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post #1 of 23 Old Jul 27th, 2012, 6:58 pm Thread Starter
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Hidden radio antenna

I am going to put a radio in my bike that I got from another member and I'm going to use a hidden antenna. I plan on putting it the spot that was vacated by my cannerstectomy. I need a 12v switched power source. Can I get my power from the tail light wire and if I can what color wire would it be? If that is not a good idea where would I be able to get the switched power from?

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post #2 of 23 Old Jul 27th, 2012, 7:09 pm
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Re: Hidden radio antenna

You may want to consider purchasing a fuse block http://www.fuzeblocks.com/ then get power from battery and a relay triggered by the small marker light in the headlight assembly. This would give you a good electrical foundation for adding even more bling AKA accessories.

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Re: Hidden radio antenna

Fairly close is the rear seat heat connector, Green/Brown wire is switched.

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Re: Hidden radio antenna

OK, I have the standard LT with no heated seats. I'm to lazy to go and look but is the wire there even without the heated seats?

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Re: Hidden radio antenna

Unfortunately, most 99s had a different wiring harness leaving out the connectors for heated seats (if it didn't come with heated seats).

It will take some time to get to, there is a connector on the right side for a 12V jack, like the one on the left side that actually has the jack installed.

I've never looked at it but there is a 12V jack on the left hand side of the trunk, behind a passengers elbow.

I imagine that one could take a multitester and find which wire in the barrell connections for the trunk connects with the plus, inner conncetion, of the 12V jack in the trunk.

Disconnect the barrell conncetor and go from one pin to the next while holding the second probe into the 12V jack.

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Re: Hidden radio antenna

Try a TuneTrapper antenna (no affiliation).

Great performance and NO power needed.

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Re: Hidden radio antenna

Tony, where did you mount the Tune Trapper antenna on your LT?

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Re: Hidden radio antenna

also how does it tape into the current setup and mounting of our LT?


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Tony, where did you mount the Tune Trapper antenna on your LT?
Marty,

I have it mounted between the plastic tray and the top case; there is just enough vertical clearance for it to fit.

The antenna lead follows the same path as the factory antenna did, and simply plugs into the antenna input jack the same way the factory lead did.

Make sure you call and order the 16" version so it fits. Not on their website yet, but they are available if you call.

HTH

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Stupid question- since I now stream music via my Zumo to my helmet, I never need the antenna. What would happen if I simply snip the whip?

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Stupid question- since I now stream music via my Zumo to my helmet, I never need the antenna. What would happen if I simply snip the whip?
The paint will peel off the bike.

If you are going to snip the whip, why not pull the top case and remove the mount and coil?

Only four screws to remove the top case, pull it off towards the right side about three inches (no need to remove it from the bike), unscrew the two hex socket screws that hold the antenna mount to the bike, snip the antenna lead, and refasten the top case.

I left the antenna mounting screws in their respective holes after removing the antenna. This way I know where they are in case I ever decide to use those mount points for some other project...

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Re: Hidden radio antenna

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Try a TuneTrapper antenna (no affiliation).

Great performance and NO power needed.

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Marty,

I have it mounted between the plastic tray and the top case; there is just enough vertical clearance for it to fit.

The antenna lead follows the same path as the factory antenna did, and simply plugs into the antenna input jack the same way the factory lead did.

Make sure you call and order the 16" version so it fits. Not on their website yet, but they are available if you call.

HTH

I got a tune trapper and it works well.

I did not want to run mine all the way to the back like deputy5211, so I just stuffed mine up under the left trim panel. I found the antenna cord end under the left trim panel and while I had the left spoiler (lower) off I just stuck it up under there.



Seems to work well, but I have not really listed to the radio that much lately.

I have gotten 500 hours of "This American Life" in MP3 format and have that playing to my SRC of the Schuberth from my iphone for the last 10K miles.

Sure makes the time go by fast.

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Re: Hidden radio antenna

That is a creative place to put it, and leaves one less cord running fore-aft. My only concern would be heat from the engine and/or roadway. Fairly well vented area, so probably not an issue. Not sure what is inside the TT antenna, but I would hope it is not highly heat sensitive.

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That is a creative place to put it, and leaves one less cord running fore-aft. My only concern would be heat from the engine and/or roadway. Fairly well vented area, so probably not an issue. Not sure what is inside the TT antenna, but I would hope it is not highly heat sensitive.
Thanks Deputy, now I have one more thing to worry about..

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Thanks Deputy, now I have one more thing to worry about..
Paul,

Not to worry...there isn't anything in that antenna that would be heat sensitive. It's a called di-pole antenna and has higher gain than a whip antenna. No components other than wire.

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Thanks Deputy, now I have one more thing to worry about..
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Marty,

I have it mounted between the plastic tray and the top case; there is just enough vertical clearance for it to fit.

The antenna lead follows the same path as the factory antenna did, and simply plugs into the antenna input jack the same way the factory lead did.

Make sure you call and order the 16" version so it fits. Not on their website yet, but they are available if you call.

HTH
Hi deputy, u run the antenna wire all the way from the radio unit to the back of the bike? I ordered one with two foot antenna wire, wondering is it long enough?
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Marty,

I have it mounted between the plastic tray and the top case; there is just enough vertical clearance for it to fit.

The antenna lead follows the same path as the factory antenna did, and simply plugs into the antenna input jack the same way the factory lead did.

Make sure you call and order the 16" version so it fits. Not on their website yet, but they are available if you call.

HTH
Hi deputy, u run the antenna wire all the way from the radio unit to the back of the bike? I ordered one with two foot antenna wire, wondering is it long enough? That will be quite a lot of parts to remove? This will be my first attempt to remove the bike apart...
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Two foot wire will NOT be enough to reach from the back of the bike to the radio connector.

Think about it, is it two feet or less from top case to radio? You can pick up an extension cable at Rat Shack, though.

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darn, they have sent it out... looks like i have to send it for extension and hopefully it will not reduce the performance of the antenna....
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Radio Shack, Best Buy, or some electronics store should have an extension.

You might also order a duplicate unit with the longer lead and return the first.

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