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Improving your gtl

What are the first three things you added to or changed on your gtl? I'm thinking I would need aero wings, a new seat, hwy pegs, and a new windshield just to start!

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First 3 things were
1) Hard wire into the Audio as the Bluetooth sucks
2) replace windshield
3) Add Aerowings

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Dealer had installed arm rests for wife *** A Must for her
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My blue tooth works very well, no issues at all (the sw was updated)

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1) Aux Fuel Cell
2) Car Tire
3) Ergonomic workup from my chiropractor

And that's how you run continuous thousand-plus mile days . . .

The K16 desperately needs some form of engine guard. Whether the factory option, or one of many aftermarket guards, that should always be your first purchase.

Every Beemer I've owned has needed a custom seat and windscreen, the GTL included. I have a Russell GT-style two-piece seat that sits me taller, and allows me to remove the rear section to fit the fuel cell. I also have the full AeroFlow windscreen and Wings setup for vastly improve air management. I then added Ilium highway pegs to my Wunderlich engine guards, and for really long trips, I have a set of Verholen peg extenders.

That pretty much covers the comfort stuff . . .

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First Engine Gards, NAV 5, Bag liners.
Then RKA Tank bag, New helmets with Cardo Bluetooth.

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First 3 things were
1) Hard wire into the Audio as the Bluetooth sucks
2) replace windshield
3) Add Aerowings
I prefer hard wired audio and intercom also. What did you use? J & M? Does the GPS talk through the hard wired audio? What helmet headsets did you choose?

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I prefer hard wired audio and intercom also. What did you use? J & M? Does the GPS talk through the hard wired audio? What helmet headsets did you choose?
I use Scala Rider G9, it has an Audio in port & comes with a short coiled 3.5MM double male cable to connect it to the bike. The GPS come though the bikes Audio. It turns the music down about 1/2 when the GPS promps come on.
I use a Shoei Multitec.

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I use Scala Rider G9, it has an Audio in port & comes with a short coiled 3.5MM double male cable to connect it to the bike. The GPS come though the bikes Audio. It turns the music down about 1/2 when the GPS promps come on.
I use a Shoei Multitec.
So you aren't using a hard wired connection to your headsets, just using an auxiliary BT unit, right?

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So you aren't using a hard wired connection to your headsets, just using an auxiliary BT unit, right?
I hard wired a 3.5mm jack into the bikes Audio. I Plug one end of the coiled cable into the bike & the other into the Scala.

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More horse power if you want to keep up with me.

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Below is what I have added. In order of importance:

1. Amber light conversion
2. CS Windshield
3. Engine Protection bars
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Amber running light conversion [email protected]

Suburban Machinery peg lowering http://www.suburban-machinery.com/

California Science Windshield http://www.calsci.com/

Schroedie Shop – Two-color BMW Emblem Indicator Lights http://schroedie.de/index.php?cPath=16

Rear Inertia brake flasher www.powersportinnovations.com Company not in business

Shifter Extender http://www.iliumworks.com

TLC Saddle bag Liners Top and Sides http://www.tlcproducts.com/

Flash to Pass Garage Door Opener www.F2ptechnologies.com

Stebel Nautilis Compact Air Horn

Handlebar covers Gripbuddies [email protected]

Backrest redone locally (removed the hump)

Map Case www.roadgear.com

RKA 3L Tank Bag http://www.rka

Side cases and Top Case Reflector Sheet [email protected]

Side Stand Foot Enlarger www.WunderlichAmerica.com

Air Hawk inflatable seat http://www.airhawk.net/ (beads and sheepskin occasionally)

Widder Heated Vest http://www.ibaestore.com/products

Side-Case C4 Protection tip over bars - $270.00

http://www.k1600forum.com/forum/bmw-...over-bars.html

Options That Came With The Bike

Garmin 660 GPS

Two (2) power leads to the battery

BMW Engine Protection Bars

BMW Fog Lights

BMW Top Case brake light

3M Bike Clear Coat & Headlight Protection Film

I replaced all of the chrome trim with black items - wind deflectors/handlebars, radiator cover

Left and right cluster switches replaced under warrenty.

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More horse power if you want to keep up with me.
Dave, the GTL is wickedly fast!

On my maiden voyage and it didn't take long before I passed a some HD riders and when I rolled the throttle I could have easily come off of the back of the bike as I was so used to the LT and now I have all of this power at my disposal.

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I hard wired a 3.5mm jack into the bikes Audio. I Plug one end of the coiled cable into the bike & the other into the Scala.
Ok, I think I got what you are doing. You are connecting a cable from the Jack you installed on the bike to the aux input on the Scala.

Two more questions:

1. Where did you two into the audio on the 1600?

2. From the Scala online manual, it appears the aux input is lowest on the priority list so almost anything else will interrupt directions from the GPS, no? Does this cause you any problems? On my LT the GPS is at the top of the priority heap, which is nice.

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More horse power if you want to keep up with me.
Did you turbocharge your LT?

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Ok, I think I got what you are doing. You are connecting a cable from the Jack you installed on the bike to the aux input on the Scala.

Two more questions:

1. Where did you two into the audio on the 1600?

2. From the Scala online manual, it appears the aux input is lowest on the priority list so almost anything else will interrupt directions from the GPS, no? Does this cause you any problems? On my LT the GPS is at the top of the priority heap, which is nice.
I used this from Autocom
& wired it into the speaker wires at the speakers so everything was hidden. Some have tapped into the wires at the Alpine unit under the seat. Then I use a 3 way female splitter to connect to my Scala wires & to my wives Wires.

When using the intercom you do not hear the GPS & I have missed a turn or two because of it.

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I have no issues with the Bluetooth, since I changed the helmet speakers (added gel pads around the BMW comm speakers in my C3).

Dealer threw in Nav V.

Like the LT, I have added about a little over $3K in farkles:

Auxiliary Brake Light (trunk) OEM - $215
Aeroflow Windshield - $279
Aeroflow Wings $134, and Mini-Wings $104
Aeroflow Headlight Cover - $139.95
Suburban Peg Lowering Kit - $190
Rick Mayer Saddle (leather) - $614
Grip Puppies - $8.95
Extenda Fenda - $30
PIAA Horn - $75
OEM Engine Guard - $325
Ilium Works Highway Pegs
BMR Co-Pilot Shelf - $215
Wunderlich Trunk Rack - $272
RocketMoto Washers (washers that come with Wunderlich rack suck!) - $35
RKA Tank Bag (with rain cover) - $194

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Bag liners and Nav V were part of the purchase deal.

I have Ilium highway pegs and an engine guard on order. Need to call Aeroflow and set up an appointment with a local guy to put some firmer foam in the seat.

If I can figure out how to keep the top box from moving so much I'll add a luggage rack.

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I see a "Quote" in three different posts above from a member called Katnapinn. In the quote they talk about installing a 3.5MM plug to hardwire your bikes audio but I do not see their post anywhere in this thread. When I try to search for post by that user name I get "Sorry no Match" but their names comes up in the search window automatically as I type it. I want to know how to do this to my bike as the Bluetooth sound is horrible at best. Why can't I fine any post about this from Katnapinn?

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Why can't I fine any post about this from Katnapinn?
Just a guess but I think he got banned by the Admin's for suggesting others to look at another mc site that is not run by the Admins.
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Just a guess but I think he got banned by the Admin's for suggesting others to look at another mc site that is not run by the Admins.
Just my $.02
Oh I see, I saw another thread by someone Dave something I think it was. (sorry bad with names) about some members here getting removed. I did not know this Katnapinn was one of them. Shame as I would like to know how to do the 3.5mm audio hook up to get rid of my bluetooth.
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Just a guess but I think he got banned by the Admin's for suggesting others to look at another mc site that is not run by the Admins.
Just my $.02
That's garbage, Steve is a valuable poster to this site, he also does a lot for CCR!

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I see a "Quote" in three different posts above from a member called Katnapinn. In the quote they talk about installing a 3.5MM plug to hardwire your bikes audio but I do not see their post anywhere in this thread. When I try to search for post by that user name I get "Sorry no Match" but their names comes up in the search window automatically as I type it. I want to know how to do this to my bike as the Bluetooth sound is horrible at best. Why can't I fine any post about this from Katnapinn?
I searched for Kat and found him with no problem. His last post as September 30th.

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Just a guess but I think he got banned by the Admin's for suggesting others to look at another mc site that is not run by the Admins.
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Just a suggestion, might want to do your own search before speculating. I found Katnapinn with a search on Kat. Easy peasy.

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Just a suggestion, might want to do your own search before speculating. I found Katnapinn with a search on Kat. Easy peasy.
I did a search for his name and found him. When I went to look at his postings, either newly created by him, or replied to, there was none, all gone!

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I see a "Quote" in three different posts above from a member called Katnapinn. In the quote they talk about installing a 3.5MM plug to hardwire your bikes audio but I do not see their post anywhere in this thread. When I try to search for post by that user name I get "Sorry no Match" but their names comes up in the search window automatically as I type it. I want to know how to do this to my bike as the Bluetooth sound is horrible at best. Why can't I fine any post about this from Katnapinn?
The long-term member/moderator, Katnapinn, has apparently been banned from this site. As an Administrator of this site, you would think that I would have received a notification of this action, along with a justification for the banishment; I have not, for this user or the others recently banned.

The Overlords do not operate this way. Before the site ownership changed, we had standard operating procedures in place, which detailed the rules/guidelines we as admins and moderators followed to determine if an "infraction" by a member met the standard of banishment; those no longer exist, or, I no longer have access to them.

In any event, based on my digging and investigation of the system functionality changes made by the Overlords, it was simply the act of sending a PM to member(s) with the mention of the new site by name.

They, the Overlords, have setup automatic word replacement of certain key words; as evidenced by the test post I posted above, and the follow up screen shot of the original post.

They, the Overlords, also receive a PM or Notification when any user's post or PM contain any of the "key words".

They, the Overlords, then unilaterally make arbitrary decisions based on the key word violation; resulting in banishment, with no regard to the user’s years of membership/moderation/administration or their contributions to this site.

In my not so humble opinion, the very real fact that the overlords take it upon themselves to arbitrarily edit or delete post and Private Messages of the membership is repugnant. The fact that they feel that this is appropriate behavior, or an appropriate and proportional response to the simple mention of another web site, competitor or not, speaks volumes about their fundamental lack of understand and appreciation of this community of members.

They purchased the site strictly because of the number of active members, the enormous number of posts, and the value these two factors play in monetizing the site. No consideration for the quality of content, the dedication of the membership to the community or the long and deep technical knowledge base present in this site; all of which they are systematically deconstructing.

P.S. I'm amazed they have allowed the thread to continue.
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I searched for Kat and found him with no problem. His last post as September 30th.
I'm not sure what or where you found a post from Katnapinn but when I go to "Advance Search" and start typing KATN the full name pops into the search window which tells me that person or at least that user name is a member of this forum. Now when I hit search I get the following message...

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Dave Dragon thanks for explaining this to me. I guess I should have found this site a few years ago when I first bought my BMW. I wonder how many good post and their authors have been removed by the overlords as you call them. Sorry that was a rhetorical question. I'm just trying to get some help in making my bike better & the hard wiring on the audio looks to be the best way but not I do not know where to look. A search brought up nothing. Maybe I go try the k1600Forum ?!?
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I went to the K1600forum (I joined the other day) & low & behold Katnapinn is still active on that site. Will at least he posted yesterday morning, Here is a cut & paste of his hard wire of the bike if anyone want to know how to do it.

I guess I'll be standing more time over there picking his brain on things to do with my bike.

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To get around spending big bucks on making the bike bluetooth work.

Not wanting (Wife will not let me) to spend another $2200.00 on new helmets & comm systems I did a simple wired upgrade to my GLT. First I pulled both speakers and the right panel covering the tank. I then took a 3.5 mm cable like THIS ONE & cut off the male end. I attached the wires from the cable to the speaker wires inside the speaker box. Note the cable is a 3 wire (2 + & 1 -) so only 1 of the 3 wires went to the left + speaker wire the other 2 connect to the right speaker. I then ran the cable above the tank to under my seat, attached a splitter cable like THIS ONE & ran one female plug up in front of the seat & the other one to the left side of the rear part of the seat.

My Scala G4 has an audio in port and came with a "Coiled" 3.5 mm cables. Just plug one end to the bike & the other to the Scala & we have music to the helmets. you only need to turn the music up to 1 bar on the bike & can adjust the level at the bike or the Scala. I can hear the GPS prompts over the radio so I paired my phone to the Scala so I can hear it ring & make calls with the Scala. I had the phone paired to the GPS then the GPS to my Scala but could not hear the phone ring. If I was not looking at the GPS I would miss the call.

Very simple way to get the music to my helmet & only cost about $10.00

Here is the Color codes for the speaker wires

Left speaker
yellow / Black stripe +
Yellow / red stripe -

Right speaker
Blue / Black stripe + (mine was solid blue no stripe but dealer manual shows a stripe)
Blue / red stripe -
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This behavior of the administration is unacceptable!!!

Gues how much money I will be sending in now???

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I did a search for his name and found him. When I went to look at his postings, either newly created by him, or replied to, there was none, all gone!
Wow, right you are. I thought the OP meant he wasn't listed as a member. My bad!

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The long-term member/moderator, Katnapinn, has apparently been banned from this site. As an Administrator of this site, you would think that I would have received a notification of this action, along with a justification for the banishment; I have not, for this user or the others recently banned.

The Overlords do not operate this way. Before the site ownership changed, we had standard operating procedures in place, which detailed the rules/guidelines we as admins and moderators followed to determine if an "infraction" by a member met the standard of banishment; those no longer exist, or, I no longer have access to them.

In any event, based on my digging and investigation of the system functionality changes made by the Overlords, it was simply the act of sending a PM to member(s) with the mention of the new site by name.

They, the Overlords, have setup automatic word replacement of certain key words; as evidenced by the test post I posted above, and the follow up screen shot of the original post.

They, the Overlords, also receive a PM or Notification when any user's post or PM contain any of the "key words".

They, the Overlords, then unilaterally make arbitrary decisions based on the key word violation; resulting in banishment, with no regard to the user’s years of membership/moderation/administration or their contributions to this site.

In my not so humble opinion, the very real fact that the overlords take it upon themselves to arbitrarily edit or delete post and Private Messages of the membership is repugnant. The fact that they feel that this is appropriate behavior, or an appropriate and proportional response to the simple mention of another web site, competitor or not, speaks volumes about their fundamental lack of understand and appreciation of this community of members.

They purchased the site strictly because of the number of active members, the enormous number of posts, and the value these two factors play in monetizing the site. No consideration for the quality of content, the dedication of the membership to the community or the long and deep technical knowledge base present in this site; all of which they are systematically deconstructing.

P.S. I'm amazed they have allowed the thread to continue.
Wow! This site still has the best K1200LT experts, but if this is the policy of the new regime, then I will soon be outta here also. Any chance to get the folks who run the 1600forum that katnapinn is now active in to create one for the old LT?

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Wow! This site still has the best K1200LT experts, but if this is the policy of the new regime, then I will soon be outta here also. Any chance to get the folks who run the 1600forum that katnapinn is now active in to create one for the old LT?
From what I was told the same people own both this & the K1600 forum. I can't confirm this but it is just what another member told me.
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From what I was told the same people own both this & the K1600 forum. I can't confirm this but it is just what another member told me.
That would make removing katnapinn even more illogical. Why would you not want high member counts on both forums if you own both?

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DaveDragon nailed it.

When a site like this is taken over by a for-profit group whose main focus is "monetization" then all that matters is member numbers and post counts, which can be sold to advertisers and thus translated directly into dollars.

Quality of posts, or even individual members no longer matter, as they don't fit into the monetization spreadsheet. Over time, the quality and quantity of posts and members decreases as the remaining members figure this out and move elsewhere.

I give the site founders, admins, and mods a lot of credit for creating and nurturing this site into what it has become - the premier source for K1200LT information, and a massive social group with some pretty damn impressive charity contributions.

And I understand how this hobby could overwhelm those who keep it running, and how the offer of another group to come in and take over the day-to-day administration of the site could be quite tempting.

But once you give up that control, then you pretty much have no say in the matter anymore when policies change, even become draconian in the almighty pursuit of profit. All you can do is get the word out about these underhanded "banishments" and let people decide for themselves if it's something they want to continue to support or not . . .

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Fear not all the resident knowledge is alive and well and if we disappear from this site you can find us over at Y o u r i d e . u s ( I typed that in secret code so as to not fall prey to the spambots and overlords).

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That is a pretty good code ... I'm still trying to decipher it. Must be too obvious...
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I guess my days are limited too as I've also mentioned the other site. A shame because I feel like this site (K1200LT) used to be worthy of an annual contribution. The previous site, and this new "improved" one definitely made the difference as to my keeping the K1200LT for 8 years.

I've communicated with Steve from time to time, on this site and through PMs and each was positive and a learning experience. The only loss by banning him will be to the members of this site, not Steve.
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Not that I disagree with the concerns over losing Katnapin (I miss him, too) but I wanted to mention my additions to my GTL: I immediately added Ilium guards and pegs plus a Nautilus horn. Then, over the last 2 years (mine is a 2012)I added a Corbin seat w. backrest, a Cee Bailey windshield (with centr controlled vent) adjustable handlebars, RKA tank bag (invaluable) the updated Garmin GPS. The bike, after 37K miles (to Alaska and back and around the USA, to Canada and back) now needs a new transmission (aluminum shavings in the oil) and water pump (surprise, surprise). Otherwise, it has performed beautifully in sunshine and snow and rain. Yes, I used to ride a 1200LT ('03) and loved it but love my 1600 more.
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