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Angry K1200 Fuel Leak

My 2003 LT with 32000 mile developed a fuel leak while on the freeway. I took it to the dealer and found out it was the quick disconnect on the outlet side of the fuel tank. I was told they started using these in 2000. They told me I might want to carry one as a spare as this was the 8th one this summer they have fixed. There is no recall at this time, how many of us are out there?
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Took my 2002 LT to Bob's BMW here in Maryland and they replaced the fuel line disconnect under a recall during my 6K service. Call Daryl at Bob's and he will give you the particulars that you can give to your dealer.

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Found a small puddle of fuel on the floor below my bike, purchased May 05.
Took it to the dealer and the culprit is part nº 13.
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It had developed a small blister.
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Re: K1200 Fuel Leak

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My 2003 LT with 32000 mile developed a fuel leak while on the freeway. I took it to the dealer and found out it was the quick disconnect on the outlet side of the fuel tank. I was told they started using these in 2000. They told me I might want to carry one as a spare as this was the 8th one this summer they have fixed. There is no recall at this time, how many of us are out there?
My Bike developed a leak this weekend, it's a 2005 K1200LT. Uncovered and found the quick disconnect also. I will not leak while engine is off, but while running....WOW, lost 1/2 a tank of fuel.
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Re: K1200 Fuel Leak

Do away with the quick disconnects. They will always be a problem. Put in brass splices and hose clamps. If the tank has to be pulled later it can drained by having another short peice of hose ready and a gas can and pan under the area. Just pull the hose off of the outer fitting on the bottom of the gas tank which is the return line. That will drain almost all the tank with minor spillage. When you remove the inner hose which is the preasurized side take it off slowly and catch the spillage in a pan. Wear safety glasses and old clothes when doing this.

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Re: K1200 Fuel Leak

Or replace the crappy plastic ones with the ones sold here by beemerboneyard.com.
I have to remove the tank when performing maintenance or installing wiring for new farkles and I really like having the quick disconnects.

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Do away with the quick disconnects. They will always be a problem. Put in brass splices and hose clamps...
Is there any risk that the splices would decrease the volume of flow causing any problems? Have my LT apart doing a load of things to it and want it back together now for the perfect weather but one of the male QD's is broken, dont want to wait for the replacement to get ordered and arrive - I want to ride!!!
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Is there any risk that the splices would decrease the volume of flow causing any problems? Have my LT apart doing a load of things to it and want it back together now for the perfect weather but one of the male QD's is broken, dont want to wait for the replacement to get ordered and arrive - I want to ride!!!
As long as you don't use something really really small it should not matter, the system is pressurized. Take a close look at the internal size of the QD's that broke, that should tell you how small you can go and still be Ok.

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I happen to love the cheap quick connects. That is exactly how i got my loaded 05 with 12,000 miles for only $7,000!! I replaced mine with good metal QD's with the viton oring and have not had a problem since.
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Is there any risk that the splices would decrease the volume of flow causing any problems? Have my LT apart doing a load of things to it and want it back together now for the perfect weather but one of the male QD's is broken, dont want to wait for the replacement to get ordered and arrive - I want to ride!!!
The simple brass pipe has no valves or anything to block the flow of fuel. If you get the correct size to fit the hoses, there will be no issues. That's what I did for my 2000 LT and did it all for about $5.

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Is there any risk that the splices would decrease the volume of flow causing any problems? Have my LT apart doing a load of things to it and want it back together now for the perfect weather but one of the male QD's is broken, dont want to wait for the replacement to get ordered and arrive - I want to ride!!!
No problem with flow, but keep in mind that you don't want to cross the two. If you look, one disconnect goes "left to right", the other "right to left". Helps keep things straight. If you bypass the disconnects, you'll need to mark the lines for the correct re-installation.
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Is there any risk that the splices would decrease the volume of flow causing any problems?
No risk as it was that way on earlier models before quick disconnects became the standard.

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Re: K1200 Fuel Leak

Thanks for the sound advice as usual guys - going with the quick fix for now and will order the fancy QDs from beemerboneyard for the next time I am in there working on stuff. I think I am going to leave the QD on the one line that is still working fine and just put a new o-ring on, that way there is no chance of crossing the lines, which would be mucho bad
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Thanks for the sound advice as usual guys - going with the quick fix for now and will order the fancy QDs from beemerboneyard for the next time I am in there working on stuff. I think I am going to leave the QD on the one line that is still working fine and just put a new o-ring on, that way there is no chance of crossing the lines, which would be mucho bad
Just one caveat... if one QD failed, how much longer before the other fails also?
I would suggest replacing both and color code your lines (using colored zip ties for instance). An ounce of prevention is better than an ounce of fuel on your pants... .

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The male half is what fails. The hollow shaft under the O-ring is machined too thin and gives out. You can replace just the male half with metal or you can go all metal on both. Either way will work.


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Just had these delivered today: http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/c...ne_Disconnects


I had a set on my 2005 also.

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Do away with the quick disconnects. They will always be a problem. Put in brass splices and hose clamps. If the tank has to be pulled later it can drained by having another short peice of hose ready and a gas can and pan under the area. Just pull the hose off of the outer fitting on the bottom of the gas tank which is the return line. That will drain almost all the tank with minor spillage. When you remove the inner hose which is the preasurized side take it off slowly and catch the spillage in a pan. Wear safety glasses and old clothes when doing this.
Sice someone revived a 7 year old thread... Do what Zippy said and use the brass quick disconnects. You have to take off the tank from time to time, and these make it easier on both you AND your fuel lines!

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Do away with the quick disconnects. They will always be a problem. Put in brass splices and hose clamps. If the tank has to be pulled later it can drained by having another short peice of hose ready and a gas can and pan under the area. Just pull the hose off of the outer fitting on the bottom of the gas tank which is the return line. That will drain almost all the tank with minor spillage. When you remove the inner hose which is the preasurized side take it off slowly and catch the spillage in a pan. Wear safety glasses and old clothes when doing this.

Cheap to elimanate the pressure side quick disconnect. I'm not spending that kind of money for a silly convience of a quick coupler. I can siphon all but a dribble of gas out of the tank should I need to remove it.....which is seldom.
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Make sure you check all the other connections while you're in there. Mine leaked fuel only when it was cooler weather. I got the brass quick connects from Beemer Boneyard installed and there was still a leak. Turned out to be one of the other fuel line connections. Tightened it up and no problems since.
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I had a set on my 2005 also.

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Ghost Rider Leak- 2003 K1200LT very low miles

Went to the grocery store and on my return I smelled fuel. I thought it was the car in front of me so I passed. Still smelled fuel and started noticing liquid blowing up on the right side of my bike. Looked down and my right boot was soaked and it was splashing up my pant leg. Needless to say I beelined for the shoulder, turned off the bike and quickly got away from it. Thanks goodness for no sparks or I would have turned into a ball of flame.

Anybody had a similar experience?
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Ghost Rider Leak- 2003 K1200LT very low miles

Went to the grocery store and on my return I smelled fuel. I thought it was the car in front of me so I passed. Still smelled fuel and started noticing liquid blowing up on the right side of my bike. Looked down and my right boot was soaked and it was splashing up my pant leg. Needless to say I beelined for the shoulder, turned off the bike and quickly got away from it. Thanks goodness for no sparks or I would have turned into a ball of flame.

Anybody had a similar experience?
No, as I read about the issue with the OEM QDs and bought a set from RPW and changed them the first time I had the opportunity. No problems at all in 4 years.

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Very common issue that has been covered many many times here over the years but it ought to be required reading when you register on this site.

The factory used plastic quick disconnects (QD) on the fuel lines and the male end is what cracks. It is hard to pull them apart without a little lateral stess, that fractures the male end over time. BMW now only sells a metal male end. The female side is still good. Some have replaced both with brass QDs altogether.

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sorry to have troubled you with the question. I wasn't aware that there was required reading to ask questions on this forum or that I was to have known every question ever previously asked on this website.

I guess with your experience traveling to every state in the nation I should automatically assume you are absolutely correct knowing without doubt that my problem was a defective QD.

I again apologize for asking a question that someone asked before me. If I ask another previously asked question in this forum, I fully hope that you will please ignore my question as I definitely do not want to waste any of your time. BTW, thanks for making an infrequent user to this forum feel so welcome, it almost makes me want to go out and purchase a Goldwing.
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sorry to have troubled you with the question. I wasn't aware that there was required reading to ask questions on this forum or that I was to have known every question ever previously asked on this website.

I guess with your experience traveling to every state in the nation I should automatically assume you are absolutely correct knowing without doubt that my problem was a defective QD.

I again apologize for asking a question that someone asked before me. If I ask another previously asked question in this forum, I fully hope that you will please ignore my question as I definitely do not want to waste any of your time. BTW, thanks for making an infrequent user to this forum feel so welcome, it almost makes me want to go out and purchase a Goldwing.

Man hang around and ask old questions all you want..I do..lol.
I see old threads sometimes for answers to my probs but yet when I do ask anyhow sometimes there are new ways to deal with things and I get updated info.
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Ghost Rider Leak- 2003 K1200LT very low miles

Went to the grocery store and on my return I smelled fuel. I thought it was the car in front of me so I passed. Still smelled fuel and started noticing liquid blowing up on the right side of my bike. Looked down and my right boot was soaked and it was splashing up my pant leg. Needless to say I beelined for the shoulder, turned off the bike and quickly got away from it. Thanks goodness for no sparks or I would have turned into a ball of flame.

Anybody had a similar experience?
I did - I did. I went to the grocery store!!

C'mon, Stephen - lighten up. John's post wuzn't sarcastic - your reply is. There is 13 years of experience socked away in this forum - some topics get hashed over and over and over. A neat feature on the forums, that is available for anyone to use, is the 'search' function. Not foolproof, butt definitely there for several reasons. Provides a member with a quick way to gather info about a situation without having to wait for a response from another member; and decreases the obvious bandwidth incurred by repetitive threads. You may remember when you first signed on to the forums, and read the guidelines for participation, you read this:
Search the Archives: Use the forum search feature or one of the major internet search engines BEFORE you ask your next question. Being asked the same old question over and over is very irritating. By not taking the time to search the archives or make a search of other internet resources BEFORE asking the group is like saying, "my time is more valuable than yours, so I'm just going to ask here instead of looking for it myself".

Given the right attitude in using the forums' wealth of knowledge, every one has the opportunity to make a favorable contribution herein, and you gotta know it is welcomed on each individual forum category. Best always, Stephen - hope to meet you somewhere in the Hill Country or at one of the tech sessions that take place in the 'hood or during a visit to Lone Star.
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sorry to have troubled you with the question. I wasn't aware that there was required reading to ask questions on this forum or that I was to have known every question ever previously asked on this website.

I guess with your experience traveling to every state in the nation I should automatically assume you are absolutely correct knowing without doubt that my problem was a defective QD.

I again apologize for asking a question that someone asked before me. If I ask another previously asked question in this forum, I fully hope that you will please ignore my question as I definitely do not want to waste any of your time. BTW, thanks for making an infrequent user to this forum feel so welcome, it almost makes me want to go out and purchase a Goldwing.
No need to apologize I was trying to inform with out chastizing - I guess I failed. Please feel free to ask as many questions as you need, I will be happy to answer them. You will not be the last one here to be surpized by a fuel leak from the QDs. There will be many more to follow you I am sure of it.

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sorry to have troubled you with the question. I wasn't aware that there was required reading to ask questions on this forum or that I was to have known every question ever previously asked on this website.

I guess with your experience traveling to every state in the nation I should automatically assume you are absolutely correct knowing without doubt that my problem was a defective QD.

I again apologize for asking a question that someone asked before me. If I ask another previously asked question in this forum, I fully hope that you will please ignore my question as I definitely do not want to waste any of your time. BTW, thanks for making an infrequent user to this forum feel so welcome, it almost makes me want to go out and purchase a Goldwing.
Giving proper respect to your original question Steven, no I have not had a fuel leak in more than 50K LT miles. But, apparently you are not the first, and as John advised you, the most common cause of fuel leaks reported on this forum has been the OEM quick disconnects.

I have never met jzeiler but every time I see he has posted a response anything on any subject, I read it, having seen him prove over and over again that what he has to say is valuable, knowledgeable and offered in a spirit of helpfulness. I like that.

I will be sure to look for your further posts as well Steven because I love good sarcasm and you have shown that you are very good at it. Please stay with us on this forum Steven. And if you really want a friendly and helpful discussion, you might try espousing the virtues of your favorite motor oil. But then I already told you that I loved sarcasm.

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And yet here I am reading it and rolling around in laughter. Sarcasm or humor I like it either way. I joined this forum to find out where my oil filter was And think of all the time I wasted before turning the bike upside down trying to find it. I was sure of only one thing when I bought it, it had a filter. I have had a Kawasaki 1000 and GW1200 and changed oil on both and I 'm still not going back. I just keep reading and riding.
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Those same crappy QDs fail on the RTs as well. Just replaced a set last night. It's interesting to me that BMW spec'd these out and then sells the "fix" for 30 bucks apiece. The best part is that the same company makes the all metal fittings which are interchangeable with the plastic ones.


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Another important difference when considering the options for replacement is the O-Rings.

The BMW factory disconnects and replacements recommend replacing the o-rings every time they are taken apart. The Jiffy-tite's have Viton o-rings which don't have this requirement. Seems like every time I'm into the bike for something I'm removing the fuel tank. For me, these were worth the extra $$ just to not worry about fussing with the o-ring replacement and not having to drain the tank every time.

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sorry to have troubled you with the question. I wasn't aware that there was required reading to ask questions on this forum or that I was to have known every question ever previously asked on this website.

I guess with your experience traveling to every state in the nation I should automatically assume you are absolutely correct knowing without doubt that my problem was a defective QD.

I again apologize for asking a question that someone asked before me. If I ask another previously asked question in this forum, I fully hope that you will please ignore my question as I definitely do not want to waste any of your time. BTW, thanks for making an infrequent user to this forum feel so welcome, it almost makes me want to go out and purchase a Goldwing.
Way to go, junior. You join a new forum, apparently spend no time learning anything about, ask a question to which John gives you a very good answer (and which was not sarcastic at all), and you respond with a juvenile post dripping in sarcasm. Had you spent any time here just reading the posts or, better yet, done any searching at all, you would have quickly learned that John is one of the most prolific and helpful members of this forum. And, in what your second post, you poke a stick in his eye!

If you are half a man you will respond with an apology. If you aren't and don't, then I suspect you are Gold Wing material and should give that forum a try.

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My question was if anyone had a similar "experience" not problem. Not what was wrong with the bike. It is pretty obvious it was a fuel leak. It was quite unnerving to be coated with gas.

The second "many" in jzeiler's post made it obvious that he was quick to get irritated at a question that he thought he had answered before and suggesting that there should be required reading to join the site.

I should be more careful how I ask questions on this forum.

I do thank zelier for a suggestion on where to look for the leak.

It was also messed up that he assumed that I had not read this thread before posting which had multiple references to QDs. No searching archives required..

If QDs are such a common problem one would think that there should be a recall. I am guessing that most of you would agree that being soaked in gas is a potential safety problem.

And you are suggesting that I apologize....for what?
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Tsk,..Tsk, seems like some need to grow their hide a little thicker John, which can only help with these damned uncomfortable stock seats. . In Oz, those people would take their bat 'n ball and go home.

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Semantics can be very interesting.... I didn't read John's post as addressing a person, but as addressing a problem and a solution (awareness)... :
"but it ought to be required reading when you register on this site" with "it" being the issue of breaking Quick disconnects, and "you" being a general reference to anybody.
I note that John didn't actually "quote" the previous poster who got a little irate...

And I agree, there are many such issues that new members would possibly be very grateful for (or very afraid of) if they were directed to a list of "potential issues with the LT" or whichever bike when they first join....

might save a damn lot of searching... but then I guess a lot of that is in the Hall of Wisdom... if you search for it...


oh, and to keep it on topic, yes, I changed to metal disconnects before it became an issue.
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Thanks for all of the interesting tips on my current fuel leak. I will look into changing the parts at the dealer.
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