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post #1 of 35 Old Sep 12th, 2013, 6:53 pm Thread Starter
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Thought of the day, exhaust mod

Ok, as some of you may have gathered by now I'm a young lad. That being said quite is not my forta.

Has any one cut and kinda gutted the muffler to get a little more sound out of this all round wonderful bike? I'm thinking cut and gut the recap with a new end to make it more pleaseing to the eye and ear.

Just getting an idea before I bust out the cutter and welder
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Interesting that you post this question. Been wondering the same thing. In the Honda VTX world (my other ride), people worked out where to drill a stock muffler to give it a better sound. But with the risk to what is a quite expensive muffler, I'm not so keen to be the guinea pig, so I've not done it. I haven't ever read of this being done, only seen Remus exhaust installs.

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I have to make a few mor measurements but I have a danmoto can from my 600 that has a bigger angled outlit, and the can looks a hair bigger around than the stock can so if my thinking is right I can cut the stock can about 5 inches and take the back off the dm can pull a little packing and pop revet it all together. I'm putting the cbr back together on Saturday and pulling the BMW down Tusday if all the measurements are right ill do it and post a small write up with sound clips. I just can't bring my self to buy a pipe for 1300 new

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May sound better, may look better, but will not run better. Leave the thinking of power being directly proportional to noise to the HD boys. And the reason for the tail pipe being directed at the ground - no recirculation of fumes around the back of the bike. Everything has a reason, just not always apparent or easily understood.

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It will still be angled at the ground, and I'm not looking for more power she has plenty for what she is, if I want to go fast ill get on my rocket but I want a little sound and the pipe to come out of the gard and then angle down. But thank you for your input ill make sure that the angle stay the same as to not make problems with the fumes
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Re: Thought of the day, exhaust mod

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In the Honda VTX world (my other ride), people worked out where to drill a stock muffler to give it a better sound.
The O'l "Clayton Mod", been there, done that too. What you got to remember is that modifying the silencer was just the start. I had a 1300, making the exhaust freer flowing, caused the need to modify the carb and a few more things. I see that you've got a 1800, so it's got fuel injection. Hopefully the computer modified the fuel curve, or maybe you installed aftermarket programing. Not sure if the LT would compensate or not.



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Re: Thought of the day, exhaust mod

On the fuel mapping I was able to find 4 other treads with guys running the Remus that didn't chip it and they didn't report any issues other than it being louder than they wanted it.

Any other ideas or for see able issues that I might have missed any and all feed back is welcome and will be taken into acount
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Why bother? It's not a race bike. It's not a sport bike. And gutting the can won't change that. Prob'ly will suffice only to make bystanders think you're too cheap to afford a new muffler on your touring bike. Just sayin'.

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Re: Thought of the day, exhaust mod

Honestly that's my only gripe about this bike is that it's quite. I'm just looking for some sound. And your right I am cheap because I can't see myself dropping that much on a pipe. Not when I can build on for well under half the cost.

That being said its not a sport bike and it won't be raced. But it could sound better. As far as looking cheap the only part of the can you will be able to see when it's done it the carbon fiber.

But I do see your very valid point and if it turns out shoddy ill just buy the Remus and be done with it.

That being said what was said about the 1st Jensen 2212 mod? That it would look cheap because people was to cheap to by a 2nd market radio to replace it? Or was it hey that's a grand idea lets save some cash? Just sayin
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The last motorcycle rally around here, (Bike Time in Muskegon, MI) there was a guy on an LT that looked like it was thrown off a cliff it had so much damage, and a windshield that was cut down to just above the dash. he had a large straight pipe with no muffler. Certainly louder than all the harleys but not in a good way.

Our engines sound horrible, Think of honda civic with rusted out muffler sound. The only way you are going to make it sound "cooler" is to engineer a muffler that will get rid of the horrible flat 4 car engine sound it makes. Maybe a honda fart can with a resonator would help.

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I rode Harleys for years loud, louder, and ear splitting,I bought this BMW because it was quite.The loudest thing on the bike is my MP3 player pluged in to the cassette player . Where and how are ya'll putting the maps on your posts whit the color for the states you've rode I would like to do that also.
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Re: Thought of the day, exhaust mod

I have the Rhine West chip and Remus exhaust on my LT. I would be happy if it was quieter actually. On long trips, even with ear plugs, that rumble can get annoying. Do what you want, but for my money any rise in dB output should come with a corresponding performance boost. Noise for the sake of noise is a boondoggle.

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maybe you two can make a trade?
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order the Remus exhaust system and get it chiped..............save the original and put it on eBay..................$00.02



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Our engines sound horrible, Think of honda civic with rusted out muffler sound.
This was my assumption, BUT if OP wants to try it out, why not? Obviously, the prudent-minded on this board are correct to point out potential problems/issues, but if he is going into this fully informed, more power to him (well not really more power, but you know what I mean).

In the interest of full-disclosure, I put an aftermarket under-seat exhaust on my Triumph Sprint ST because it was "too quiet" also, but that exhaust also opened up the right side of the bike to show off the single swing-arm. And, even with the additional power that produced, the decision was mostly aesthetic. Further disclosure, I just bought a Harley Fat Bob after years (YEARS) of saying I'd never own one. One factor in the decision.... I like the sound.

Let the experimenters experiment. I'm too chicken to do it, but take full advantage of those of you who do and post the results here. Maybe we (or some other newer member) can learn what modding the LT exhaust really ends up sounding like.

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Why not just crank up that killer stereo you're putting in?

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Why not just crank up that killer stereo you're putting in?
The sir is a good question, one I can only answer with I like my cake but I like to eat it to.

Ok update took some measurements today my plan as it is is a no go the heat shild is in the way and I can find a way to cut it that would look good . On that note ill be looking for a used Remus or ill buy a new one, would rather a used lol.

Thank y'all for the input and comments as it more than likely saved a major mess up on my end, I'm going to keep looking for a way to mod it but till then or the Remus ill be stock
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Honestly that's my only gripe about this bike is that it's quite.
Quite what?

Do you mean quiet?

Seems a little incongruous to change this on an LT discussed in a "luxury touring" forum. Would you put glass packs on your Mercedes? Cherry bombs? Are you going to put a cigar-smoking woodpecker decal on your saddlebag?
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I did help put a set of flows on a late 90's slk 500, it really depends on the Benz that you are speaking of, there was a land rover that I owned that did end up with a 28 in glass pack though. And yes they were cherry bombs and I loved them.

Bottom line what I'm trying to say is some times it takes different strokes for different folks.
Do you have a black truffle scone and a spot of herbal tea before you ride or do you saddle up and let the miles stack up?


As far as the saddle bag sticker I was thinking about putting "my other ride is your mom", but I think the woodpecker is more classy

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I have the Rhine West chip and Remus exhaust on my LT. I would be happy if it was quieter actually. On long trips, even with ear plugs, that rumble can get annoying. Do what you want, but for my money any rise in dB output should come with a corresponding performance boost. Noise for the sake of noise is a boondoggle.

I hate to be a bother but could you post a sound clip of how your bike sounds? If you would that would be a great help.

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I did help put a set of flows on a late 90's slk 500, it really depends on the Benz that you are speaking of, there was a land rover that I owned that did end up with a 28 in glass pack though. And yes they were cherry bombs and I loved them.

Bottom line what I'm trying to say is some times it takes different strokes for different folks.
Do you have a black truffle scone and a spot of herbal tea before you ride or do you saddle up and let the miles stack up?


As far as the saddle bag sticker I was thinking about putting "my other ride is your mom", but I think the woodpecker is more classy
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I used to take clothes pins to attach baseball cards to the down tubes and position the cards so that they flapped against the spokes on my byclcle. :-))

Directional mic, mono amp, waterproof speaker?

a fewe people have commented they didn't like the increased noise from the aftermarket pipes.

Consider running at the RPM where one hears the "Fine-Whine".

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I'm afraid you have stumbled upon the wrong bike for you and possibly the wrong site.

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I'm afraid you have stumbled upon the wrong bike for you and possibly the wrong site.
Wrong bike? Not sure about that one but the wrong site, that's a maybe though, just have to keep my mod ideas to myself that's all.
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Nah, new blood that can handle themselves with a good retort makes it more fun around here. Also loved that comeback post..... a cracker response kept tongue-in cheek, without being disrespectful. . ..........except maybe to someone's mother.

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I was able to purchase a used Remus on this site, not to long after I bought my LT and liked the sound. It really wasn't much louder than the stock sound, just a little different, until she hit those higher rpms. If you are looking for a louder bike at low speeds or less, then stay away from the Remus. You really won't notice much. I didn't add the chip, so maybe that will make a difference.

As some have said, the bike is for riding and wasn't designed as a sound machine. For the most part, BMW engineers know what they are doing and any major modification will keep you tinkering!

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if you picked up a used exhaust you could cut the muffler off after the collector and weld on a pipe extension then use a sport bike muffler, some are chromed, remount the heat shield and altho the motor does not rev to 13K it should sound similar to any other 4 cylinder, never going to have the bass sound of a twin, do not know what is inside the stock system but the LT is louder than the K1100 I had when rev'd

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You can keep your remus exhaust and any other loud one for the LT, but I will take one of those stickers...

No, not the woodpecker one.

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And don't forget the Oxygen Sensor threaded into the OEM exhaust - the Motronic kinda likes that sensor feed, no matter exhaust brand.
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I have thought about recording a loud bike or dragster and just putting it in the cassette player just to annoy the Harley guys.
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I have thought about recording a loud bike or dragster and just putting it in the cassette player just to annoy the Harley guys.
I don't know how many would actually be pissed off, but it would be rather funny.

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Quite what?

Do you mean quiet?

Seems a little incongruous to change this on an LT discussed in a "luxury touring" forum. Would you put glass packs on your Mercedes? Cherry bombs? Are you going to put a cigar-smoking woodpecker decal on your saddlebag?
If I owned a BMW M5 or a Mercedes SL550? You bet I would put the loudest performance muffler system on it. Anything to scare the snot out of the ricer kids with stick on vents and wings and make the corvette owners cry.

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Wrong bike? Not sure about that one but the wrong site, that's a maybe though, just have to keep my mod ideas to myself that's all.
Don't let them bother you. Its your machine. If you want to cut the pipes off, paint flames on it and install a set of knobbies...go for it. Personally, I think the best thing to do is just get a bike for every occasion. My loud bike is a bobbed 79 GL1000.
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I hate to be a bother but could you post a sound clip of how your bike sounds? If you would that would be a great help.

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If I can figure out how to do it, I'll post it. Not sure it will help much, based on the relative skill of the recorder & poster.

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