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strobes on an LT

Sometimes, OK often it storms here in FL.

And sometimes it would be nice to have strobe lights on the back of the LT.

I was wondering if anyone ever put strobes into their tail lights like they do for the constructions vehicles I see all over florida

something like this?

http://www.swps.com/whhistkits6.html

or something like this.



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Re: strobes on an LT

In Texas, and I imagine many other states, you can have flashing lights on the back of your bike, but they have to flash at the same time and not wig/wag. I have deceleration flashers on all of the brake lights on the back of my LT. Running hazard lights (flashing tail lights) is generally only permitted when a true hazard exists. I suspect strobing tail lamps may fit the same category and restriction.

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Re: strobes on an LT

The more radical you get the more likely you are to get stopped by a LEO who thinks your equipment is illegal even though it is not. Some LEOs tend to confuse "required equipment" with the "optional equipment" allowed under the FMVSS act and various state statutes. For example..... Kansas "requires" at least one brake lamp which stays on continuously when the brakes are applied. Other flashing lamps may be installed to operate in conjunction with the brake lamp which is what I have done. I had about a five minute conversation with a state trooper a couple of years ago as he thought that the "required" equipment meant that was all I could have. I had to explain to him that state statute specifically allows additional lighting to be installed. So do your homework and carry a copy of the state statutes if you want to get too far from stock.


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Re: strobes on an LT

Good advise, Dean.

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Re: strobes on an LT

I like the video, but it would be nicer to have something that hooks into the 4way emergency flasher.

I bet the under the trunk rack lights could be wired into the 4 way.

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I like the video, but it would be nicer to have something that hooks into the 4way emergency flasher.

I bet the under the trunk rack lights could be wired into the 4 way.
If you tap into the 4-way circuit before the flasher, you could use a relay to trigger your strobes to flash when the 4-way circuit was energized.

Hmmmm... I am starting to like this idea. Will try to pull out the Clymer today to find the wire to trigger the relay, unless someone already knows which wire and where. Envisioning using triple LED surface mounts mounted under top case rack if they fit. Would use a multi-pin deutche connector to provide easy disconnect when removing top case.

Those LED units are available from Gall's for $39-$59 each, and come in choice of colors. They offer their private label as well a Whelan, Code3, and others. SuperBrightLEDs also offer similar style for about $49.

OK you electronics whizzes... Could these be fed by multiple relays, one energized by 4-way circuit and other by brake lamp circuit, allowing the LED strobes to be powered by either? What would happen if one tapped brakes while 4-way engaged, causing power to flow from BOTH relays at same time??

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Re: strobes on an LT

All you need is two diodes from Radio Shack. I use the 1000 volt 1 amp diodes. Then you feed both positive supply lines through diodes to some of these http://www.oznium.com/led-modules via an LED flasher unit. Or... tap into both turn signal bulbs and feed them directly to the LED modules through the diodes and tap the brake lamp, feeding it via a diode and flasher unit. Pretty simple stuff as long as you keep in mind the diodes allow electricity to flow only in one direction. They isolate the multiple circuits from each other so there's no interference between the two.


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Re: strobes on an LT

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Sometimes, OK often it storms here in FL.

And sometimes it would be nice to have strobe lights on the back of the LT.

I was wondering if anyone ever put strobes into their tail lights like they do for the constructions vehicles I see all over florida

something like this?

http://www.swps.com/whhistkits6.html

or something like this.



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When it is bad enough to want to use a strobe, and I've been caught a few times in them, I really want to get off the road. Too dangerous for me to be riding. Seems like the cages like to get closer when the weather is bad! Just guessing, but I don't think that would be legal in Florida.

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Re: strobes on an LT

Most up to date that I could find....
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The 2005 Florida Statutes Chapter 316
316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.--

(1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided.

(2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.

(3) Vehicles of the fire department and fire patrol, including vehicles of volunteer firefighters as permitted under s. 316.2398, vehicles of medical staff physicians or technicians of medical facilities licensed by the state as authorized under s. 316.2398, ambulances as authorized under this chapter, and buses and taxicabs as authorized under s. 316.2399 are permitted to show or display red lights. Vehicles of the fire department, fire patrol, police vehicles, and such ambulances and emergency vehicles of municipal and county departments, public service corporations operated by private corporations, the Department of Environmental Protection, the Department of Transportation, and the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services as are designated or authorized by their respective department or the chief of police of an incorporated city or any sheriff of any county are hereby authorized to operate emergency lights and sirens in an emergency. Wreckers, mosquito control fog and spray vehicles, and emergency vehicles of governmental departments or public service corporations may show or display amber lights when in actual operation or when a hazard exists provided they are not used going to and from the scene of operation or hazard without specific authorization of a law enforcement officer or law enforcement agency. Wreckers must use amber rotating or flashing lights while performing recoveries and loading on the roadside day or night, and may use such lights while towing a vehicle on wheel lifts, slings, or under reach if the operator of the wrecker deems such lights necessary. A flatbed, car carrier, or rollback may not use amber rotating or flashing lights when hauling a vehicle on the bed unless it creates a hazard to other motorists because of protruding objects. Further, escort vehicles may show or display amber lights when in the actual process of escorting overdimensioned equipment, material, or buildings as authorized by law. Vehicles of private watch, guard, or patrol agencies licensed pursuant to chapter 493 may show or display amber lights while patrolling condominium, cooperative, and private residential and business communities by which employed and which traverse public streets or highways.

(4) Road or street maintenance equipment, road or street maintenance vehicles, road service vehicles, refuse collection vehicles, petroleum tankers, and mail carrier vehicles may show or display amber lights when in operation or a hazard exists.

(5) Road maintenance and construction equipment and vehicles may display flashing white lights or flashing white strobe lights when in operation and where a hazard exists. Additionally, school buses and vehicles that are used to transport farm workers may display flashing white strobe lights.

(6) All lighting equipment heretofore referred to shall meet all requirements as set forth in s. 316.241.

(7) Flashing lights are prohibited on vehicles except as a means of indicating a right or left turn, to change lanes, or to indicate that the vehicle is lawfully stopped or disabled upon the highway or except that the lamps authorized in subsections (1), (2), (3), (4), and (9) and s. 316.235(5) are permitted to flash.

(8) Subsections (1) and (7) do not apply to police, fire, or authorized emergency vehicles while in the performance of their necessary duties.

(9) Flashing red lights may be used by emergency response vehicles of the Department of Environmental Protection and the Department of Health when responding to an emergency in the line of duty.

(10) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.

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Re: strobes on an LT

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All you need is two diodes from Radio Shack. I use the 1000 volt 1 amp diodes. Then you feed both positive supply lines through diodes to some of these http://www.oznium.com/led-modules via an LED flasher unit. Or... tap into both turn signal bulbs and feed them directly to the LED modules through the diodes and tap the brake lamp, feeding it via a diode and flasher unit. Pretty simple stuff as long as you keep in mind the diodes allow electricity to flow only in one direction. They isolate the multiple circuits from each other so there's no interference between the two.
Thanks, Dean, for confirming what I thought I remembered. I probably have it backwards, but does the + DC flow into or out of the end with the black stripe on it, or have I totally forgotten how it goes?

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Re: strobes on an LT

The end with the stripe faces away from the battery positive side, (I think) so it points towards the lamps positive connection. I don't use them very often so I use a test bulb and battery to make sure I get it right before I start wiring things up.


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Re: strobes on an LT

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Thanks, Dean, for confirming what I thought I remembered. I probably have it backwards, but does the + DC flow into or out of the end with the black stripe on it, or have I totally forgotten how it goes?
Tony,

Think of the stripe as the negative side of the diode.

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Re: strobes on an LT

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Most up to date that I could find....
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The 2005 Florida Statutes Chapter 316
316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.--

(1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided.

(2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.

(3) Vehicles of the fire department and fire patrol, including vehicles of volunteer firefighters as permitted under s. 316.2398, vehicles of medical staff physicians or technicians of medical facilities licensed by the state as authorized under s. 316.2398, ambulances as authorized under this chapter, and buses and taxicabs as authorized under s. 316.2399 are permitted to show or display red lights. Vehicles of the fire department, fire patrol, police vehicles, and such ambulances and emergency vehicles of municipal and county departments, public service corporations operated by private corporations, the Department of Environmental Protection, the Department of Transportation, and the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services as are designated or authorized by their respective department or the chief of police of an incorporated city or any sheriff of any county are hereby authorized to operate emergency lights and sirens in an emergency. Wreckers, mosquito control fog and spray vehicles, and emergency vehicles of governmental departments or public service corporations may show or display amber lights when in actual operation or when a hazard exists provided they are not used going to and from the scene of operation or hazard without specific authorization of a law enforcement officer or law enforcement agency. Wreckers must use amber rotating or flashing lights while performing recoveries and loading on the roadside day or night, and may use such lights while towing a vehicle on wheel lifts, slings, or under reach if the operator of the wrecker deems such lights necessary. A flatbed, car carrier, or rollback may not use amber rotating or flashing lights when hauling a vehicle on the bed unless it creates a hazard to other motorists because of protruding objects. Further, escort vehicles may show or display amber lights when in the actual process of escorting overdimensioned equipment, material, or buildings as authorized by law. Vehicles of private watch, guard, or patrol agencies licensed pursuant to chapter 493 may show or display amber lights while patrolling condominium, cooperative, and private residential and business communities by which employed and which traverse public streets or highways.

(4) Road or street maintenance equipment, road or street maintenance vehicles, road service vehicles, refuse collection vehicles, petroleum tankers, and mail carrier vehicles may show or display amber lights when in operation or a hazard exists.

(5) Road maintenance and construction equipment and vehicles may display flashing white lights or flashing white strobe lights when in operation and where a hazard exists. Additionally, school buses and vehicles that are used to transport farm workers may display flashing white strobe lights.

(6) All lighting equipment heretofore referred to shall meet all requirements as set forth in s. 316.241.

(7) Flashing lights are prohibited on vehicles except as a means of indicating a right or left turn, to change lanes, or to indicate that the vehicle is lawfully stopped or disabled upon the highway or except that the lamps authorized in subsections (1), (2), (3), (4), and (9) and s. 316.235(5) are permitted to flash.

(8) Subsections (1) and (7) do not apply to police, fire, or authorized emergency vehicles while in the performance of their necessary duties.

(9) Flashing red lights may be used by emergency response vehicles of the Department of Environmental Protection and the Department of Health when responding to an emergency in the line of duty.

(10) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.

So Dan, you think that even yellow that match the 4 way emergency lights would be against the law?

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Re: strobes on an LT

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So Dan, you think that even yellow that match the 4 way emergency lights would be against the law?
Personally, I would stay with the presently available tail light brake flashers that can be added. They are all bright, will get the attention of motorist behind you when you are either slowing down or stopping and you won't have to remember to turn on or off.

A flashing strobe, even if it is tinted yellow, might get the wrong attention, unless you can disable it in normal riding weather and enable it in the real downpours. I'd bet that most officers know the law.

Probably depends on the local LEO and how busy they are at the time.

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