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04 K1200 LT Clutch Fluid Flush???

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My dealer says the clutch fluid on my 04 k1200 lt needs to be flushed every 16 months. He also said the cost is about $1400. I saw a video on Utube that made it look pretty easy. I cant imagine why the heck it would cost so much! What do you guys think? Im sure somebody out there has done this. Thanks in advance.

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Hello All,

Im new to posting on here so forgive if me im posting this wrong....
My dealer says the clutch fluid on my 04 k1200 lt needs to be flushed every 16 months. He also said the cost is about $1400. I saw a video on Utube that made it look pretty easy. I cant imagine why the heck it would cost so much! What do you guys think? Im sure somebody out there has done this. Thanks in advance.

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Your dealer is right the clutch should be flushed, and the brakes. The clutch is about a 15-20 minute job. The brakes take a lot longer, at least the first time you do them.

If he wants $1400 for the clutch, that is about $1200 over what it should cost, if they are doing both the brakes and clutch, that is about $600 over.

In either case you need another dealer. HTH

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Fly me over from Oz, I'll do it for nothing and you will have change :0)

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I've just come back from doing it at my storage locker. It is almost as easy as it is in the video. It took me a couple of hours because someone who owned the bike before me had lock tighted the piece together where I could have just let it drained. But I just went the, remove the grub screw and push stopper way. It took longer but it's done. There is a big difference, clutch is as smooth as silk.

Can't see how it would cost that much to do, hope you have another dealer somewhere close by that's a little more honest. Hate to see how much a brake flush is

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Your dealer is right the clutch should be flushed, and the brakes. The clutch is about a 15-20 minute job. The brakes take a lot longer, at least the first time you do them.

If he wants $1400 for the clutch, that is about $1200 over what it should cost, if they are doing both the brakes and clutch, that is about $600 over.

In either case you need another dealer. HTH
Thanks John. I'm pretty sure the dealer gave me the price for both brakes and clutch but still...way too high. I'm going to take it on myself. Thanks for the feedback!

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I've just come back from doing it at my storage locker. It is almost as easy as it is in the video. It took me a couple of hours because someone who owned the bike before me had lock tighted the piece together where I could have just let it drained. But I just went the, remove the grub screw and push stopper way. It took longer but it's done. There is a big difference, clutch is as smooth as silk.

Can't see how it would cost that much to do, hope you have another dealer somewhere close by that's a little more honest. Hate to see how much a brake flush is

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Thanks Tross! I'm sure now that the $1400 quote must have been for both brakes and clutch but still way too many $! I'm going to take it on myself. Worse comes to worse I can bribe my nephew who is a wyotech grade to help me.. Still that would probably only cost me a half case of beer. Lol Thanks for your reply! This forum is really great!

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Thanks Tross! I'm sure now that the $1400 quote must have been for both brakes and clutch but still way too many $! I'm going to take it on myself. Worse comes to worse I can bribe my nephew who is a wyotech grade to help me.. Still that would probably only cost me a half case of beer. Lol Thanks for your reply! This forum is really great!

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Are you sure it wasn't for a full 24K service? Add in filters, fluid changes, spark plugs, valve check, etc., and $1400 isn't so bad when you consider the time involved.

Having done this myself once now, I have a much better appreciation for why this costs so much at a dealer. Took me an entire weekend of work and two weeks of lost riding waiting for the 4 buckets I needed.

Is 16 hours of labor and two weeks lost riding worth $1,400? You have to make the call.

I will be faster the next time, but I can't imagine getting it all done in less than 12 hours if you have to pull the cams.

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Fly me over from Oz, I'll do it for nothing and you will have change :0)
Hi Axel,
Tempting offer considering a plane ticket from the southern hemisphere is probably close to what the dealer charges. Too bad you didnt live closer I could pay you with beer & BBQ. LOL

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Are you sure it wasn't for a full 24K service? Add in filters, fluid changes, spark plugs, valve check, etc., and $1400 isn't so bad when you consider the time involved.

Having done this myself once now, I have a much better appreciation for why this costs so much at a dealer. Took me an entire weekend of work and two weeks of lost riding waiting for the 4 buckets I needed.

Is 16 hours of labor and two weeks lost riding worth $1,400? You have to make the call.

I will be faster the next time, but I can't imagine getting it all done in less than 12 hours if you have to pull the cams.
Hello Voyager,
Yes all other maintenance is up to date. My bike has 49k on it. Just changed the oil and brake pads but the clutch and brake fluid flush is about due. Im pretty sure that the dealers quote was for both brake and clutch but still seems a bit high. Im going to tackle it myself. Worse comes to worse I have a nephew who is a wyoteck grad who can be bribed with beer. I was warned when I bought my k1200 last year about maintenance costs but this is the best bike ive ever ridden so I think it is worth it.

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Yes all other maintenance is up to date. My bike has 49k on it. Just changed the oil and brake pads but the clutch and brake fluid flush is about due. Im pretty sure that the dealers quote was for both brake and clutch but still seems a bit high. Im going to tackle it myself. Worse comes to worse I have a nephew who is a wyoteck grad who can be bribed with beer. I was warned when I bought my k1200 last year about maintenance costs but this is the best bike ive ever ridden so I think it is worth it.

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That is way high for just brakes and clutch, which is why I suspect they may have been quoting more service items.

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I can see where voyager is coming from, the service guy see's the mileage of your bike, assumes you know nothing and when you ask for the clutch flush he quotes you the 48k service. You could try giving them a call and ask for a quote on just a clutch flush for you bike and see what they say. It could be just a mistake, and if your happy with the dealer otherwise it would be ashame to write them off over a misunderstanding.


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Are you sure it wasn't for a full 24K service? Add in filters, fluid changes, spark plugs, valve check, etc., and $1400 isn't so bad when you consider the time involved.

Having done this myself once now, I have a much better appreciation for why this costs so much at a dealer. Took me an entire weekend of work and two weeks of lost riding waiting for the 4 buckets I needed.

Is 16 hours of labor and two weeks lost riding worth $1,400? You have to make the call.

I will be faster the next time, but I can't imagine getting it all done in less than 12 hours if you have to pull the cams.
If the dealer did all of that work, you would have still had 4 weeks of lost riding as they ordered the buckets and waited around. Dont think that dealers have a magic stash of parts that they can get quicker.

Plus you did it yourself and know it's right. I dont trust Dealer's to actually do it right, I have seen more friends bikes just slapped back together by a "professional" at the dealership that I question that they even hire people that know how to use wrenches.

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If the dealer did all of that work, you would have still had 4 weeks of lost riding as they ordered the buckets and waited around. Dont think that dealers have a magic stash of parts that they can get quicker.

Plus you did it yourself and know it's right. I dont trust Dealer's to actually do it right, I have seen more friends bikes just slapped back together by a "professional" at the dealership that I question that they even hire people that know how to use wrenches.
I think the better dealers have a decent supply of buckets on hand.

I agree about the quality. That is the main reason I do my own work. My last dealer visit resulted in two stripped fairing screws, wrong length screws in the wrong places and they forgot to put the reverse knob back on and I didn't notice it until I got home ... 120 miles away. They had to mail it to me. Decided not to return again to that dealer.

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If the dealer did all of that work, you would have still had 4 weeks of lost riding as they ordered the buckets and waited around. Dont think that dealers have a magic stash of parts that they can get quicker.

Plus you did it yourself and know it's right. I dont trust Dealer's to actually do it right, I have seen more friends bikes just slapped back together by a "professional" at the dealership that I question that they even hire people that know how to use wrenches.


It's those dreaded words for the parts guy "Sorry but it's coming from Germany" that make me cringe every time

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Absolutely THE reason I made the videos!
Im so glad you made the videos! They have been a huge help on several occasions. Nicely produced and so informative! I really appreciate it.

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Absolutely THE reason I made the videos!

Thanks for the time and effort that you put into these videos. With the manual and vids it just makes it so much easier. Saved me a lot of money by doing most of the 24k service myself. Plus I got to know the bike way better.

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I think the better dealers have a decent supply of buckets on hand.

I agree about the quality. That is the main reason I do my own work. My last dealer visit resulted in two stripped fairing screws, wrong length screws in the wrong places and they forgot to put the reverse knob back on and I didn't notice it until I got home ... 120 miles away. They had to mail it to me. Decided not to return again to that dealer.
If the dealer had a supply on hand then why did they "punish" him and make him wait 4 weeks for them to arrive?

And yes any dealer forgetting anything on a bike reassembly should never get your money again. That is plain old sloppy work, a honest dealer would have apologized profusely, and offered to send someone to replace the knob or offer to mail it and give you a "free" oil change next time.

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If the dealer had a supply on hand then why did they "punish" him and make him wait 4 weeks for them to arrive?

And yes any dealer forgetting anything on a bike reassembly should never get your money again. That is plain old sloppy work, a honest dealer would have apologized profusely, and offered to send someone to replace the knob or offer to mail it and give you a "free" oil change next time.
What part of "better" dealer didn't you understand?

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My next service cost about AU$11,000 +parts....


But then I did buy a 2nd bike so I could still ride while the LT's stripped down. :-)


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What part of "better" dealer didn't you understand?
Better dealers are a myth! Like Bigfoot and little green aliens..

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