonate, which is more expensive and harder to form. Almost all aftermarket screen are made from acrylic sheets.

One issue is that BMW designs screens to fit a certain aesthetic, more so than for optimum wind flow. So they work well, but not great, leaving the aftermarket plenty of room for improvement.

Every BMW I've owned has benefitted from an aftermarket screen.

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Just an observation - Seems that BMW would have noticed this would be an issue, especially as compared to the LT, and would have an OEM solution (with fit and finish comparable to the rest of the bike).

Also would be nice to have an in depth interview with some of the lead design guys to discuss their thinking about this and other issues. Not to beat them up but just to get some insight.
Every OEM solution is a compromise. The aftermarket allows you to customize and tailor to you.

Having said that, my 07 LT still has stock screen and seats. All I needed for long distance comfort was a bead rider and LDC underwear.

I had no issue with the GTL seat, other than bring too low, but wind and weather protection was another issue altogether. I won't repeat here as I provided an extensive write up back in 2013 after my two week GTL rental.

Suffice to say that the GTL has a different design goal than the LT. I view the LT as a luxury touring bike with a bent towards sport touring. Contrast this to the Wing which is luxury touring period, more at home on the interstate at 60 than the autobahn at 120 or a twisty mountain road. And, yes, I know that folks can push a Wing fast in the curves if they really work at it. I see the GTL as a sport touring bike with some consideration given to two-up luxury touring, but only a little more consideration than the GT.

Things such as less comfortable passenger seat and backrest, no passenger audio controls, removable bags and trunk, the latter which is butt ugly like the sport bike trunks, etc., make it clear that carrying a passenger is not a primary design objective of the GTL.

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carrying a passenger is not a primary design objective of the GTL.
I (still) disagree.

Carrying a passenger is not the primary goal of the GTL, but it was definitely right up there in the design criteria.

And the GTL Exclusive takes it just a step further.

No it's not an LT, and it never will be. For some, that remains a disappointment. For others, it's what makes the GTL special, and so much more fun to ride . . .

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I (still) disagree.

Carrying a passenger is not the primary goal of the GTL, but it was definitely right up there in the design criteria.

And the GTL Exclusive takes it just a step further.

No it's not an LT, and it never will be. For some, that remains a disappointment. For others, it's what makes the GTL special, and so much more fun to ride . . .
I thought you might.

I would like to see the original design goals for the GT/GTL. I bet passenger comfort wasn't in the top ten.

I don't ride as passenger so I can't assess personally. I have only one passenger that matters and she completely disagrees with you. For her, remember she is fairly tall, it is night and day going from LT to GTL. She didn't like the huge height difference between pilot and copilot seats, the huge amount of wind, the rain exposure, the seat comfort (lack thereof), the backrest comfort (ditto), lack of radio controls, hidden passenger grab rails, and the ugliness of the "tacked on afterthought" look of the trunk.

Yes, I realize some of these can be mitigated with yet more money, but the stock bike is what we test ride. And the stock GTL is WAY less comfortable for a tall passenger than is a stock LT. And stock it is less comfortable for a tall rider also and with almost no hand protection from wind and rain.

I agree with your last statement. The GTL had different design goals than the LT and will appeal to a different segment. And it does fix a number of design mistakes BMW made on the LT such as the dry clutch, slave cylinder, etc. I wish I could bring some of those over to the LT. Or better yet, bring the complete FJ1300A drive train over. That is one sweet engine and tranny compared to the LT or even the GTL. MUCH smoother fuel injection without the abrupt low speed transitions of every BMW I have ridden. But for now, then LT is the best compromise for two-up touring.

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I have the airflow windshield,wings, and winglets
It is a big improvement over the other shields i had.
5ft8in 29 inch inseam,
Not as good as my 09 RT but close.
I would buy again.
Hope this helps
I'm a tad shorter and both the Aero wings and mini wings works just fine at 90 mph! Wife is shorter than I am and she doesn't have any problems with buffeting. Ride on!

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