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post #1 of 18 Old Sep 15th, 2013, 9:31 pm Thread Starter
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Stripped threads. Now what??

Hi, all!

In the process of removing my front fairing bracket (which the previous owner bent on a deer) I discovered that the lean-over bar on the left side was effectively only attached by one bolt. The rear bolt was in its hole but only barely. The threads on the bolt appear to be OK, so it looks like the threads in the very expensive cast block of metal are stripped.

What's the best/easiest way to deal with this? Am I stuck moving to a larger size bolt and cutting new threads?

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post #2 of 18 Old Sep 15th, 2013, 9:45 pm
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Re: Stripped threads. Now what??

Right off the top of my head, you could go to the next size metric bolt and drill and tap that out of that doesn't present a problem. Also you might consider cleaning the interior of the hole well with brake cleaner and then alcohol and Q-Tips to be sure it's clean and dry and then tape the back side of the hole and then pack it with well mixed JB Weld and let that set up. An then drill and tap it for the present size hole.

Anyway, that's what I would do, the JB Weld part,as it really seems to work well on lots of things. Good luck and keep the Ole '99 running. I'm still riding mine and working on the 'new' '07.
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Re: Stripped threads. Now what??

That's the perfect application for a thread insert.

Install one of these with some red Loctite and you're done.

http://www.timesert.com/html/kitsinserts.html

That, or just get a longer bolt and put a nylon insert nut on the back side, if there's room.


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Re: Stripped threads. Now what??

I've not seen that time set kit, but it looks very similar to the heli-coil method of repair. I've done 4 or 5 stripped thread repairs on my '01 thanks to ham fisted techs.
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Re: Stripped threads. Now what??

can you get a slightly longer bolt and put a nut on the backside?
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Re: Stripped threads. Now what??

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can you get a slightly longer bolt and put a nut on the backside?
What he said...

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Re: Stripped threads. Now what??

What fpmlt said. Been using these for industrial applications for years http://www.rivetsonline.com/thread-repair-kits.html easy to put and can take more ham fisting than the alloy ever could
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What fpmlt said. Been using these for industrial applications for years http://www.rivetsonline.com/thread-repair-kits.html easy to put and can take more ham fisting than the alloy ever could
Timeserts is the way to go. Far better than anything else.

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Re: Stripped threads. Now what??

What the Hell, I'll put on the red suit and hold the pitchfork.

In the absence of a factory authorized repair procedure to be completed by an authorized service center, any damage to the frame will require the replacement of the frame and the destruction of the original frame.

Down here in Florida an insurance adjuster will total a bike and issue a 'Certificate of Destruction' if the frame has so much as a scratch on it.

Suit off Timesert or Helicoil that damage and get that bike and you on the road!

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Re: Stripped threads. Now what??

Thanks for the great suggestions.

I guess I'll get the bike totaled.

Ha! Just kidding! It already had a salvage title when I bought it.

Anyway, I will think about whether I want to spend $60 to do it right or $5 to fix it quick and dirty. Hmmmmm.

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Re: Stripped threads. Now what??

Another simple way that I have used for temporary fix is to wrap bolt thread with a few strands of copper wire and thread it in. But for long term I'd fill with JB Weld and drill and tap.
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Re: Stripped threads. Now what??

Chase the hole with a tap, then "paint" the bolt with JB Weld. Insert and let cure, back the bolt out and re-insert for final torque. Use a very light coat of JB Weld - less is more.


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That's the perfect application for a thread insert.

Install one of these with some red Loctite and you're done.

http://www.timesert.com/html/kitsinserts.html

That, or just get a longer bolt and put a nylon insert nut on the back side, if there's room.
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Thanks for the great suggestions.

I guess I'll get the bike totaled.

Ha! Just kidding! It already had a salvage title when I bought it.

Anyway, I will think about whether I want to spend $60 to do it right or $5 to fix it quick and dirty. Hmmmmm.
Your choice! You have several "do it right" suggestions and several "kludge it" suggestions. Your bike; your call!

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I don't know everyone is so in love with JB Weld. It ain't magic.
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Magic only comes in black, occasionally white, but never grey.
It ain't bad stuff though.

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I don't know everyone is so in love with JB Weld. It ain't magic.
I think it is great stuff for a temporary, emergency repair. Those who use it when a permanent repair can easily be made completely baffle me.

I grew up on a farm, so I understand the need to Jerry rig now and then. I am an engineer now so kludgey repairs just aren't my thing when doing it right is not that much more work.

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Re: Stripped threads. Now what??

For this application either Timesert or Helicoil. Whichever you can get easier. I prefer Timeserts for more critical repairs, especially for those areas that control fluids.

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