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Garmin 665/Scala G4 Pairing

I added the XM Radio option on the Garmin. Works well with the Scala G4. I bought a second Scala G4 for my wife. However, when I attempt to pair the second unit thru the 665, I cannot get the 665 to set up so that we BOTH have Bluetooth connection to the XM, though it shows both units recognized on the 665 display.
It only allows one unit to connect for music listening purposes. If I try to connect the second G4 while the first on is on and connected to the 665, it kicks out the first G4. If I have the second G4 connected and try to go back and connect the first unit, it kicks out the second unit.

Dd I miss something here? ---You Can't connect two g4's at the same time to the 665..which is a bummer...or am I not setting this up correctly?? All help from the Gurus is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Garmin 665/Scala G4 Pairing

I do not think you missed anything. I have the same issue. My rider buddy and I both have G4 headsets and whenever I am connected to him xm radio is completely cut out. I have been trying to find a solution for a year. If you find one, please post.

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Re: Garmin 665/Scala G4 Pairing

What did Scala say?

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Re: Garmin 665/Scala G4 Pairing

I have emailed Scala support twice. No response. Can't find a phone number for Tech Support.
It could be a Garmin issue...
Maybe It's the Garmin tbat can't handle 2 Bluetooth inputs at the same time --But I thought I would start out with Scala

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The way it was explained to me, Bluetooth can only have one pairing at a time. From what I understand, the G4 can prioritize the signals, so that it will override communication between the headsets. The Garmin can only send to one unit at a time, thus you will only get music from the garmin to one head set. I basically have the same problem with the G4. I want my passenger and I to be able to have music at the same time and be able to communicate, but as far as I know that isn't possible with the G4, or ANY of the bluetooth headsets.
I've seriously considered going back to the wired autocom system I still have on my other bike.
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That 's what I figured. After waiting online for a half hour to talk to a Garmin Rep-- I got the answer from you immediately -- thanks.

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If the FCC wouldn't have screwed things up, you could have listened to satellite radio through the G4 with a regular satellite radio through the FM band on the headsets. BUT . . .
The FCC restricted the strength of the signal, so unless you have the satellite radio glued to your helmet, the signal that it sends out is too weak for the antenna on the G4 to pick up. I thought I had it all figured out until I found out THAT little fact. I have the little pioneer satellite radio that takes a micro SD card for all my MP3's, and it broadcasts the MP3's on an FM band. But the signal is too weak for the G4's or any other headset to pick up without being right on top of it. I have tried to find some kind of an FM signal booster that I could wire in somewhere, but have been unsuccessful to date.
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I'll also save you a little frustration. Forget plugging into the input jack on the G4 if you want to maintain communication. The line in overrides the com system. I've been down the exact same road as you my friend trying to get com AND music to both riders at the same time
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The way it was explained to me, Bluetooth can only have one pairing at a time. From what I understand, the G4 can prioritize the signals, so that it will override communication between the headsets. The Garmin can only send to one unit at a time, thus you will only get music from the garmin to one head set. I basically have the same problem with the G4. I want my passenger and I to be able to have music at the same time and be able to communicate, but as far as I know that isn't possible with the G4, or ANY of the bluetooth headsets.
I've seriously considered going back to the wired autocom system I still have on my other bike.
I have a very slightly used Autocom SuperProAVI that was briefly used as a demo if you need one.

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I have the exact same unit on my FJR. I had 0 problems with it once I had it set up. Thanks for the offer, but seeing as The Boss won't ride on the back of that one anymore, I will probably take it off of that one and put it on the "garbage barge."
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I need more info and background, since I am a newbie on the advancement made since I last rode a K100Lt.

I really like the Garmin 665 with its ability to link my cellphone and provide XM to my Scala G4-- and the ability to communicate thru the second Scala G4. How would the autocom integrate with all this?

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With the Autocom, there are various input jacks for different devices. Everything is wired, but I found it worked with no issues when you set them up in the right sequence.

With the AVI, there was pretty well a jack for every device you could think of. I had the GPS, the Satellite radio, the MP3 player (at that time, had two seperate units) all hooked up. I could have hooked up the cell phone, but that is something I am totally uncomfortable with since the city I live in is BEYOND DANGEROUS for riders.

It prioritized the GPS first, followed by the com system (phone would have been second if I had gone that route) then the music. Everything however has to be wired with male to male 1/8" audio jacks for your devices. The com system is also wired, using a 7 pin (I think) connector. You end up with a "tail" sticking out of your helmet(s) which can be a little frustrating at times, and of course you don't have the freedom that bluetooth provides, but in the end I think it is probably the better route to go for riders like you and I until something can be done about the single pairing issue with bluetooth, or someone comes up with something different for wireless communication.
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We use the Autocom cables that have the 3.5mm jack in them so we can use our moulded in-ear monitors instead of the helmet speakers.

I also installed a simple toggle switch on the mic lead for those times when it is more convenient to turn off the mic than mess with VOX settings or windshield position. Rarely happens, but when on a 1500 mile trip, I would much rather flip a small toggle wedged into my helmet by the pigtail than dork around with the comms.

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I also installed a simple toggle switch on the mic lead for those times when it is more convenient to turn off the mic than mess with VOX settings or windshield position. Rarely happens, but when on a 1500 mile trip, I would much rather flip a small toggle wedged into my helmet by the pigtail than dork around with the comms.
That is a great idea Tony, I'll have to add a switch to the wifes helmet. She is always opening up the visor on hot days and it messes with my music.

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The problem is with the Garmin it does not support multi session bluetooth. You need to get something like the Sena SM10, pair the Garmin to it and pair both headsets to the SM10. Take a look here for details. There are a couple other makers of simular devices and if you go to Webbikeworld.com and read on the testing they have done with bluetooth devices.

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Don't you pair the driver's headset to the Zumo and then the passenger's headset to the driver's headset?

You can't have multiple accessories simultaneoulsy bluetoothed to the same source.

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Don't you pair the driver's headset to the Zumo and then the passenger's headset to the driver's headset?
Yes but the Zumo will only talk to one headset, not both.

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You can't have multiple accessories simultaneoulsy bluetoothed to the same source.
Not sure what you are saying here, but you can connect more than one accessory bluetoothed to one headset. The vendor then sets a priority for the devices and they take turns based on that to talk/connect to the headset.
The SM10 however can and does connect to one source and simultaneously transmit to two headsets.

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Re: Garmin 665/Scala G4 Pairing

The SM10 looks like the way to go here, since we have already purchased the ScalaG4 system.
Just to confirm: the SM10 will pair with the Garmin, and then each of our Scala G4's can pair to the SM10...and voila-- we both get XM.

Does anyone know if the cell phone audio will also work thru the SM10, since the Garmin 665 provides pairing to Bluetooth enabled cellphones, and then send the audio onto the G4. I like being able to answer calls on those long rides. I don't do it in town.

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The SM10 looks like the way to go here, since we have already purchased the ScalaG4 system.
Just to confirm: the SM10 will pair with the Garmin, and then each of our Scala G4's can pair to the SM10...and voila-- we both get XM.

Does anyone know if the cell phone audio will also work thru the SM10, since the Garmin 665 provides pairing to Bluetooth enabled cellphones, and then send the audio onto the G4. I like being able to answer calls on those long rides. I don't do it in town.
You should be able to pair the Garmin with the SM10 and the Scala G4's and both get XM. See the Senabluetooth connection guide.

If you pair the phone to the Garmin and use the above setup, both will also hear the phone. I think I would pair the phone to the Scala and then only one person would get the phone, actually each could pair a separate phone and have a conference call.

Don't forget to take a look a Webbikeworld because there a couple new units like the SM10 on the market now.

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Thanks for the advice and guidance. I will check out WebBike World. And thanks to everyone for taking the time to enlighten the rookie. The mission continues.

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Re: Garmin 665/Scala G4 PairingResponses From CARDO

In the interest of full disclosure and fair play: I received an email from Cardo. A representative contacted me via email, concerned that I stated in this forum that they had not responded to my emails concerning pairing the G4.

The representative forwarded a copy of the responses that they sent to me.

So, I stand corrected, they DID respond,,,I cannot find the emails in my Spam folder, so, I must have deleted.

I wanted to correct this oversight/ mis-statement. My mistake.

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I'll also save you a little frustration. Forget plugging into the input jack on the G4 if you want to maintain communication. The line in overrides the com system. I've been down the exact same road as you my friend trying to get com AND music to both riders at the same time
If you plug an audio source into the G4 input, it does override the VOX function but you are able to communicate by manually activating the intercom. When communicating the music is muted, but once you complete the conversation, you are able to return to the music. I believe you begin and end the conversation with the A button.
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As I have a set of Sena SMH10 Dual for our new helmets I found that I also needed an SM10 after asking Sena's help desk.
Note that their recommendation is to use a cable to connect the Zumo 665 to the SM10 via the Audio In instead of BT. The Escort will take the Aux input on the SM10. Then pair the SM10 to the SMH10 Dual
Below are our conversations. Earlier messages to newest messages from bottom to top:

Dean, Aug 31 09:38 (PDT): Hi,

The SM10 comes with two 3.5mm cables that you can use with your Zumo and radar.

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Zippy Gg, Aug 30 17:05 (PDT):
What type of cables do I need? The Escort radar detector is mono and the Zumo is stereo. Can I use standard mono and stereo 3.6mm cables?
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Dean, Aug 30 10:48 (PDT):
Hi,

With the two SMH10 you can chat with your passenger. To be able to hear streamed music from both SMH10, take a look at the SM10 - link provided below.

http://senabluetooth.com/products/sm..._menu=overview

The SM10 allows streaming of audio to both SMH10 headsets. The stream is one way only, from SM10 to the SMH10 headsets. And you have to hard-wire connect your Zumo and radar to the SM10.

I hope this answers your questions.

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Zippy Gg, Aug 29 19:34 (PDT):
I have a SMH10Dual kit and I want connect my Zumo 665 (has BT) and Escort radar detector (does not have BT)
What additional equipment do I need to chat with my passenger and share the music from the Zumo (built-n MP3 and XM sat radio) while also getting the radar detector alerts?
Is it possible to prioritize the various inputs (Zumo directions=1, Radar=2, anything else has lower priority)?


I hope this helps! I am still in the process of installing everything as I am removing the Baehr system from the bike.

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Yes but the Zumo will only talk to one headset, not both.


Not sure what you are saying here, but you can connect more than one accessory bluetoothed to one headset. The vendor then sets a priority for the devices and they take turns based on that to talk/connect to the headset.
The SM10 however can and does connect to one source and simultaneously transmit to two headsets.
You can't have 2 headsets paired to the Zumo simultaneously.

You can have 1 headset and 1 phone paired with the Zumo. The 2nd Headset needs to be paired to the 1st headset

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You can't have 2 headsets paired to the Zumo simultaneously.

You can have 1 headset and 1 phone paired with the Zumo. The 2nd Headset needs to be paired to the 1st headset
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Question Re: Garmin 665/Scala G4 Pairing

Question for those who have the SM10: how do you power that unit? Do you modify the cigarette lighter plug and fins a switched power source? Also where do you locate the SM10 on the LT, being sure it can be snatched by a less than scrupulous character?

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Re: Garmin 665/Scala G4 Pairing

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Question for those who have the SM10: how do you power that unit? Do you modify the cigarette lighter plug and fins a switched power source? Also where do you locate the SM10 on the LT, being sure it can be snatched by a less than scrupulous character?
Gilles,
Do you mean how long does it run on the battery? If that is the question the answer is;
if you only use it to talk to one another about 2 days riding 4-6 hrs.
if use use it for constant music etc, about 8 hrs.
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Do you modify the cigarette lighter plug and fins a switched power source?
I just charge it at the end of the day. I don't tent/camp so I use the 110volt charger.You can charge while using, you would need to use a cigarette or USB charger adapter.
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Also where do you locate the SM10 on the LT, being sure it can be snatched by a less than scrupulous character?
I take it off the helmet and store it, small enough to fit in a jacket pocket.

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Gilles,
Do you mean how long does it run on the battery? If that is the question the answer is;
if you only use it to talk to one another about 2 days riding 4-6 hrs.
if use use it for constant music etc, about 8 hrs.

I just charge it at the end of the day. I don't tent/camp so I use the 110volt charger.You can charge while using, you would need to use a cigarette or USB charger adapter.

I take it off the helmet and store it, small enough to fit in a jacket pocket.
John,

My setup will include the SMH10 Dual that I will attach to the helmets, and the SM10 will stay on the bike so I want to have it charging while I am riding.
The radar detector and the Garmin 665 will be wired to the SM10, and the SM10 in turn will be paired to both SMH10 on the helmets.
So my needs are:
  • Close to a Switched power source (I am powering the GPS and Escort through the map light)
  • Easy to access/use (so I can pair, etc...)
  • Securely attached so it won't be a target for the occasional thief
  • Location relatively protected from the elements (I have a BMR shelf system, the GPS is on the center and the Escort is on the right arms; I think I have the left arm somewhere)

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Re: Garmin 665/Scala G4 Pairing

So to answer my own question: I powered the SM10 the same way I power the Escort and the GPS; I tapped the map light. The SM10 comes with a cigarette lighter type of connection; I cut that cord close to the cig plug and used the 2 leads clearly colored as positive and negative. This allows the SM10 to be secured to the bike (to prevent it from "walking away") and it gets charged when the ignition key is turned on to the first position.
The SMH10 headsets did very well during our Fort Bragg ride this past weekend, and they help their battery charge all day long, or about 8-10 hours, in intercom mode.

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Re: Garmin 665/Scala G4 Pairing

Gilles,

Sorry somehow I missed the re-post after I responded. Also if you have a need to charge the SMH10 while on the bike you can get a USB adapter for the powerlet sources and charge while either riding or sitting around.

Glad you got things worked out, I would have suggested that you use the map light for power.

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Re: Garmin 665/Scala G4 Pairing

John, I think I will revisit how I power these 3 devices (Escort, Garmin, Sena) and probably add a small fuse box as the map light connectors became very busy.
Also while my SM10 is now paired with at least one of the SMH10 I still don't hear alerts coming from the Escort, and I only get a loud hiss when I power on the Garmin so something is amiss.
I am working with Sena tech support. I will try using a mono cable instead of stereo for the Escort as a first step.

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Re: Garmin 665/Scala G4 Pairing

I was hoping to see how things if anything has changed in the last few months on this?

I am looking at the need to get a BT dongle till Garmin fixes their BT problem.

I guess what I do is Pair the SM10 with the Scala

Use the Audio in for the hard wire to the Zumo 665 and get XM, MP3 and Directions from the SM10 to the Scala

Do I also BT my iPhone to the Scala?

If so:

1. Do I connect the SM10 Dongle that is hard wired to the GPS by pressing and holding the Volume Up Button for at least six seconds until the Red and Blue Lights begin flashing simultaneously.

2. Do connect the Phone to the Mobile Button?

It would seem to me that if the documentation is correct, the GPS and MP3 and XM will work thru the GPS device and the iPhone would work as the mobile device and should be able to hear GPS instructions unless the iPhone rings and then the iPhone would take priority?

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