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OK guys, I bought this bike 5/11/12 with 7,923 miles and as of 6/27/12 I have 14,051 miles. In Colorado while pulling my Bunkhouse (solo) through the passes I managed to scrape the centerstand on both sides. Later while chauffeuring the wife around on a photo expedition the scraping was worse. This continued after the MOA National in Missouri while riding the twisties in Arkansas. It got so bad that I ripped off my brand new Ilium Works sidestand foot (I found it in the middle of a curve on the way back from a beer run to Big Flat Arkansas). Now for the pertinent information. Stock suspension, pre-load adjuster fully tightened, tires full (42F 48R). What are your suggestions (remember that I'm a cheap bastard)? I will assume I need to add oil to the adjuster but what else will give me the most bang for the buck? I just can't see dropping $1,500.00 - $1,700.00 on Ohlin's on a bike with this low mileage (besides I only paid $6,950.00 for the bike (Remember the cheap bastard statement?)). Help me guys!

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Re: 2000 K12LT Suspention Questions

Hyperpro springs good option - the shock part of your struts should be fine - mine like new at 50K miles

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have you tried refilling the preload adjuster?

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Re: 2000 K12LT Suspention Questions

My '05 is a lovely bike - a given, however, we tour fully loaded and maxxed out at 600 Kg. The back end is far too soft in standard trim and scraping really annoys and can be a safety issue if cornering and you run out of lean angle (worse with EHCS). Hyperpro springs appear to be a solution reading on here, however I went for the Wilbers option front and rear. Cheap bastard or not, I guarantee you will smile when they are fitted and you feel the difference, and the pleasure will last long after the $$$ are forgotten about. My opinion only, it comes down to finances of course.

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have you tried refilling the preload adjuster?

Not yet, but that is in the works. I'm just thinking that after 12 years the spring has sagged somewhat. It is a straight rate spring is it not?
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Hyperpro springs good option - the shock part of your struts should be fine - mine like new at 50K miles
Part #s and supplier please. Also anyone have drawings for a spring compressor? Front and rear both.

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The cheap way out is new springs, there have been a few folks here that use Hyperpro springs and think they do the job quite well. EPM performance imports here carries them, you will need to call and have them select the spring right for your use. Then you will either have them install or find a local shop that can swap the coils for you.

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My '05 is a lovely bike - a given, however, we tour fully loaded and maxxed out at 600 Kg. The back end is far too soft in standard trim and scraping really annoys and can be a safety issue if cornering and you run out of lean angle (worse with EHCS). Hyperpro springs appear to be a solution reading on here, however I went for the Wilbers option front and rear. Cheap bastard or not, I guarantee you will smile when they are fitted and you feel the difference, and the pleasure will last long after the $$$ are forgotten about. My opinion only, it comes down to finances of course.

Thanks, Dennis. Finances are a bit tight at the moment as I am also paying for a new to me tractor. Wife said BACK OFF! I need to sell my old tractor and my '94 K1100LT and probably the 1986 R65 also. (The '76 R90S and the '81 R80GS STAY.)

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The cheap way out is new springs, there have been a few folks here that use Hyperpro springs and think they do the job quite well. EPM performance imports here carries them, you will need to call and have them select the spring right for your use. Then you will either have them install or find a local shop that can swap the coils for you.
Thanks, John. I live out in the boonies. The only local dealer is a Yamaha/Suzuki shop. I can build a spring compressor if I have drawings/specs. I have lathes, mill, TIG and MIG welders etc. I have the tools and I'm not afraid to use them.

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Re: 2000 K12LT Suspention Questions

EPM springs in New Jersey - only 2 selections - progressive or lowering - I would not put lowering on
http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthre...=spring+change
http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthre...yperPro+Spring

I can you a scan of the plate (3/8 steel) that you can cut out if you have torches

lots of info in those 2 threads and others

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EPM springs in New Jersey - only 2 selections - progressive or lowering - I would not put lowering on
http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthre...=spring+change
http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthre...yperPro+Spring

I can you a scan of the plate (3/8 steel) that you can cut out if you have torches

lots of info in those 2 threads and others
Thanks, Gary. I have torches and access to plasma (even CNC plasma if necessary).

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http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...fbr_mEyf37Okdw
I am sure this method with the straps would work with the FRONT spring

I used my car spring spring compressor but it was dicey, fingers on it too big for rear spring gap when compressed - will scan drawing of plate for rear and attach it
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Spring UP or Weight down ... as in diet some

Remembering the "Cheap Bastard Part" ... eating less and bulking down save moneys needed for upgrading to better WILBERS shocks.

I figure this no help what so ever ... But hey, got what ya paid for ya cheap bastard

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Thanks, John. I live out in the boonies. The only local dealer is a Yamaha/Suzuki shop. I can build a spring compressor if I have drawings/specs. I have lathes, mill, TIG and MIG welders etc. I have the tools and I'm not afraid to use them.

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An even cheaper way to help that weak spring is to disassemble the rear shock and add steel washers to the bottom between the bottom spring seat and spring- I just did this on a buddy's 01'. Found the washers in a truck shop, put three of them in there to 'preload' the sping about 1/2 of an inch. Worked beautifully! I was surprised at how well, on standard setting the sidestand was perfectly flat. PS I used a shop press to compress the spring and disassemble.
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You will be surprised how just adding oil to the shock will help.
Mine had no resistance when turning the adjuster and I didn't know the diff till I read on here about it!
I have yet to scrape now in turns with 2 up even..but together we we only weigh in at around 300...this bike rocks!

On another note I seen my first 1600 tonight down at a hang put at the beach..holy cow that thing really rocks!
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Spring UP or Weight down ... as in diet some

Remembering the "Cheap Bastard Part" ... eating less and bulking down save moneys needed for upgrading to better WILBERS shocks.

I figure this no help what so ever ... But hey, got what ya paid for ya cheap bastard

All in fun,
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Hey! I'm down to 241. That's not too bad for 6'2" and 60 years old! I really did laugh out loud at your post Scott. Cheap bastards forever!

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I also have a set of shocks with Hyperpro springs you are welcome to borrow.

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Thanks, Dan. The only problem with borrowing shocks is that I hate doing a job twice. When I make up my mind which direction to go (and when I have the money) I'll look into borrowing the compressor. BTW I did enjoy the tech session.
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An even cheaper way to help that weak spring is to disassemble the rear shock and add steel washers to the bottom between the bottom spring seat and spring- I just did this on a buddy's 01'. Found the washers in a truck shop, put three of them in there to 'preload' the sping about 1/2 of an inch. Worked beautifully! I was surprised at how well, on standard setting the sidestand was perfectly flat. PS I used a shop press to compress the spring and disassemble.
Sounds good. Appeals to my cheapness. I do have a lathe and could make a one piece ring.

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I've had my K1200LT for about 20 months. Had 19,324 on her when I got it and now it's over 49,6xx. I had a little problem of scraping things for the first months of learning to ride it. When the wife and I rode double I had to turn the preload adjuster almost all the way down and is was still bad on her back when we hit RR tracks or a hard bump. Then I read the article on checking and refilling the preload adjuster. Cleaned mine and did the refill as per articles on this site. Made all the difference in the world on my bike. Now with her on the bike I only go one notch past the red middle marker and that is a good ride for us.

I'm 191 lbs tonight and the wife is 160 or so and we pull a Hannigan Europa trailer. I run Metzler ME880's at 42 and 48 as per this site and I'm on the shocks that came on it in '99. These shocks may be weak, I don't know, but they don't feel like it and this bike rides and handles head and shoulders above my '02 GL1800.

I'm also a fairly cheap one and I figure that a few oz of fluid and a little time is much easier on the wallet than new springs and/or shocks.

Just my thoughts... your mileage might vary -

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You will be surprised how just adding oil to the shock will help.
Mine had no resistance when turning the adjuster and I didn't know the diff till I read on here about it!
I have yet to scrape now in turns with 2 up even..but together we we only weigh in at around 300...this bike rocks!

On another note I seen my first 1600 tonight down at a hang put at the beach..holy cow that thing really rocks!
Thanks, Bones. I very rarely ride two up (wife has been riding her own bike for 41 years) so myself and the tongue weight of my trailer add up to about 280, I don't know the weight of the luggage contents but would guess 40-50 lbs. I'm afraid to get on a scale with the fully loaded rig. I may try adding oil to the pre-load adjuster this weekend.

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Re: 2000 K12LT Suspention Questions

I have the HyperPro Springs but cannot find anyone to install them on my shocks. Hoping to borrow a spring compressor soon.

Refilling my preload did make a H-U-G-E difference. Is like a different bike!

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I've had my K1200LT for about 20 months. Had 19,324 on her when I got it and now it's over 49,6xx. I had a little problem of scraping things for the first months of learning to ride it. When the wife and I rode double I had to turn the preload adjuster almost all the way down and is was still bad on her back when we hit RR tracks or a hard bump. Then I read the article on checking and refilling the preload adjuster. Cleaned mine and did the refill as per articles on this site. Made all the difference in the world on my bike. Now with her on the bike I only go one notch past the red middle marker and that is a good ride for us.

I'm 191 lbs tonight and the wife is 160 or so and we pull a Hannigan Europa trailer. I run Metzler ME880's at 42 and 48 as per this site and I'm on the shocks that came on it in '99. These shocks may be weak, I don't know, but they don't feel like it and this bike rides and handles head and shoulders above my '02 GL1800.

I'm also a fairly cheap one and I figure that a few oz of fluid and a little time is much easier on the wallet than new springs and/or shocks.

Just my thoughts... your mileage might vary -
Thanks, Tommy. That's my plan for now. I'll report back later.

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Re: 2000 K12LT Suspention Questions

Filling the pre-load adjuster only goes so far for so long. I am at the end as the springs have just compressed too much. Gonna get me some of them HyperPro springs , uh huh. (In Sling Blade tone of voice)

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Bear in mind the reason you have a pre-load adjuster is to change the spring load. You always want to be in the middle of the suspention travel with your road weight in a static position. That weight changes as you go two up and hang a trailer on. So measure your total suspention travel and if you can't adjust the suspention to be in the middle of that travel you need a different spring.

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Robert, I am going to get the Hypro springs soon and the Master Dan is going to make it look easy. Lets do them together. I have 83K and am tires of scraping on small corners.

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Hey, Bonsey, if there is room maybe I will come down and put my springs on as well. Whaddyathink?

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Hey, Bonsey, if there is room maybe I will come down and put my springs on as well. Whaddyathink?

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Robert, I am going to get the Hypro springs soon and the Master Dan is going to make it look easy. Lets do them together. I have 83K and am tires of scraping on small corners.
Now you guys are going to make my wife shoot me!

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+1 on refilling the spring preload adjuster. Just did mine, as did two buddies, and we're all commenting how much better it is. I was surprised at the difference, and it's only $5 for some new brake fluid to do it with...... Seems super cheap to me (and that's the way I like it) to start here, then if that's no good you're looking at minimum new springs. Not only was the preload adjuster refill cheap, it took maybe 5 mins to do.....

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+1 on refilling the spring preload adjuster. Just did mine, as did two buddies, and we're all commenting how much better it is. I was surprised at the difference, and it's only $5 for some new brake fluid to do it with...... Seems super cheap to me (and that's the way I like it) to start here, then if that's no good you're looking at minimum new springs. Not only was the preload adjuster refill cheap, it took maybe 5 mins to do.....

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OK, tell your wife I want your lathe.

Bones, get your springs ordered and I will schedule a tech session.
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The solution for the drooping rear end on my '62 Chevy when I was 16 with no money .......

http://www.midwayautosupply.com/pc-1...ers-18902.aspx

Should appeal to cheap bastards everywhere. Except they pop out when you hit a bump too hard.

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OK, tell your wife I want your lathe.

Bones, get your springs ordered and I will schedule a tech session.
We will make room for Tony too.

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Dan, I just ordered the springs. (No you can't have the lathe.) They are out of stock till Wednesday when he gets a shipment in from the factory. I'll let you know when I get them.
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Dan, I just ordered the springs. (No you can't have the lathe.) They are out of stock till Wednesday when he gets a shipment in from the factory. I'll let you know when I get them.
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Bones, get your springs ordered and I will schedule a tech session.
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Thanks! Maybe change the damper and check/adjust the valves also whilst we are at it?

The whole valve adjust thing has me stressed.

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Thanks! Maybe change the damper and check/adjust the valves also whilst we are at it?

The whole valve adjust thing has me stressed.
Tony, with what you have been through a valve adjust should be a walk in the park. BTW bring Luc with you, I enjoy his company.

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One might think so, but as intricate and involved as the clutch was, it did not seem to have to potential to take the engine FUBAR with the mere maladjustment of one screw. Some of the posts about problems after valve adjustment scare me!

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Sure, no problem. I can break your camshafts too.

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Tony and Dan, I inspected the broken cam in question and believe that it had a pre-existing crack and would have failed eventually with catastrophic results.

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Thanks, Bones. I very rarely ride two up (wife has been riding her own bike for 41 years) so myself and the tongue weight of my trailer add up to about 280, I don't know the weight of the luggage contents but would guess 40-50 lbs. I'm afraid to get on a scale with the fully loaded rig. I may try adding oil to the pre-load adjuster this weekend.

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you should take dan up on his offer that way if you are happy & i am pretty shure you will
be made a world of diffrence on mine.make shure you install both. all you have to do is buy springs & send them to dan or just buy the spares from him after you test them. i am two up almost always with fully loadad bushtec.and the hyperpro springs work well. i am 220lb & my other half ? but over 100.
i would not mess with shimming old springs i dont think it will do enough to cure your prob.then you will for shure get to do it twice.
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you should take dan up on his offer that way if you are happy & i am pretty shure you will
be made a world of diffrence on mine.make shure you install both. all you have to do is buy springs & send them to dan or just buy the spares from him after you test them. i am two up almost always with fully loadad bushtec.and the hyperpro springs work well. i am 220lb & my other half ? but over 100.
i would not mess with shimming old springs i dont think it will do enough to cure your prob.then you will for shure get to do it twice.
Thanks Bob, I got confirmation of my spring order yesterday. BTW where in BC are you? I was born in Abbottsford and my parents and sister live in Campbell River.

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Thanks Dog. I will study it. I was just in Manitou Springs camping at Lone Duck Campground two weeks ago.

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Thank you Sir!

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Yay my springs came in yesterday. Boy are they purple. Let the spring changing commence!
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i live in delta by the alex fraiser bridge. you will like the diffrence the springs make and they are not too hard to change just be real careful with the brake lines on the front all !
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Yay my springs came in yesterday. Boy are they purple. Let the spring changing commence!
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They sent me the black ones, was expecting purple.

If you want the black ones, I will swap the for your purple ones, provided you got the progressive springs and not straight-line. Black ones are $10 more per each for whatever reason, but they did not charge me extra. Perhaps that is all they had in stock at the time.

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They sent me the black ones, was expecting purple.

If you want the black ones, I will swap the for your purple ones, provided you got the progressive springs and not straight-line. Black ones are $10 more per each for whatever reason, but they did not charge me extra. Perhaps that is all they had in stock at the time.
Thanks Tony. I really don't care about the color since you can't see the springs unless the bike is apart. I will trade if you want the purple. I did get the progressive springs. Any tentative dates for a tech day yet? You have a much longer drive than I do. I've got about 50 miles one way. Robert

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Robert, if you are open to a trade, that would be swell. I do knot know why, but I was a little disappointed to see the black ones. Go figure!

Not sure about dates, that will depend on Dan's availability and also on my wife's duty schedule and my daughter's visitation schedule. I know Dan was planning a trip up here one weekend and there will be two lifts here when he does. Not trying to hijack the location, just putting info out there. I/we would ride down day before and visor ready to go the morning of the tech day.

What works for you, Robert? Bonsey, how is your schedule looking? Dan, what looks best for you, there or here, or is it too soon to tell? Luc?

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