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Cut-out 30 mm socket to lend?

Hi Everyone,
I'm about to dive into my '06 to change the clutch. I have most of the parts, with the rest on their way.

I was wondering if any of you tech gurus would be willing to loan me the 30 mm cut-out socket for the swingarm & FD pivots? I would be willing to pay shipping, etc.

Please e-mail me or call me at 425-516-3750.

TIA

George

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Hi Everyone,
I'm about to dive into my '06 to change the clutch. I have most of the parts, with the rest on their way.

I was wondering if any of you tech gurus would be willing to loan me the 30 mm cut-out socket for the swingarm & FD pivots? I would be willing to pay shipping, etc.

Please e-mail me or call me at 425-516-3750.

TIA

George
Hi George! Long time no see.
I have one, with the modified allen wrench. If no one closer replies, PM me your address.

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Hi Everyone,
I'm about to dive into my '06 to change the clutch. I have most of the parts, with the rest on their way.

I was wondering if any of you tech gurus would be willing to loan me the 30 mm cut-out socket for the swingarm & FD pivots? I would be willing to pay shipping, etc.

Please e-mail me or call me at 425-516-3750.

TIA

George
Given the two-way shipping cost, almost as cheap to buy one and then you have it for future use. A member here had a local high school shop class make me one. Cost was $20 for pizza, so I sent him a little more than that to cover the shipping. Worked great on my FD rebuild last year and will get used again for my certainly inevitable clutch rebuild that most likely will occur thus coming winter.

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I'm here in central Oregon and can ship you mine. But I agree with voyager. They're very simple to make, and as I unfortunately learned, it's good to have it laying around. I've used mine more that I care to mention.
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Re: Cut-out 30 mm socket to lend?

Another solution...

I bought one on Amazon for $20.54. It's identified as Swinging Arm Bearing tool (4740) for BMW and includes a 30mm socket with the window cutout and the internal 12mm Hex key to hold the internal nut in place while tightening the outer. Good quality and it worked well. Probably costs just a bit more than the shipping back and forth from a borrowed unit.

Just another option, Good luck with the repair!

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Re: Cut-out 30 mm socket to lend?

OK. I actually have a 30 mm 1/2" drive socket. It's a black, impact type. I also have a 3" disc grinder and several Dremel tools. I guess I could just make my own. Having a mill would be nice, but I don't know anyone around here with one of those.

Thanks everyone. I'll keep you posted.

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I built my own, even though I had previously bought the tool off an Ebay seller. A few of things I didn't like about the Ebay tool, it's a 12 point socket and very tall which makes it easy to slip off the 30mm nut, and the window cut in the side to allow allen wrench access limits how far the socket can be turned before it hits the allen wrench.

After using the Ebay one I decided to make my own. I bought a black 6 point 30mm socket off Ebay, cut off the back end and welded an old half inch sock to the side. Using this tool does require adjusting the torque wrench setting to include an additional 1.25 inches in length to the torque wrench. This tool works much better than the Ebay one as it is much shorter, has 6 points instead of 12, and does not interfere with the allen wrench no matter how much the socket is turned. Cost less than $10.00 to make and an hour or so of my time.
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OK, true confessions time:

When I did the motor swap on my '01 I didn't have the tool and was in a hurry. Since the torque setting on the jamb nut is MFT, (mother f#$king tight), I just held the pin with an allen wrench and put all I could get on the nut using a 30 mm box end wrench.

I know it wasn't the "right" way to do it, and I was actually kind of relieved that I totaled the bike 30,000 miles later so I didn't have to worry about that nut coming lose!

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After using the Ebay one I decided to make my own. I bought a black 6 point 30mm socket off Ebay, cut off the back end and welded an old half inch sock to the side. Using this tool does require adjusting the torque wrench setting to include an additional 1.25 inches in length to the torque wrench. This tool works much better than the Ebay one as it is much shorter, has 6 points instead of 12, and does not interfere with the allen wrench no matter how much the socket is turned. Cost less than $10.00 to make and an hour or so of my time.
Easier than making the calculation, or looking it up in in a chart, is to put it on the torque wrench so that it is at 90 degrees to the wrench handle. That way the error will be small enough to be insignificant. That is the way crow foot wrenches are normally used with torque wrenches.

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Easier than making the calculation, or looking it up in in a chart, is to put it on the torque wrench so that it is at 90 degrees to the wrench handle. That way the error will be small enough to be insignificant. That is the way crow foot wrenches are normally used with torque wrenches.
Yes, zero error is small enough to be insignificant.

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Yes, zero error is small enough to be insignificant.
The error is not zero, but it is not very significant either, unless the wrench that is at 90 degrees is LONG.

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The error is not zero, but it is not very significant either, unless the wrench that is at 90 degrees is LONG.
Yes, if the assumption of rigidity no longer holds. If the arm at 90 degrees to the torque wrench is rigid, then there is zero error.

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Thanks to all who offered help on this. I think I'll be cutting my socket today!

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