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It's official, the LT is STILL the best 2 up touring bike

WHY, you ask?

Because Wonderlick is now offering cheesy aux wings (about $250 delivered) for K1600's that:

"drastically increases touring comfort and at the same time, protects the riders legs and feet from wind, cold and wet. Cold air-streams and turbulence originating from beneath the fairing are effectively suppressed."

http://www.nippynormans.com/products...tl-wun-8110524

Hmmm, even though we're short about 60 hp we still have superior wind protection AND better passenger ergonomics AND 10 mpg BETTER fuel economy, even though it was designed in the late 1990's....

Sure, it's a turd. Yeah, I've polished my turd. But I would rather ride my turd 700 miles a day TWO UP than any other turd on the planet. My turd still weighs about the same as the new turd. Weird, huh?

So there!

LONG LIVE THE TURD!


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I also understand that the K1600's are tire eaters and they run through rubber faster than
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Best touring bike, yes. (the 03 black ones). The old gal still has a lot of things going for it; Designed with 2 up in mind, Queen sized seat for her Majesty, lighted vanity mirror, weather protection, good passenger hand holds, good mpg but can still cruise at 80 mph.

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Best touring bike, yes. (the 03 black ones). The old gal still has a lot of things going for it; Designed with 2 up in mind, Queen sized seat for her Majesty, lighted vanity mirror, weather protection, good passenger hand holds, good mpg but can still cruise at 80 mph.
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I couldn't agree more! Spent yesterday going over Loveland and Hoosier Passes in CO, 280 miles in half day ride two up, stopped for coffee, never once for gas. Rode with 'wings' in most of the day since it was an amazing 77 degrees here yesterday, closed the wings at the top while it dropped to the 40's, and my wife was happy! Just turned 100K, (2000), and while I have experienced final drive failure, I'm looking forward to another 100K miles. I did ride the GTL for a test ride, and it was sweet, but not sure it's the right move for two up, which is how we ride as often as possible. And today, another 75 degrees, might mean another 300 mile half day!

I'll give them another few years to figure out the 1600 and see what comes of it-til then, I'm happy to keep my predictable 1200 happy with Mobil 1 and new Metzlers.

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Are Meese, Dandiver et al away?
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Another big + for the LT: it's paid for!

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I couldn't agree more! Spent yesterday going over Loveland and Hoosier Passes in CO, 280 miles in half day ride two up, stopped for coffee, never once for gas. Rode with 'wings' in most of the day since it was an amazing 77 degrees here yesterday, closed the wings at the top while it dropped to the 40's, and my wife was happy! Just turned 100K, (2000), and while I have experienced final drive failure, I'm looking forward to another 100K miles. I did ride the GTL for a test ride, and it was sweet, but not sure it's the right move for two up, which is how we ride as often as possible. And today, another 75 degrees, might mean another 300 mile half day!

I'll give them another few years to figure out the 1600 and see what comes of it-til then, I'm happy to keep my predictable 1200 happy with Mobil 1 and new Metzlers.

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Loveland Pass is simply beautiful, but watch out for the Seven Sisters avalanche chutes: In the winter they have knocked dozens of cars off the road over the years - and in the summer they sometimes spew boulders as big as cars moving at over 100 mph.

I've not only driven over Loveland Pass probably 100 times (used to work at Keystone Resort) I've also FLOWN over it in a hot air balloon at 16K feet and landed next to Interstate 70 four miles east of the Eisenhower Tunnel. In the middle of winter. It was an unplanned flight.

Oh yeah, I had 8 passengers on board too.


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Are Meese, Dandiver et al away?
Been underwater all morning....

All I can say is, just try it! The K1600 is definitely not for everyone and like all bikes, it must fit your application. The K1200LT made me smile. The K1600 is simply way past that. Since 95% of my riding is solo, and I'm still at that point in my life where I crave excitement, the K1600 fills that need, while giving me the luxuries that I enjoy.

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I am sure it's just me but I find the K16 to be just too ugly to own....

Why am I here and what day is it??
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Those wings remind me of 1980's era GoldWing accesories!
(B.T.W., that is not a compliment.)

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So far the consensus seems to be that for two up comfort the LT is still King !

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I, like Michael, ('03 Black), just have to agree with Ron.........and yes, I love to get in the twisties and knock on it. But then, the majesty can crank the tunes, kick back and put in a nice long run and still get off and "walk" to the restaurant or what ever. I'd probably find another fun bike, just for my own pleasure, but the LT is king of touring.



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Absolutely! at 6mm thick, it must be like riding behind the bullet proof wall at the bank! Lt is the best, cant see spending 30 large and get a ride that has large openings around the body, being able to see the battery box, eat tires and now, their going through water pumps like tires!

And, my dealer connect in SoCal tells me they have not seen an LT final drive failure, I hear they happen but not as often as we think. Now FD's on RTP's, lots! But probably due to the way they are rode hard and put away wet!

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Lt is the best, cant see spending 30 large and get a ride that has large openings around the body, being able to see the battery box, ...
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You hit the nail on the head. But in a way this is a good thing. Just think what would have happened if they came out with a K1600LT? I'd be fighting with Honey Bunny about getting a new bike and peace on earth would be gone.

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Ok, ok...Let's just all agree that the LT is the boss....and the king of all the bosses, of course as we all know, is the '99 Champagne LT. Thread over. Let's move on...hehehe

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Who's looking at the 1600's battery box or "ugliness" when they're having the best ride of their motorcycle life?

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Who's looking at the 1600's battery box or "ugliness" when they're having the best ride of their motorcycle life?
True dat...

I can see the battery on my '79 R 80/7. ...and it is by any standards - even compared to it's Japanese or British contemporaries - an ugly bike.

...and I STILL think it's the best ride of my life. Puts a silly grin on my face every time I hear the "clickty click click."

I always think there is something wrong with it! ...but then I just jam my earplugs in and all is good with the world.


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And, my dealer connect in SoCal tells me they have not seen an LT final drive failure,


There is not a single dealer that will admit that there is a problem with the final drives on the LT.
The problem is, is that they were over shimmed when assembled, if they were put together correctly the first time, there would not be a problem.

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I recently passed on a new K1600GTL and bought a 2009 K1200LT with only 4K miles.

The K1600 is nice, but I don't like the styling. Also, the chance to get what is essentially a new LT for 10K less than a K1600 was too hard to pass up. My wife and I have planned a vacation in Jamaica with the money I saved.
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And, my dealer connect in SoCal tells me they have not seen an LT final drive failure
Before I bought my LT, I asked a dealer tech about final drive failure. He said that in his 15 years as a tech, he has seen only 5 failures.
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Are Meese, Dandiver et al away?
Nah, we're just too busy actually riding, rather than talking about how great our bikes would be if we were riding them . . .

37K on my GTL in just over 6 months . . .

If you think the LT is The Best Bike Ever, then that's cool. Be happy with what you've got, and enjoy it, or enjoy talking about it.

In the mean time, we'll be out riding . . .

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It seems to me (and my ignorance) that it would have been so easy to build a luxury touring bike on the K1600 chassis but instead they just made 2 different versions of a sport touring bike. When the K1600 was still waiting to be unveiled I was assuming that there would be a sport touring and a luxury touring version a la the K1200 series.

I have not done a test ride on one yet because my interest in any new bike only extends to keeping an eye on the used market in a couple years. I test-sat on one and quite frankly I would rather have an RT and not have to replace the water pump every time I red-line the engine (like that ever happens on any bike I ride ) Right now I am happy with my LT and don't see that changing anytime soon so when it wears out or gets old (to me) I'll just have to get a GSA and explore that world for a while.
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I have to agree with everybody; that had good comments on the LTs.
My wife also loves the way it rides down the rode on trips.
The only bad thing now ;the riding is coming to the end here soon ;in Michigan.
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I was assuming that there would be a sport touring and a luxury touring version a la the K1200 series.
There are. It's just not as large of a difference as the K12's was. But the difference is still there, and it is noticeable to anyone who rides both models.

The K12LT is still a fine bike, that serves many folks well. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Isn't it great to have choices.

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Ah. Normal service has resumed! I was worried there for a while.
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There are. It's just not as large of a difference as the K12's was....
I guess I was a bit ambiguous in my original post, this is what I was trying to say, there is a huge difference between an LT and say an RT, I guess I just don't see that big of a difference between the GT and GTL.

The first time I put the MRS. on the back of an LT at the dealer I had approval to purchase one (actually I had prior approval to buy a goldwing but once she got on an LT that was revoked in favor of the LT). I got no such permission with a GTL.

I am just guessing that BMW is not stealing any market from Honda based on SO authorization, the only sales they are getting from Honda is either loyalty to the BMW brand or riders who get to make the ultimate decision about which bike they would rather ride (I still have no doubt the GTL is superior to a Goldwing just like the LT was).
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If I can offer my opinion here, I'd say the following:

1) love my LT. Comfortable and sporty enough;
2) Only sat on the GT and GTL, noticing the differences to be simply "bolt-on options";
3) Would buy the GTL in a heartbeat if I had the money.
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I guess I was a bit ambiguous in my original post, this is what I was trying to say, there is a huge difference between an LT and say an RT, I guess I just don't see that big of a difference between the GT and GTL.

The first time I put the MRS. on the back of an LT at the dealer I had approval to purchase one (actually I had prior approval to buy a goldwing but once she got on an LT that was revoked in favor of the LT). I got no such permission with a GTL.

I am just guessing that BMW is not stealing any market from Honda based on SO authorization, the only sales they are getting from Honda is either loyalty to the BMW brand or riders who get to make the ultimate decision about which bike they would rather ride (I still have no doubt the GTL is superior to a Goldwing just like the LT was).
I suspect you're right about the 1600 purchases being driven by riders rather than passengers in most cases, and that the passenger accommodations on the LT are a little more passenger-friendly for the majority.

There are some exceptions, though. My wife made the comment - totally unsolicited - that she feels fresher after a full day on the GTL than she did on our LT. I know I do, and I attribute that to the smoothness of the engine. But I was surprised that translated to the passenger...or maybe it's something else. She also liked the stock GTL passenger seat better than the stock LT passenger seat...at least on our several-years-old LT. The last thing she wants while riding is music in her ear, so the lack of passenger speakers is a no-op for her. And she tends to be a little claustrophobic, so you couldn't put armrests around her at gunpoint.

I think in general the wind protection on the GTL is inferior to the LT, primarily due to the narrower fairing. As we know, we're all such drastically different shapes and sizes, not to mention having different relative tolerances for things like vibration, noise, wind, cold, space, etc that it's impossible to know which bike suits you best unless you're able to give them a try.

So we're all very different, and we can be glad there are a lot of very good choices out there, the 1600 and LT no doubt being the best.

I agree that the GT and GTL are more alike than different...just tuned differently as they are, of course, fundamentally the same bike when equivalently optioned out. I suspect BMW did some hand-wringing trying to figure out how to position the 1600 models along the sport-touring to pure touring spectrum. I wouldn't be surprised to see a more pure touring model come down the pike.

A side note...we received one of those marketing surveys (with a dollar bill "for your trouble"...tells you what they think my time is worth) in the mail on "cruiser motorcycles". I glanced at it and saw lots of "Harley" and "Victory" words so was about it pitch it, when I saw that one of the options was BMW K1600GTL. Never knew I owned a cruiser. So I did my best to answer the questions, although they were asking a lot of questions about things like leather saddlebags and chromed floorboards that I probably didn't help them much with.
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Well there you have it! IF I HAD THE MONEY! I'd be like JAY LENO and buy one of each! One each of all of them!

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I suspect you're right about the 1600 purchases being driven by riders rather than passengers in most cases.
This.

The appeal of the K16 isn't found while sitting on one in a dealer, it's found while riding the bike. That motor alone is damn incredible (so much smooth torque), plus the updated suspension, gadgetry, etc., that all translate into a faster, smoother, more invigorating ride.

And losing 100+ lbs doesn't hurt, either.

The LT is still a fine bike, and has served many a rider and passenger very well. It still does. But it's now decade-old technology, and BMW has upped the game with the K16 platform.

If the LT is a 2000-2005 era 7-series car, than the K16 is a brand-new M5. Not the same, but damn close to the same comfort level, with all the modern gadgets and simply a hell of a lot more fun to ride well.

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Well there you have it! IF I HAD THE MONEY! I'd be like JAY LENO and buy one of each! One each of all of them!
I'm in! But where are we gonna locate that huge garage?

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"The appeal of the K16 isn't found while sitting on one in a dealer, it's found while riding the bike. That motor alone is damn incredible (so much smooth torque), plus the updated suspension, gadgetry, etc., that all translate into a faster, smoother, more invigorating ride."

While I can't argue this, I will say that having simply sat on both, I would buy the GTL without test riding it. I have enough faith in what BMW says they did, and in what I've read' to believe it's everything I would be looking for in a bike. AND, just sitting on it was like putting on a tailored suit. Dam but that thing just fit.
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Hmmm, even though we're short about 60 hp we still have superior wind protection AND better passenger ergonomics AND 10 mpg BETTER fuel economy, even though it was designed in the late 1990's....
How many LT riders are riding a fully stock bike? Not too many, I'd wager.

And how many have swapped out the factory LT windscreen for something that works better, especially for the passenger? Quite a few, from what I can tell.

Hell, the first thing I did when I pulled my LT out of storage last fall was to put a Cee Baileys screen and Bakup backrest on it, along with my Rocky Mayer seat, just to make it 'rideable" again.

We all modify our bikes to suit ourselves, be it ergonomics, wind protection, gadgetry, or just bling. That's just part of owning and riding a motorcycle.

Hell, Ron, you yourself make a living selling comfort upgrades for all bikes, the LT included.

And where do you get the 10 mpg difference from? I get pretty much the same mileage on my GTL as I did on my LT, or my GT. Which is low-mid 40's average with how I ride , 50+ when cruising along, and mid 30's when hammering it hard (the GTL is much more fun on a track than the LT).

The man difference is that the GTL rewards you much better when riding it to the limit, so you want to do that more often . . .

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"The appeal of the K16 isn't found while sitting on one in a dealer, it's found while riding the bike. That motor alone is damn incredible (so much smooth torque), plus the updated suspension, gadgetry, etc., that all translate into a faster, smoother, more invigorating ride."
Yeah, it's all good 'til you look at the price tag.
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Yeah, it's all good 'til you look at the price tag.
It's only money. Can't take it with you.

If it's important enough, you figure out how to make it happen. And if not, then you keep on riding the LT, and maybe look for a lightly-used model in a few years.

Hell, my GTL should be up for sale in a year or two. It should only have maybe 100K or so on it by then, still plenty of life left. And I'll make you a hell of a deal . . .

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It's only money. Can't take it with you.

If it's important enough, you figure out how to make it happen. And if not, then you keep on riding the LT, and maybe look for a lightly-used model in a few years.

Hell, my GTL should be up for sale in a year or two. It should only have maybe 100K or so on it by then, still plenty of life left. And I'll make you a hell of a deal . . .
I test rode a K16. Nice bike, but no more exciting than my '09 LT, at least for my riding style.

If I was in the market for a new bike, I'd consider an RT or Triumph's new 1200 Trophy.
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Back when I had a 88 Wing a friend had a 93 and his was better because it was newer. When he got a 01it was really better than mine. I think it all boils down to what you like. I have a 99 LT and it suits me just fine, It is paid for and with 119k it still runs fine.The k16 is no doubt an excellent bike but I don't feel deprived because it is newer and "better". The LT works for me and I am happy riding it. Who knows, some day when the house is paid for I might give the k16 a try. Ride what you like and like what you ride.

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C'mon Man! What fun would that be. As men we all want to compare! Even if we don't have the biggest or badest, we still like to talk, thats the fun, besides riding.

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good reading here.......

have to say in my limited time on the LT, never have I rode anything as comfortable.


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The problem with men comparing, is that someone always ends up "short" . . .

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The problem with men comparing, is that someone always ends up "short" . . .

Right you are, stubby.

Got to thinking what a disservice BMW has done to some riders. When I was test sitting the GTL, so was one of my riding buddies, who rides a Goldwing. He felt the same as I did, and would love to sell his GW and Vstrom to buy the GTL. Why doesn't he? He doesn't do his own service, and the lack of reasonably close service was enough to steer him away from BMW altogether. Wonder how many sales that costs BMW, or if they even care.
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What was that again, Frank? I couldn't quite hear you over my 160 HP GTL cranking up to redline . . .

Yeah, BMW knows they need more dealers. But that's easier said than done. They're really still a small player in the overall two-wheeled market.

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What was that again, Frank? I couldn't quite hear you over my 160 HP GTL cranking up to redline . . .

Yeah, BMW knows they need more dealers. But that's easier said than done. They're really still a small player in the overall two-wheeled market.
One of the nice things in Ohio. Choice of 4 BMW dealers.

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I concur with all of the positive statement about the K1200LT being the Best Touring Bike ever, well at least the best I have ever ridden. I know that some of you name your bikes, well I have never named my bikes. I appreciate all the BMW’s I have owned a total of 5 over the last 32 years and 500K+, but just last week I have been so impressed with my LT at 230K+ that I decided to give her a title. So she will be known as “Cassius Clay” from this time forward, you have to know that she simply “floats like a Butterfly and stings like a Bee”

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"What was that again, Frank? I couldn't quite hear you over my 160 HP GTL cranking up to redline . . . "

Is someone over compensating?
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