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post #1 of 29 Old Aug 22nd, 2013, 11:33 am Thread Starter
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I have had auto insurance with USAA for about 10 years, and love them. Granted I've never had a claim, but they did help me on a claim with another insurance company when someone else hit me. I pay about $130 a month for 3 cars and 2 drivers, all auto-billed to my USAA account. The only time I ever even thought about insurance was once a year when they automatically emailed me my new ID cards.

Then about a year ago they stopped carrying motorcycle insurance, and farmed it out to progressive. I now pay about the same for my motorcycle insurance as I do for the other three cars combined, and progressive sends me some form to fill out or "additional information needed" letter at least every other month. Not to mention they won't auto-bill the account, and need my manual renewal every six months. Generally I'm not happy with progressive, they seem expensive, and the few times I've had to interact with customer service I would give them low ratings (as compared to USAA).

So who do you guys use? I'm not looking for the cheapo route, but feel like progressive is sticking it to me. I'm looking to just buy one motorcycle insurance; I'll leave my auto policy at USAA. Any opinions???

Anyone know anything about "rider" insurance? Germania? I won't go to Geico just because they inflitrate my life with horrible commercials.
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Warning - Warning . . .

At the BMWRA rally a couple of lawyers gave a presentation and they were not selling anything
but informing the community of riders of insurance issues and opportunities. My takeaway was
that no matter which insureance company you select - you must have in your motorcyle policy
both: UM and UIM - without these coverages you really do not have protection in the event you
need to use this stuff . . . period!!

I have Progressive and have not experienced any of the issues you have - however I pay my
policy off annually and they were the lowest cost provider in my area - last I checked - go figure!!

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I had Farmers. And they got too expensive and cancelled my car insurance after they said I didn't pay the premium. For which I never got a bill. So I went with Allstate .So far I like them.

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Yah. I probably wouldn't carry motorcycle insurance (like in Florida), except for the uninsured motorist/underinsured motorist coverage. I worry about others a whole lot more than I do myself.

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I have Dairyland and I like the low cost and great customer service.

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I also have Progressive. I pay them once a year and then never hear from them again until it is time to renew.
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So who do you guys use? I won't go to Geico just because they inflitrate my life with horrible commercials.
Not a real good excuse to screw yourself in my opinion. I got Geico 5 years ago on my 2002 LT and it was running around $350 a year full coverage. Now its down to around $150, but I've had no claims. Jeep Jeep Jeep! You know what day it is? (sorry, couldn't resist)

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I recently added my bike to my Progressive policy and thought I would check out Geico. They were less than half, with better coverage. I think I am going to switch.

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Me and ole '99 Toad carried Progressive from the git-go in '99. High limits to satisfy Umbrella policy withn USAA. Never filed a claim in 13 years. Yearly premium increases were minimal from a start of about $375. This year, with no explanation, premium went to ~$600. I couldn't get a reasonable answer, nor could my agent. So GEICO matched coverage, limits and deductible and we're golden at close to $300. THEN, we get a Progressive email questionnaire asking why we didn't renew!! Yeh, I know. Auto-generated email. I do have a published phone number! Something has changed over at Progressive and their subsidiaries, I fear.
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I also have Progressive. I pay them once a year and then never hear from them again until it is time to renew.
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I have USAA for my car and Progressive for my bikes. When I first got mc insurance in 2002, Dairyland was cheapest for me. My agent switched me to Progressive on cost after a few years. Regarding service, USAA has exemplary customer service so I think any other company of any type would be hard pressed to match or beat their service. Having said that, Progressive has always done me right. I have had three (maybe four) claims over the years. Each time, Progressive was quick to cut me a check for a proper repair. Because of that, I have never price shopped Progressive. The one time I looked into it (a long time ago) USAA was higher. Reading these comments, I might be tempted to price shop Progressive now, but as it stands, I'm probably about at breakeven for the premiums I've paid vs. the claims I've made.

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I had Progressive for about 5 years and they never went down even though the value of the bike did and I never had a claim. I switched to Allstate a couple of years ago due to my agent shopped it on cost.

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I had State Farm years ago and discovered that Geico was about 900.00 less a year for a couple of cars and a bike. I told my State Farm agent, which I had for many years, that I liked him but not 900.00 worth. Had Geico ever since and I have no complaints. Last year my RT fell over in my garage and did 3000.00 plus in damages. Geico came out to my house and printed my up a check in my driveway. They even paid me to put my new parts on myself. They charge me 202.00 a year for the LT, full coverage, 250.00 deductible, but I do get a discount for insuring 4 bikes, one ATV and my truck.

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They charge me 202.00 a year for the LT, full coverage, 250.00 deductible, but I do get a discount for insuring 4 bikes, one ATV and my truck.
Crap. I'm getting screwed.

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My latest annual payment (May) to Allstate was $199 for my '05-LT.

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When I first insured my LT I added it to my Oppressive auto policy. I got so FREAKIN' sick of FLO and looked elsewhere. By joining AARP I was able to purchase Foremost for less than 1/2 of Opressives rate.

We insure the Bimmers, the F150 and the house through American Family and pay significantly less than O Flo's rate.

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I have USAA but could not use their preferred carrier Progressive because Progressive will not insure in Washington DC. So I went with Foremost because they had the most competitive rates but it was still expensive. No way to get cheap rates in DC--even with a clean driving record and no claims.

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Geico for 29 years, no claims.

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Just switched my '09 RT from Geico to Progressive. Geico Premium was $404.00 to $260 at Progressive for better coverage.

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I had Progressive for many years but they became too expensive in Wisconsin. Switched to Auto-Owners Insurance out of Lansing , Michigan.
Much better price and coverage.
For my Yukon, Camry, the KLT with sidecar and the R1200 C, it was $ 480.00 for 6 months.
Of course that includes a discount for also having my home coverage with them.
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+1 on AARP with Foremost. Foremost is great with claims reconciliation.

Another one to look at is Riders Insurance. I believe you can get an additional discount somehow mentioning Bobs BMW. They are in the same cost range as Foremost through AARP.


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I had Allstate for probably 20 years, autos, bikes, home. Then one day I got a letter telling me they were dropping me and switching me to some other outfit I had never heard of at more than 2X the price. Turns out the new company was a subsidiary of Allstate and was staffed completely by former Allstate Executives. At that time Florida was hammering insurance companies and not allowing rate increases so Allstate beat the system by starting up a new company. That was the end of my relationship with them. I now have Progressive for my bikes and autos. Have had two claims with them over a 10 year period, 1 bike totaled and a single vehicle fender bender with a car. In both cases service was great and other than the deducible no cost to me including transport of the bike to the dealer for evaluation. No rate increases either. I pay annually with no hassles. They may not be the cheapest but the service keeps me coming back.

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I, too, have my insurance with USAA on cars and home, and I also bank with them. If they sold groceries and fuel, I would buy these items from them as well. Yes, they are that good at customer service.

Have had Progressive through USAA agency for at least eight to ten years since USAA does not offer its own motorcycle policies (did they ever?), no real issues. Premiums have been reasonable, and service was good, but never USAA good (is anyone, other than USAA?).

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Progressive here. Only one claim in 12 years and Progressive did a great job....

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USAA passed me off to Progressive a year or so ago. I've had two claims in that year - brake fluid leak and leaking valve. they handled both poorly.

i told them of the towing requirements and they sent an idiot-both times (the 2nd idiot weighed in at close to 400# and couldn't even get on the ground to look at the connection points i tried to show him. i sent him away.

i gave them the name of a local that knows how to tow K1200's. the first time it took them 4 hours to get him to me and they didn't pay him for 2 months. the second time i paid him and submitted the claim and was paid within 2 weeks.

1st year policy = $330; 2nd year policy = $270.

if i need them again for a claim, we'll see how they handle it.

pleasant but stupid-by the book-people IMHO

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USAA passed me off to Progressive a year or so ago. I've had two claims in that year - brake fluid leak and leaking valve. they handled both poorly.
Mike, I am confused about how an auto/cycle insurance policy might cover leaking brake fluid and/or leaking valve? Is this just regarding their roadside/towing component or did they cover the repairs?

Regardless of the reason for the call, it seems they failed in your case. I hope there is no next time, but, if there is, you fare better.

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what i wrote was poorly worded. sorry for any confusion.

you're correct. it was for towing only. it did NOT cover the repairs.

i have left several "nastygrams" (nicely written) with the information of the guy that tows. BTW he brings a trailer no matter what job it is. smart guy and knowledgeable.

I listed him under "Dealer Experiences"

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I've heard good things about Geico unlike with Progressive. I think it really differs depending on what state are you. We got our motorcycle insurance quote from here http://www.yepmarket.com/how-much-is-motorcycle-insurance
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I just moved to MA from upstate NY and the insurance here is, as they say locally, wicked expensive. They have all sorts of companies I've never heard of before due to some crazy local laws that meant many of the companies we've all heard of wont insure in this state. I approached Allstate and they're steered me to a local company (Arbella) who had great service at sign up but of course any insurance company is only as good as their service when they claim so who knows. I actually don't like Allstate that much because I had a claim on my car last year and they spent a fair bit of time trying to tell me the accident was my fault (it wasn't, and after 2 weeks of phone calls they finally agreed) and then the repair itself they cut corners by not authorizing replacing all the parts and hoping I wouldn't notice (I did). I discovered that they are known for this kind of behavior, meaning if you're paying attention, repairs take 2 or 3 rounds. I was far from impressed, but given my move had a tight deadline I stuck with them for now.

I'll have to look into AARP and USAA.

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