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05 LT NAV2 to NAV4 Install Was Plug and Play!

Well the procrastination beast finally left my house and I started working on my winter project. I reviewed the info on removing the Tuppeware and everything went like clockwork. Took about two hours to get everything off and do the install. Had a pleasent surprise in that my 05 Lt wiring was a simple plug and play in transitioning from a NAV2 to the 4. The power and wire connectors included with the kit were simple replacement and did not need the extra wire connector I had bought for $115 from BMW. My ride came from the dealer with the NAV 2 installed. Only trick was figuring out how much to remove to get down below the stingray. I removed the two screws from the underside front of the stingray that allowed me to easily pull the old NAV2 wires out and push the 4s thru. Connections were the same so lucky me! Haven't put it all back together yet except for reattaching the Stingray. Now to move on to the valve check and oil change and maybe an HID install. Not today though as the golf course is beckoning! The Beast is back!

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post #2 of 7 Old Mar 8th, 2014, 11:10 am
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Well the procrastination beast finally left my house and I started working on my winter project. I reviewed the info on removing the Tuppeware and everything went like clockwork. Took about two hours to get everything off and do the install. Had a pleasent surprise in that my 05 Lt wiring was a simple plug and play in transitioning from a NAV2 to the 4. The power and wire connectors included with the kit were simple replacement and did not need the extra wire connector I had bought for $115 from BMW. My ride came from the dealer with the NAV 2 installed. Only trick was figuring out how much to remove to get down below the stingray. I removed the two screws from the underside front of the stingray that allowed me to easily pull the old NAV2 wires out and push the 4s thru. Connections were the same so lucky me! Haven't put it all back together yet except for reattaching the Stingray. Now to move on to the valve check and oil change and maybe an HID install. Not today though as the golf course is beckoning! The Beast is back!
Are you saying the Nav 4 came with the proper cables with nothing extra to buy? Does it attach to the stingray mount? I have a Nav 3 on my 07 and would like to upgrade. Do you have the VOICE II intercom?

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My 05 LT came with the Comm II system with the newer radio and bMW NAVII from the dealer. It has the round selection dial on the unit. The NAVIV has a different cradle and connection wires then my old NAVII which is the same for a NAVIII however, the NAVIV cradle mounts directly to the Stingray in the Same fashion as the II or III. When I removed the Stingray (just detached it but did not need to disconnect anything but just lifteed and turned it over on iTS side) I was able to disconnect the old NAVII cable and pull it out thru theSingray GPS mount. I then fed the new cable in and then one by one disconnected the three old ends of the cable and plugged in the new NAVIV cable. It was completely plug and play. Have not yet played sound thru the system since bike is still apart and but the power function works perfectly with keyed powere or if key is turned off the GPS runs on internal battery. Will try some Music later today after I load some to the GPS as well will try the GPS simulation mode. Not sure if this mode is just visual or includes sound. I do not have Bluetooth but wired J&M headsets so this is another variable.

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My 05 LT came with the Comm II system with the newer radio and bMW NAVII from the dealer. It has the round selection dial on the unit. The NAVIV has a different cradle and connection wires then my old NAVII which is the same for a NAVIII however, the NAVIV cradle mounts directly to the Stingray in the Same fashion as the II or III. When I removed the Stingray (just detached it but did not need to disconnect anything but just lifteed and turned it over on iTS side) I was able to disconnect the old NAVII cable and pull it out thru theSingray GPS mount. I then fed the new cable in and then one by one disconnected the three old ends of the cable and plugged in the new NAVIV cable. It was completely plug and play. Have not yet played sound thru the system since bike is still apart and but the power function works perfectly with keyed powere or if key is turned off the GPS runs on internal battery. Will try some Music later today after I load some to the GPS as well will try the GPS simulation mode. Not sure if this mode is just visual or includes sound. I do not have Bluetooth but wired J&M headsets so this is another variable.
That is good to know. If you think about it once you get thing back together, I'd appreciate hearing if everything works as you expect from an integration perspective. Have fun!

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Ok so the good news and the bad news. I've confirmed what others before me seem to have also determined. Even though the connections all match in the cables and wiring harness the NAVIV connected to my 05 CommII will let me hear directions thru the wired headset but not thru the speakers while music plays from the bike system and the media player on the IV will only stream music if you are paired to it via bluetooth headsets not wired. So only a 70 / 30 solution. I have music via radio or IPod via my DICE unit and voice directions only thru headset not speakers. Dammm! Still a workable solution just not optimal. I wonder what is different since from what I've determined an 07 or newer bike that came with theNAV IV does it all speakers as well as headset or is this not the case? Any word from someone who has a IV that was delivered that way from the dealer?

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Ok so the good news and the bad news. I've confirmed what others before me seem to have also determined. Even though the connections all match in the cables and wiring harness the NAVIV connected to my 05 CommII will let me hear directions thru the wired headset but not thru the speakers while music plays from the bike system and the media player on the IV will only stream music if you are paired to it via bluetooth headsets not wired. So only a 70 / 30 solution. I have music via radio or IPod via my DICE unit and voice directions only thru headset not speakers. Dammm! Still a workable solution just not optimal. I wonder what is different since from what I've determined an 07 or newer bike that came with theNAV IV does it all speakers as well as headset or is this not the case? Any word from someone who has a IV that was delivered that way from the dealer?
I am pretty sure that my Nav III only speaks through the headset. And only the rider headset at that. I wish my wife could hear so she could better help look for things when in congested areas. I think this is a limitation of the intercom system rather than the GPS, but not 100% sure on that point.

Sounds like your Nav IV is equaling what my Nav III does. I'd love to find a way to channel the GPS audio through the speakers and passenger headset, but have yet to find a way to do that.

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Ok so the good news and the bad news. I've confirmed what others before me seem to have also determined. Even though the connections all match in the cables and wiring harness the NAVIV connected to my 05 CommII will let me hear directions thru the wired headset but not thru the speakers while music plays from the bike system and the media player on the IV will only stream music if you are paired to it via bluetooth headsets not wired. So only a 70 / 30 solution. I have music via radio or IPod via my DICE unit and voice directions only thru headset not speakers. Dammm! Still a workable solution just not optimal. I wonder what is different since from what I've determined an 07 or newer bike that came with theNAV IV does it all speakers as well as headset or is this not the case? Any word from someone who has a IV that was delivered that way from the dealer?
I realize this is a two year old thread, but I am wondering if you have any pictures of the connections under the stingray? In particular, of the two-pin connector.

My Nav V harness has a different connector that my Nav III so it isn't plug and play, unless there is another currently unused connector hidden under the stingray somewhere that will fit this Nav V style connector (bottom right in the picure - the one with the blue "eyes"). I have not as yet found any such unused connector.
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