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LT noise

A while ago I posted about a noise sounding like it was coming from the front of the bike. We went to the Springfield Mile over the weekend and the noise got quite loud on the way home. There was also fluid on the rear wheel. I pulled the drain plug on the final drive and I found it so full of bright shiny stuff that you couldn't even see the tip of the plug. Looks like a repair job is in my future.
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Re: LT noise

That's a real bummer.

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I am sorry to hear about that Marty ;John or Dave I am sure can fix you right up,
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Re: LT noise

Yep, don't ride it until it's fixed or you risk progressive damage. Right now it's probably just a shim adjustment and new bearing.


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Re: LT noise

Don't fret if done with friends and tool worthy associates its an $89 bearing, a $32 seal with
some $6 shims and very little time or effort. Many write ups here on the board. Maybe visit
Countryside BMW (Chicago) so you can get a 15% discount online.

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Not handy or mechanically inclined then try John Zeiler or others to rebuild it for you.

Once the silver pieces show up stop riding and get it fixed . . .

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Re: LT noise

The bearing & seal are priced right $89.47 & $31.90 but the last shims I bought were $13.94.

When the drain plug has that many metal flakes I also take the pinion area apart to properly clean the the FD. It's about an 8 hour rebuild for me.

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Re: LT noise

Hey Marty,

Good catch!!! My FD not only blew out it's guts, but also took out the rear brakes. As others suggest, don't ride until repaired.

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Re: LT noise

Jer and Marty looks like you guys will not be coming to the campout;but really you guys got me wondering if I should be looking for something different for Wheels

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Jer and Marty looks like you guys will not be coming to the campout;but really you guys got me wondering if I should be looking for something different for Wheels

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Hey Gary,

My FD issue happened to me 6 years ago. No problems, at all, since. No, I still won't be camping. Sorry, been a long time since I've slept on the ground. Now, laying on a Lake Michigan beach under the stars is as close as I get.

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Re: LT noise

Help is on the way. Thanks guys.

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I take it your not going to fill us in what help is coming;buy the way are you going for breakfast tommorrow
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No secret. Saddleman is going to rebuild it for me. As soon as I get the socket I will get it off and send it to him. Thanks Dave,

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I disassembled Marty's FD today. The factory preload was .005" & was only .001" over spec. and is probably why it went so many miles before it failed. The crown bearing had 8 bad ball bearings & both the inner & outer bearing races had a lot of spaulding. The needle pinion bearing race had moved & was riding on the FD housing. Here are some pic's. Pic 2 is the needle bearing before repair & pic 3 is after repair.
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Re: LT noise

Dave, you may be able to clarrify for me - I have written previously that my pinion needle bearing inner raceway appeared to have moved away from the pinion face by approximately 1mm. Noted this during crown bearing replacement, however, looking at your 2 pics it may be that I didn't notice the inner race does not abut the pinion face, rather there is a small land which is proud of the pinion face and the raceway rests on that. Can you please confirm this for me as it's not quite visible on the pics due to the angle they were taken. I may not have a displaced inner raceway (yet) if this is the case. Also, on the 8 bolt holes in the alloy casing, does anyone apply sealant around the threaded holes prior to final assembly ? I believe it would be possible for oil to leak out along the bolt shank and under the bolt head if that casing joint was not sealed. I just applied a small amount of Permatex, but there didn't appear to have been anything there ex the factory.

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Dave, you may be able to clarrify for me - I have written previously that my pinion needle bearing inner raceway appeared to have moved away from the pinion face by approximately 1mm. Noted this during crown bearing replacement, however, looking at your 2 pics it may be that I didn't notice the inner race does not abut the pinion face, rather there is a small land which is proud of the pinion face and the raceway rests on that. Can you please confirm this for me as it's not quite visible on the pics due to the angle they were taken. I may not have a displaced inner raceway (yet) if this is the case. Also, on the 8 bolt holes in the alloy casing, does anyone apply sealant around the threaded holes prior to final assembly ? I believe it would be possible for oil to leak out along the bolt shank and under the bolt head if that casing joint was not sealed. I just applied a small amount of Permatex, but there didn't appear to have been anything there ex the factory.
The gap you see in pic 2 between the pinion gear & needle bearing race should not be there. I just use a light coating of oil on the bolt threads. I've never known any housing to leak there. Any sealer between the housing & cover could affect the preload.

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