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post #1 of 12 Old Sep 14th, 2012, 10:03 am Thread Starter
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Joined tipover club today now got problems

On vacation in Germany with my wife and had my first tipover, luckily is was at 1mph on a gravel surface and nobody hurt. After picking the bike up we went in the adjacent cafe for a coffee, pleased no one hurt and only damage appeared to be a slight mark on the plastic bumper.

My woes didn't end there, upon leaving the cafe we had to climb a slight incline and the bike appeared to bottom out, bit of a clunk and scraping sound, seem ok so off we went, after a few miles I noticed that the right hand indicator was on but wouldn't cancel, I tried all combinations including the hazards which seemed to cure the problem for a few seconds but the right hand indicator started flashing again, none the less decided to plod on till I could find a safe place to park. I also started to notice that it was becoming problematic selecting gears so I stopped at the next pull in.

Turned machine off for a while, restarted it and r/h indicator stayed off, pull out onto the road in first gear went to change to second and got neutral, no matter how much I tried all I could get was first and neutral. Only option call the breakdown service and have it delivered to a BMW Motorrad dealer here in Germany, I don't want to jump to assumptions but all I seemed to get from the mechanic was 'gross' Motorrad, he will look at it tomorrow.

Anyone ad something similar happen to them if so was it easily fixable and at what cost.

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post #2 of 12 Old Sep 14th, 2012, 11:04 am
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Re: Joined tipover club today now got problems

Well Andy I see you are sill online.
Welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear of your misfortune especially being on vacation.
Did it drop on the right or left side?
The shift problem may just be that the shift linkage is loose and needs cleaned and lubed. The ball studs tend to loosen over time if they are not lubed and moving freely.
If that is the only shift problem it will be a very easy fix and may just be a coincidence that it showed up after the tipover.
The turn signal thing I can't help you with.
What year is your LT and how long have you had it?

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Re: Joined tipover club today now got problems

+1 on shift linkage, another option if it went down on the left side is that the shift lever may have been bent slightly, check to make sure that it is clearing the engine cover adequately. My LT had been dropped before I got it and the lever was slightly bent and contacting the engine cover, did not affect down shift but up encountered resistance, tweaked it a little and now shifts smooth.

As for the turn signal, stumped unless there is a wire that got jostled just enough in the tip to make contact at a spot where the insulation is scraped off or a loosened connection.

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Re: Joined tipover club today now got problems

Possibly a weak turn lamp filament that broke when bike thumped over. Are all bulbs operating on right hand side, or is one burned out?

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Re: Joined tipover club today now got problems

Thanks for your help guys, am still waiting to hear from the garage, should know in an hour or so.

The bike droped on the right hand side, probably something to do with the right hand indicator staying on?

It is a 2002 model.

Will let you know the outcome.

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I bought my 2006 LT used with 1900 miles,, and within 30 days had into the BMW dealer here in Utah with a shift problem ,, hanging up in N and not allowing me to shift into 2 nd,, bit of a pain when it decides to do it 50 miles out on ride.. First trip in the dealer listed NPF or no problem found.. I rode it for 100 miles problem back, 2 nd trip in I told them I had other bikes to ride ( my Harley had 60 k on it as was running fine ) they could keep the LT til they figured it out. I just looked up the warranty repair,, here is what they listed " trans needs shift drum and forks " . After this repair everything has worked perfect for 20k miles..
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+1 on checking the shifter ball stud lube and possible interference. As to the signal, it is very possible the plastic housing on the right handle bar it just tweaked a little. The dealer may take the plastic bits apart find nothing and put it back together to find it suddenly works. I had a long term problem with mine where no matter how much the dealer and I lubed and tried to adjust the parts the cancel would stick making it act like there were no turn signals until I pushed the cancel back the other way. Eventually I took it all apart and as I reassembled it I very carefully snugged each screw equally until it was back together. Magic! It seems it was just a matter of too much pressure on one side of the housing. Good luck!

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Thanks Guys, am back home in UK now having travelled up from Southern Germany in a Renault Megane hire car (courtesy of the RAC who have been great). The dealer has claimed its a massive transmission failure and wanted 3500 euros to repair. I told the RAC I didnt trust his assesment (see my first post in this thread) and wanted the bike repatriating to the UK which they have agreed upon.

I'm sure I can get the work done for considerably less than 3500 euros even if it is gearbox failure, which I somehow doubt.

Thanks for your help will keep you updated.
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As way of an update, just had the bike returned via rac from Germany. This is one special BMW I will tell you because somehow it's managed to repair its terminal gearbox failure whilst on a trailer.....can you believe it, I assume that the mechanic at the garage may have taken the footrest/gear lever off looked at the size of the job and replaced it quoting 3500 euros to repair it. I am going to do some investigation into the gear linkage and am pleased that I'm not looking at a gearbox replacement however if the muppet at the garage had done his job properly I would have been able to finish my holiday on the bike rather than in a Renault Megane.

Can anyone simply explain how to get the footrest/gear lever off please, is it straightforward.

Thanks for your support.

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Re: Joined tipover club today now got problems

Andy,

This Article should help. The little locking clips can be a pain. Once you undo the three bolts and move the plate out a bit you can see the clip on the top end and just lever it around then pull straight out. Then the link will pop off the ball stud.

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Re: Joined tipover club today now got problems

Odd - dropping the bike on the right side and having shifting problems does not go hand in
hand. As for the blinking right signal that could be attributed to the drop on the right hand
side and hitting the handle bar controls in some manner.

Is is possible your left foot got caught in the shifter mechanism and you bent some of the
linkage - heavy boots, large feet - as you fell to the right side???

As for total transmission failure - sounds like a dealer trying to maximize profits with minimal
investigation / effort!! I do not believe I have ever heard in the past 10 years of a K1200LT
tipping / falling over and losing a transmission at less than 1 mph!! Of course there is always
the first time and frankly many guys who have issues do not always pop up on line and tell
us of their woes and there are others that never stop!!

Good luck and let us know what happens in the continuing saga!!

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As way of an update, just had the bike returned via rac from Germany. This is one special BMW I will tell you because somehow it's managed to repair its terminal gearbox failure whilst on a trailer.....can you believe it, I assume that the mechanic at the garage may have taken the footrest/gear lever off looked at the size of the job and replaced it quoting 3500 euros to repair it. I am going to do some investigation into the gear linkage and am pleased that I'm not looking at a gearbox replacement however if the muppet at the garage had done his job properly I would have been able to finish my holiday on the bike rather than in a Renault Megane.

Can anyone simply explain how to get the footrest/gear lever off please, is it straightforward.

Thanks for your support.

Andy
You got a good one! Not many self heal something as serious as a 3500 Euro gear box. What a scheister the mechanic was.

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