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post #1 of 17 Old Sep 14th, 2013, 9:25 am Thread Starter
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Emergency "Help!"

Dang, dad-burn, shoot and even Ka-Ka! I know those are strong words but well deserved. Changeing the oil this morning and the K&N 163 filter, the one with the nut on bottom, rounded and I can't remove the filter. I used a 6-point socket and tapped it on to get good, tight fit. I'll answer your first answer,"no I don't have the factory oil filter removal tool!" Don't think I can hammer a screwdriver in because of the oil filter being recessed. Looks like I'm grounded till I can order the "proper" oil filter removal tool. Anyone have a suggestion to get me out of this problem for now? Thanks

P.S. Who has the best deal on the proper oil filter tool?

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I think I would change the oil and leave the old filter in and go riding. Order an oil wrench and buy a torque wrench.

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Drill two holes into the filter and use a spanner wrench to get it out.

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Ron, does the K&N filter have flutes around the bottom? If it does, and you have an extra K&N, take it to an O'Reilly or Autozone and find a filter wrench that fits those flutes. I don't know how much that K&N nut will allow the fluted filter wrench to make contact with filter flutes, butt it might. Good luck.
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Drill two holes into the filter and use a spanner wrench to get it out.
If you don't have a spanner wrench, two self-tapping sheet metal screws can also work.

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I think I would change the oil and leave the old filter in and go riding. Order an oil wrench and buy a torque wrench.
After looking at the filter, it doesn't have the dimples in the end so a filter wrench won't work anyway. My next oil change will "not" be a K&N-163! I'm going back to conventional filters.

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Ron, does the K&N filter have flutes around the bottom? If it does, and you have an extra K&N, take it to an O'Reilly or Autozone and find a filter wrench that fits those flutes. I don't know how much that K&N nut will allow the fluted filter wrench to make contact with filter flutes, butt it might. Good luck.
No flutes! I finally got the old filter out by using a big screwdriver and driving it into the filters' end and using the nut a a fulcrum point to back it off. Whow, what a cluster dance! 4 hours to do an oil change and oil costing $6 a quart!

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If you don't have a spanner wrench, two self-tapping sheet metal screws can also work.
I'll put a mental note, "again," in my brain about the sheet metal screws. Thanks

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The filter wrench I use is the same one I bought for my HD Deuce. Metal, thin, tough and.....CHROME! Plus it's loud.
Seriously, does work better than any other oil filter wrench I have. Uses a 3/8th" socket drive.
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And when none of the above works, borrow or buy a ChannelLock #460. Then, reach in there and grab hold of the filter, crush it, and twist it out. The satisfaction of brute force......

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No flutes! I finally got the old filter out by using a big screwdriver and driving it into the filters' end and using the nut a a fulcrum point to back it off. Whow, what a cluster dance! 4 hours to do an oil change and oil costing $6 a quart!
Glad you were able to get it out.
Now the question is: why was it so tight to round off the nut?
Oil filters only need to be installed hand-tight. Hard to reach in with a hand on the LT to tighten it, but there is absolutely no need to crank down on the wrench when installing it. Just 1.5 to 2 turns more after the seal first contacts.
And of course, be sure to lube the sealing ring with oil.

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Ron,

I just noticed your situation and glad you got it worked out. Finger tight.... Not Gutentight!

I thought I still might have my LT oil wrench but checked and it was gone. I must have given it to the new owner.

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Ron, order this: http://www.beemerboneyard.com/11421460845ckk.html

You will be set for 36,000 miles.

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Just 1.5 to 2 turns more after the seal first contacts.


Sorry but this is BAD information.........

About 3/4 turn from time oring contacts sealing surface. AT the very max 1 turn and you will fight with it on removal

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Just 1.5 to 2 turns more after the seal first contacts.


Sorry but this is BAD information.........

About 3/4 turn from time oring contacts sealing surface. AT the very max 1 turn and you will fight with it on removal
+1. Anything more than one full turn is way too much. Never saw a recommendation for 1.5 or more before.

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Hey Ron

If you still need a oil filter wrench send me a PM. I no longer need my wrench since I traded in the LT for an RT.

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Hey Ron

If you still need a oil filter wrench send me a PM. I no longer need my wrench since I traded in the LT for an RT.
Dennis. Received the oil filter wrench in the mail today! Thank you very much and maybe I can "pay it forward" to someone else in need. That said, I do have an old BMW windshield that I was trying to give away in the one of my other postings. So if someone needs one it's boxed up and ready to ship. Has some scratches but no cracks!

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