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Coolant additives

Is there anyone who uses or knows if it's good to use water wetter or super coolant? Supposedly water wetter makes engines run 20% cooler by reducing bubbling. They use it in racecars, on tracks were coolant is $$ to cleanup. Is it ok to use on the LT?

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Re: Coolant additives

It is my understanding that if you already use coolant/distilled water mix, the water wetter will have little or no additional benefit as ethylene glycol already acts as a surfactant, breaking surface tension of water.

Those products were made for track usage where coolant is prohibited (leaks or wrecks would leave extremely slippery conditions) so they need something to improve the cooling efficiency of plain water.

That said, it should not hurt anything to use it in your bike (except your wallet).

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Re: Coolant additives

Well. What about this claim of adding it to coolant and engine running 20% cooler?

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Well. What about this claim of adding it to coolant and engine running 20% cooler?
First, I doubt this claim and would need to see some real data to believe it.

Second, running cooler only matters if your engine is running way too hot. Engines need to run at a certain temp to be efficient, generally in the 185 to 200 range. Running below 180 is generally a bad deal! That is why engines have thermostats.

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First, I doubt this claim and would need to see some real data to believe it.

Second, running cooler only matters if your engine is running way too hot. Engines need to run at a certain temp to be efficient, generally in the 185 to 200 range. Running below 180 is generally a bad deal! That is why engines have thermostats.
+1.

And - don't freak out if your temp gauge starts rising while stopped, and even if the fans kick in. Completely normal on the LT.

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+1.

And - don't freak out if your temp gauge starts rising while stopped, and even if the fans kick in. Completely normal on the LT.
Yep, if the fans are working and temps aren't in the red zone ... Don't worry; be happy!

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Yea. know all about the LT getting a little hot before fans kick in. But as long as they do all is good.

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Well. What about this claim of adding it to coolant and engine running 20% cooler?
How can an additive override the opening point on the thermostat and why would you want to change that? No need to add anything if it is operating normally and if it isn't then the source of the trouble should be found an corrected. Sorry just a pet peeve of mine. Now I ran Water Wetter in my MGB because despite the 160 degree t-stat it would run a pretty consistent 190 degrees.

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How can an additive override the opening point on the thermostat and why would you want to change that? No need to add anything if it is operating normally and if it isn't then the source of the trouble should be found an corrected. Sorry just a pet peeve of mine. Now I ran Water Wetter in my MGB because despite the 160 degree t-stat it would run a pretty consistent 190 degrees.

There are the temps for the LT.
It won't override the t-stat, but if it really makes the coolant transfer heat magically, then maybe the block would transfer heat so well that the t-stat never fully opens.

I am also in the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" camp. I'd have to have a really compelling reason to use anything other than the recommended coolant mix.

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