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post #1 of 11 Old Aug 28th, 2013, 8:37 am Thread Starter
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I would like to change oil in the gear box. However the bolt placed at the bottom of the gear box is very hard to remove. Has it been over tighten in the past? do I need a torque ranch to remove... Any help or advise on how to do this, please advice. Thank you so much.
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Re: Gear oil change.

make sure you are trying to turn right direction easy to get mixed up when it is on the bottom
I have gotten over zealous at times, have had to use a pipe on the allen key, apply pressure to undo while pushing up with other hand on allen key then give a hard pull to snap it loose - you could do the same thing with a torque wrench and socket allen but torque wrenches are by nature springy

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Re: Gear oil change.

assuming you're talking about the transmission and not final drive, make ABSOLUTELY sure you have the right size allen wrench, seat it fully, and slip a pipe over the free end if you have it, tap on it with a hammer until it frees up (lefty loosey, righty tighty as the saying goes). Someone before you probably over-tightened it, it'll come free.

I've never heard of anyone using a torque wrench to loosen a locked-up bolt (unless they are too lazy to switch the socket to a regular ratchet). But use one if you can when you tighten the thing back on to make sure you're at proper torque (my manual says 55nm for that one)

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Re: Gear oil change.

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I would like to change oil in the gear box. However the bolt placed at the bottom of the gear box is very hard to remove. Has it been over tighten in the past? do I need a torque ranch to remove... Any help or advise on how to do this, please advice. Thank you so much.
I have changed it several times and the biggest issue for me was to get access to the bolt, as my bike has the hydraulic center stand that needs to be removed for a better access. The bolt moves after a few gentle taps on the allen wrench with a hammer. Just make sure you're tapping it in the right direction - this thing is upside down, so it's easy to mix-up directions.

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Since I didn't have a short 14mm Allen Key and they were not easy to come by after hours, I purchased a 3/8" bolt, 1" length in Grade 8 with two nuts. Tighten the nuts against each other on the bolt and use Loctite if you have. They need to be really tight. Slip a ring spanner over the bolt head and onto the inner nut. The bolt head then goes into the transmission drain plug, and you can tap on the open end of the wrench to loosen the plug. This makes for a short tool and I've used it with success on several transmission plugs. The idea is not to put torque on the plug to loosen it, but rather a jolt. Make sure of the direction though!

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Re: Gear oil change.

Allen wrench? Due to my center stand and limited access, I use a spanner nut, for get the size, fits in nice and tight, put a box end wrench on it and have at it. As for torque putting it back in, well yeah, just make it tight.


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Re: Gear oil change.

The EHCS does NOT need to be removed, but you do need to move the exhaust hanger out of the way.

I took a 14mm allen wrench and cut off the appropriate amount of it to fit into the drain plug recess and grip with a ratcheting box wrench. Much more compact than a hex socket and does a great job. The first one I hacked off with a Dremel cutoff wheel, but my current one is much prettier.

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Re: Gear oil change.

I bought a 14 MM hex key socket at harbor freight. drove the key out of the socket with a cold chisel. I turn the hex key with a 14 mm closed end wrench. works great. you can use a short pipe to increase leverage if you need to. I do remove the exhaust hanger extension. It is only two bolts and it makes it easier to place a plastic sheet to direct the gear oil flow to the drain pan.

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Re: Gear oil change.

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do I need a torque ranch to remove...
No you don't. And just FYI you shouldn't use a ratchet torque wrench to remove anything - it can mess up the calibration of the wrench. Yes I know many allow you to reverse the ratchet but its not good for them.

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What year is your LT?

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Re: Gear oil change.

I did it yesterday, 14mm allen socket, short extension,1/2 inch drive with a breaker bar, dont use torque wrench this is just for tightining, as said before apply a bit of pressure then a jolt, this should do it, good luck. you can buy individual allen sockets at you local tool store
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