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post #1 of 7 Old Aug 26th, 2013, 8:36 pm Thread Starter
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Hello, my 2006 LT (25K miles) is having ABS/Power brake problems. I have the solid red triangle and flashing (quickly) Brake Failure sign. Ever now and then it will work for a short while, but then stop again.

I have done a complete flush and fill, checked the battery, etc. I was wondering if anyone near Augusta, GA has a GS911 reader that I could use if I came to your location. I spoke to Tyler at ModuleMaster today and he hopes to have the rebuild process working on our ABS3 modules by Dec, but mentioned if I could get a read out from the computer, that he might be able to help me diagnose the problem before Dec.

My nearest shop is 2 hours away (Touring Sport in Greenville, SC) and I'm not opposed to going there instead (heard the shop reader gives more info that the GS-911), but just thought I'd see if anyone was closer than that before deciding.

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post #2 of 7 Old Aug 27th, 2013, 12:38 am
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Re: Georgia Area - GS911 Reader

Sounds like one of your circuits is failing. if a flush did not help I am afraid your unit is on the way out. There is nothing a GS-911 (or the dealers computer) can do to remedy that failure, they will help confirm the issue.

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Thank you John. I appreciate your wisdom. I think it is the rear circuit. That is the one that fails first and causes the first to stop working afterwards. I now have to decide to either wait for ModuleMaster to get their rebuild process working, or try to by-pass the whole system like the guy Chris from NH (BMW mech) does. I understand he is working on videos for the LT and might have them ready in Sept. I sent him an email to confirm over the weekend, but his shop is closed until today. We'll see what he says.

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While it is your choice to bypass. Yesterday I would not have wanted a bypassed system. I was coming down a hill at about 65 and a deer jumped out in front of us. Two up pulling a fully loaded Bustech trailer. I heard the tires screaming as I hauled the old girl down with maximum brake force. Missed the deer but I don't think I could have done it without those ABS brakes. You just never know when you will need them. Just sayin'.

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I think there has to be a distinction made between POWER brakes and ABS. ABS does not shorten stopping distance and it can allow you to maintain control by extending stopping distance - ABS works the same way as releasing the brake pedal/lever and re applying it quickly. If you can live without ABS the only question is - on the power brake systems is the size ratio of the master cylinder piston to caliper piston the same so that you can exert the same hydrualic force on the brake pads once you eliminate the system. I am amazed how fast my 2K without power brakes stops without getting the front tire howling.

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Sammy,

I can sympathize with you having to face replacing your ABS unit. The same situation happened to me, as well as, many other K1200LT riders. It is costly and time consuming, not to mention a huge disappointment, (BMW engineers?) to replace the entire ABS unit on a bike that you would expect to have some serviceable parts.

I strongly recommend that you do not ride your LT without the ABS unit functioning within specifications, and I agree wholeheartedly with John that you need the margin of safety, not only for you, but for your passenger and other motorists.

Reality check for you and others considering riding their LT's without the BS unit functioning. The BMW engineers designed all the K1200LT's (to my knowledge) to have ABS braking systems as standard equipment. You and I may think that it is a nice option put into the LT in order to sell more LTís, that might be true. What is more important is what a jury and judge and your insurance company will determine when they are informed your ABS unit was not working at the time of the accident, that it was standard equipment, and that it improves the stopping performance of one of the heavier motorcycles on the road. The outcome will be most likely that your insurance company will not pay for damages to your vehicle and to any injured parties, whether or not you caused the accident. You stand a chance of losing everything you ever worked for. Sammy and others, also consider this, by discussing your intention to bypass the ABS braking system on this forum you have informed the public of your potential actions, lawyers would say that this is "discoverable evidence" which may be used against you.

I hope that no one is ever it hurt by the absence of a working ABS unit. You can argue that what I have mentioned here is very extreme and most unlikely - it's possible. Food for thought. I replaced my ABS unit, I didn't like doing it- annoyed as, well, you know @@##**. Replace it. Ride with peace of mind. Forget about it. Just ride it.

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Re: Georgia Area - GS911 Reader

Thank you everyone. Great food for thought and many valid points. Will keep it all under advisement as I progress along the journey.

Sounds like a replacement or possibly a rebuild may be the best options. ModuleMaster stated a rebuild will be in the $400-450 range most likely.

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