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post #1 of 7 Old Apr 3rd, 2014, 1:08 am Thread Starter
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I am a week from formally closing the deal on my first BMW, 2000 K1200LT, but first an introduction. I was bitten by the long distance rally bug in 2013, and soon realized my current mount (Road King) wasn't the right tool for the job. After researching various long distance bikes, I decided BMW best suited my needs. Soon after, I stumbled across a fully farkled LT with 96K miles for what I considered a steal - $3000. It had a full dealership maintenance history and the pictures of it were pristine. A very well serviced and ridden LT.

I am now in need of advice. The owner woke the LT from its winter hibernation and took it to the dealership for fresh oil. During the outing, the ABS did not pass the startup diagnostics test as indicated by the ABS lights flashing. In our email exchange, this is the third time in its history the ABS has indicated a failure. The first two events were corrected with a system reset by a dealer. I have read with great interest the ABS threads, but I don't remember a GS-911 tool being a means to clear an ABS error indication. Can a simple reset correct the indication or am I possibly going down a very expensive repair path if I proceed with the purchase.

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post #2 of 7 Old Apr 3rd, 2014, 3:11 am
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it may be ok its up to you, cheaper is not always better. the tool does reset the fault code and there is a written procedure on the site if you don't have one, if you buy it be prepared to spend up to another 2 grand to repair the abs, I guess I am saying you may as well look a bit longer and buy a better newer one for 5 grand
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I agree that you may want to find a 2005 or newer with lower miles as these years saw many upgrades. Also at 96,000 if the FD, clutch, brake lines, etc have not been replaced recently that may be your next big cost along with the ABS. Good Luck
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the advantage of the 2000 is that it does not have the servo power brake ABS combination unit - if the ABS fails on the 2000 you still have normal braking - not so on the ones with power brakes - something to consider

if it is cold sometimes the battery gets dragged down low when starting the bike then my ABS does not self test and lights flash - at end of driveway, move 100 feet, shut down restart and ABS OK - the ABS module on the 2K can be repaired

the power brake module is extremely expensive

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As noted above you will still have brakes on a Y2K, just not ABS (that's the boat I am in now). If you proceed with the purchase, assume that the ABS is dead, because if it isn't it probably will be soon if there has been a history of it going out - there's probably a gremlin in there working its way out.

Module Masters rebuilds them for about $350 and I have heard good things, I plan to ship mine off to them after I try the home remedy for piston stuck (if it doesn't work). Otherwise you can probably pick up a used one with no guarantee of function for $500 - $600, if you're at all handy with a wrench and screwdriver it isn't a particularly complex project and the whole thing probably wouldn't take more than a day for a shade tree mechanic.

I would probably tend to toss my hat in the 2005+ ring even though that servo-assist braking system scares wits out of me; the other advancements like the EHCS and steering geometry are a nice bonus. And one other small thing, the instrument cluster is better because it has all the computer / radio data in the middle, that would be a welcome advancement - not a big deal, but just one of those daily things you will find you use and in a more convenient location (plus I think the button for the computer controls is in a better location too).

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There is a company that can repair your model ABS, Module Masters, and iirc the cost was around $400.00. Do a search for module masters and you should find a couple happy customers. HTH

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There are several different reasons for the ABS failure lights to flash. The 2K model like was previously stated will brake normally even without the ABS module working.
The later years with the power assisted linked brake abs system...a real pain in the wallet if it fails, has to be fixed before you can ride the bike. Did the owner make note of the failure, or was this something the Dealer indicated? I have a 2K also, and have had the failure when my battery was low. I mean there was enough juice to kick it over and start, but not enough to make the ABS happy, also like was already stated, drove it down the road a ways, stopped, turned off the key and back on, restart the bike and it worked perfect. low brake fluid will do it, abs sensor on the wheels misaligned or damaged will cause it also. My bet would be needs a new battery, probably sat on a trickle charger all winter. This bike is very sensitive to low battery voltage. At 3K for the bike, you can get a lot of enjoyment out of it.
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