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Remote unlocking - observation

My '05 has been locked up and the key removed for the past 4 weeks. This hasn't been done in my 2 years of ownership. When I attempted to unlock the cases remotely yesterday there was no sign of life, though the red LED on the fob was flicking. Battery in the fob is good, I replace them annualy at re-registration time. Battery in the bike is also fine and is looked after periodically by an electronic tender. So I put the key in the ignition switch, turned to on, waited for the self test to complete then switched off. Removed the key, pressed the fob to unlock and instantly all was well. Don't quite understand the logic behind this, but I suspect it may be something to do with the alarm/security internal battery. Another one to remember

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My '05 has been locked up and the key removed for the past 4 weeks. This hasn't been done in my 2 years of ownership. When I attempted to unlock the cases remotely yesterday there was no sign of life, though the red LED on the fob was flicking. Battery in the fob is good, I replace them annualy at re-registration time. Battery in the bike is also fine and is looked after periodically by an electronic tender. So I put the key in the ignition switch, turned to on, waited for the self test to complete then switched off. Removed the key, pressed the fob to unlock and instantly all was well. Don't quite understand the logic behind this, but I suspect it may be something to do with the alarm/security internal battery. Another one to remember
I'm having the exact same problem right now - I'm effectively locked out of the LT. The bike's battery is just a few weeks old, and when I first saw the problem a few minutes ago I went to the local electronics store to replace the fob battery. Still no good.

My question for you (and anyone else!): Does the above procedure work if the alarm is set? I'm reluctant to try this procedure because (a) I'm not sure if the alarm is set, and (b) when I put the key in the ignition and turn it on (when the alarm is set), the alarm goes off. If I have a different problem than you had I don't want to have the alarm sounding until the battery dies.

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Yes the alarm will go off when you turn on the key. But this may also work as soon as the alarm goes off press the disarm button and hope for the best.

Also Howard you need to delete some of your stored PMs as I could not respond to yours because you box was FULL!

I would try cycling the alarm FOB to arm and un-arm several times as It might get it to clear.

And for Dennis, I took delivery of my bike in June of 04 and I use one FOB only and have never changed the battery in it. Never had an issue.

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Howard we both have the same year machine.
This happened to me while mine was in the garage and about a year old. Frustrated I called the dealer and was told about radio frequency interference. He told me don't change the battery try the other fob. Still did not work. After my second call to the dealer and after cooling down I tried it later and worked just like that.
Two questions are you basically parked in pretty much the same spot/area that you normally do. And yes I think trying the key activates something. Since you are not in your garage I understand your concern about trying it. Have not used my alarm at home since that incident.
Let it sit awhile and see what happens later. And approach the bike from the rear and aim the fob at the trunk. The receiver is supposed to be under the trunk.
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That is a good point Bill I forgot to mention. You want to reduce the FOB to alarm distance to overcome some RF sources like store auto doors and many other sources of interference. Point the FOB right at the top of the taillight assy.

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All is well. I, uh, had a bit of a dumba$$ attack here.

Concern (a) above was resolved when I looked at the flashing alarm light on the instrument panel and determined the alarm was off. This made me feel better about proceeding with the process described above. I had already tried cycling the fob off and on several times but nothing registered with the bike; it's parked in the same spot it always is and I was very close to the bike when using the fob.

So, I tried the OP's procedure: key in ignition, turn the bike on, let it cycle, turn the bike off. The fob then worked. Don't know why, but it did. I will keep the new battery in the fob since the original was at least 2 years old.

Thanks for your quick replies. I'm going to gear up and go for a short ride in NOLA's 96 degree weather.

PS: John - I will delete a bunch of old PMs right now. Thanks for letting me know.

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After a battery change
You need to synchronize fob with alarm Page 35 -
LED will light up after battery change.
Hold the fob in range of receiver and press the Lock button twice in succession.
LED starts flashing and goes out a few seconds later.
Remote is now ready for use.
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Good you got it going.
And your short rides somehow turns into long ones enjoy.
Like John mentioned I am still on the original battery though I carry the new one with me since then. '09 bought in 2010. I keep my books with me on every trip. Hope I never need to go into panic mode.
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Good you got it going.
And your short rides somehow turns into long ones enjoy.
Like John mentioned I am still on the original battery though I carry the new one with me since then. '09 bought in 2010. I keep my books with me on every trip. Hope I never need to go into panic mode.
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Thanks. I keep my LT manuals with me, too, but they were locked in the side case and I couldn't get to them until I turned the bike on/off. After I installed the new fob battery I did not need to sync the fob with the bike. It just worked.

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Remember Howard you can always get into the side cases with the key even when locked by central locking. The 1/4 turn trick. (does not work on the oddiments box).

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Thanks. I keep my LT manuals with me, too, but they were locked in the side case and I couldn't get to them until I turned the bike on/off. After I installed the new fob battery I did not need to sync the fob with the bike. It just worked.
Duh! what was I thinking
Notice I used two words in my first post frustrated and cooling down And like I said I was at home at the time so my manual kit was in house.
And thanks again John Z when I am in the panic zone thoughtfulness goes out the window. My concern was new bike why isn't this thing working
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Duh! what was I thinking
Notice I used two words in my first post frustrated and cooling down And like I said I was at home at the time so my manual kit was in house.
And thanks again John Z when I am in the panic zone thoughtfulness goes out the window. My concern was new bike why isn't this thing working
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I hear you. Once I took a second to think about it, there's a very easy - and obvious - way to tell if the alarm is set. That little flashing red light on the instrument cluster!

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Remember Howard you can always get into the side cases with the key even when locked by central locking. The 1/4 turn trick. (does not work on the oddiments box).
Thanks for the reminder, John. I've never done it but I think I'll check it out today. It was clever of BMW to give us a way into the locked cases when the fob isn't working.
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Hi Joel from Nelson City in New Zealand I want to sincerely thank you for the tip of unlocking my side boxes by turning the key a quarter turn.

I have a problem with my 2006 K1200LTE security system.

I have had my battery on a trickle charger as I live in Samoa in the Pacific and Nelson NZ.

On returning I see the trickle charger is non operational. I checked the 3amp fuse on the battery and that is fine. I then put the trickle charger on my wife's motorcycle and it is charging normally.

My remote control battery's on both remotes are fine.

I cannot find any information of which tab locks or unlocks the security system so please excuse this question but there is a rough tab and a smooth tab on the remote control. Can someone please clarify which one is for turning on to arm the system and which one disarms the system off.

I will have my battery tested immediately as it is just 3 months old.

I cannot thank you enough for considering my issue.

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The smooth button unlocks and disarms the alarm. The rough (or ribbed) locks and arms the alarm. Usually one press will lock and a second will arm as well. usually one press on the smooth will both unlock and disarm. If there is local RF interference hold the remote close to the latch on the top case as the alarm is directly under the top case. If you are still having trouble and want to bypass the alarm that is well documented but you loose the central locking feature.

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The smooth button unlocks and disarms the alarm. The rough (or ribbed) locks and arms the alarm. Usually one press will lock and a second will arm as well. usually one press on the smooth will both unlock and disarm. If there is local RF interference hold the remote close to the latch on the top case as the alarm is directly under the top case. If you are still having trouble and want to bypass the alarm that is well documented but you loose the central locking feature.
Wow. The 05 LT has remote unlocking???? I had no clue. I just bought mine and it came with one key. No fob. I guess I need to order a fob. Pretty cool....

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Almost every 05 came with it but it was an option so you may not have it. Remove the liner for the top case and you should see a solenoid attached behind the latch if you do have it. Or remove the rear seat and find the barrel connector in the center by the top case. Next to it will be a small flat two pin connector.

The problem with ordering a FOB is you also need the "secret" code for the alarm. The only way to get it is to get the number off the alarm itself and have a dealer send that seed number to Germany for the matching "secret" code.

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The problem with ordering a FOB is you also need the "secret" code for the alarm. The only way to get it is to get the number off the alarm itself and have a dealer send that seed number to Germany for the matching "secret" code.
John, Are you saying that my double secret decoder ring I got a long time ago from Kellogg's wont work with a new FOB.

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John, Are you saying that my double secret decoder ring I got a long time ago from Kellogg's wont work with a new FOB.
Only if you opened the Kellogg's box IN Germany.

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