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LT HID Light Comparison

I just finished installing a H3 HID light in my 2004 LT. Both of my LT"s have the 6000 color Hid low beam lights. My 2004 now has the 6000 color HID high beam can you tell the difference ?.
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Very impressive. That should make a huge difference. Where did you get your kits from?
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Wow. looks impressive. NO what about that old chevy next to your garage. Are you looking to sell?

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I just finished installing a H3 HID light in my 2004 LT. Both of my LT"s have the 6000 color Hid low beam lights. My 2004 now has the 6000 color HID high beam can you tell the difference ?.
I'm guessing they're standing side by side. The one on the right looks to be brighter. Am I correct? Did I win anything?

That's interesting. Older threads here mentioned how 6000K was too blue, and therefor not as bright as say the 4000K, but I can't see a blue tint here. Maybe I'm going blind.

Oh, wait a minute. I clicked the thumbnail, and now I can see a whole lot more. Hey, the bikes are side by side. That's a very nice garage.

I do see a blue tinge. It's a miracle! I can see! I've been HEALED! Thank You Jesus!

Seriously though, I'd be interested to also know which brand you went with and supplier.

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NO what about that old chevy next to your garage. Are you looking to sell?
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And there is a slight improvement in the light output of the '04, Dave. Jessie was behind me one day when he switched on his HID high beam. It was like being tailgated by the sun! Since I ride with the high beam on during the day, it would probably be a bad thing for me to install.

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If Dave tried to sell his wife's car, she'd beat him severely about the head, neck, and shoulders! Dave's wife---> <---Dave

Well, in the interest of protecting Dave's physical well-being, maybe he should just give it away, instead of trying to sell it.

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Wow. looks impressive. NO what about that old chevy next to your garage. Are you looking to sell?
That is my wifes main mode of transportation year round & NOT FOR SALE as she puts it.

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I buy the motorcycle kits from www.ddmtuning.com the H3 high beam is not a plug & play by any means. The low beam H7 is an easy install. I think the slight blue tint shows up better in the daylight.

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Last summer I rode with the 6000K for a while and while it reflected off the road signs better than anything I went with a 55w 5000K and am really glad I did. I can now see better at night! Not only can I see better but I am seen MUCH better. The color is different so people notice it!

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Dave, you are going to have to ride in front! Don't want that behind me......

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I buy the motorcycle kits from www.ddmtuning.com the H3 high beam is not a plug & play by any means. The low beam H7 is an easy install. I think the slight blue tint shows up better in the daylight.
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Thanks for the report saddleman, I'm going to look into the low beam install.
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Hi, where does the HID ballast get it's power from. I am definitely going to order this kit, but wanted to make sure the kit is complete with everything I need to upgrade my 02 K1200LT. At $25.00 it seems almost too good to be real.
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Re: LT HID Light Comparison-DUH, I just figured it out...

I see in the supplied PDF that the power to the ballast comes from the red and black spade connectors that connect to the OEM plugs for old light...Easy Peasy, if I could just get to the headlight housing...
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Hi, where does the HID ballast get it's power from. I am definitely going to order this kit, but wanted to make sure the kit is complete with everything I need to upgrade my 02 K1200LT. At $25.00 it seems almost too good to be real.
I'm glad you mentioned the price because I had not yet looked at the DDM's link.

I've placed my order for a low beam and high beam setup.

Woohoo!

I wonder if they have a kit for my HD? Hmmmmm.

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It is a COMPLETE setup (from DDM). Plug and play. No splices, nothing extra. Nada. Works GREAT.

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It is a COMPLETE setup (from DDM). Plug and play. No splices, nothing extra. Nada. Works GREAT.
Dave is claiming the high beam is not plug and play "by any means". Did you install a separate High beam bulb and ballast?

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The one on the right looks a lot more annoying!!! I think there's a line between making yourself safe and blinding the oncoming drivers. Sometimes a little less is more, I'd hate to have a car hit me because he had night blindness and my light triggered him into a blackout!

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Dave is claiming the high beam is not plug and play "by any means". Did you install a separate High beam bulb and ballast?
I should have taken some pictures for the high beam install. I was in a hurry to get it done for this weekends ride to Pensacola. You will need to dremel out the plastic H3 bulb holder to clear the H3 HID bulb. I also had to cut a slot in it to get the wires in. I siliconed the bulb on to the steel holder on both sides.

Once you do this you can not use the stock H3 bulb again with out buying a new plastic & steel part to hold the original H3 bulb.

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I wonder guys, how dependable are the HID lights compared to the "regular" H7? I just bought a new H7 bulb at autozone where they had 5 different levels of brightness to choose from. Of course, they were not the true HID. On the back of the packages, they listed a "life expectancy" comparison between the 5. The normal bulb was expected to last 4 times longer than the brightest two and only 2X brighter than the first two. Though less bright, I bought it. For now. I would go to HID, but I want to have some idea first whether I'll be frequently changing the bulbs. Does anybody know this??

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The bulbs very seldom go bad. It is usually the ballast that goes out. DDM ballast have a lifetime warranty. As cheap as the kits are I keep spares in stock so I don't have to wait to get them warranted.

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Just a tip -- DDM sells kits for quads that have double bulbs and double ballast/ignitors that retails for something like 12 or 14 $$ more than the single kit.

One replacement capsule costs way more than that.

If you are the sort of guy that wants your repair parts at the ready -- especially if your doing some travelling that will take you faaaar faaaaaaaaaaaaaar away -- that might be your hot ticket.

There's also 'Eilenbergers law' that says that any part for which you have a ready spare will never break! ;-)

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Just a tip -- DDM sells kits for quads that have double bulbs and double ballast/ignitors that retails for something like 12 or 14 $$ more than the single kit....
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I wonder guys, how dependable are the HID lights compared to the "regular" H7? I just bought a new H7 bulb at autozone where they had 5 different levels of brightness to choose from. Of course, they were not the true HID. On the back of the packages, they listed a "life expectancy" comparison between the 5. The normal bulb was expected to last 4 times longer than the brightest two and only 2X brighter than the first two. Though less bright, I bought it. For now. I would go to HID, but I want to have some idea first whether I'll be frequently changing the bulbs. Does anybody know this??
Mine has lasted 4 years and counting. Got in on the Fashtech deal.

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FYI...
As an update, just wanted to share my story. I did purchase the low and high beam kits. After much debating with myself, I only installed the 35w low beam kit. I "may" revisit this and install the high beam kit in the winter. It requires modifying the bulb socket, and I was not up to the challenge this time around.

I can say WOW to the light improvement with just the low beam HID. ( I think a low beam 55 watt kit would totally negate the need for the high beam) This is a unbelievably cheap upgrade, that all should do or have done. The plastics are a real PITA, but can be done by a back yard hack like me, or maybe you?

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( I think a low beam 55 watt kit would totally negate the need for the high beam)
Seems like I've read reports about the 55W bulbs being a lot hotter than the 35W. You might do a search and see what others have to say about the higher watt systems. It would be a really bad thing to melt the housing. I can't say that's ever happened. If it were to EVER happen, it would happen to me.

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I am a true beliver in the 55w versions having used both. 55w 5000K

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Seems like I've read reports about the 55W bulbs being a lot hotter than the 35W. You might do a search and see what others have to say about the higher watt systems. It would be a really bad thing to melt the housing. I can't say that's ever happened. If it were to EVER happen, it would happen to me.
There is no difference in the bulb in a 55W and 35W HID. The difference is in the ballast. Not like it is in regular incandescent bulbs. So if you have a 35w kit now and want to upgrade to 55W just buy a new 55W ballast.

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Did you have a problem with the light pattern being different? I did this mod on a Yamaha FZ6 and had to adjust the headlight aim by quite a bit.
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I just finished installing a H3 HID light in my 2004 LT. Both of my LT"s have the 6000 color Hid low beam lights. My 2004 now has the 6000 color HID high beam can you tell the difference ?.
It appears they are of different wattage's, i.e. 35w vs. 55w. I could be wrong .
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I'm glad you mentioned the price because I had not yet looked at the DDM's link.

I've placed my order for a low beam and high beam setup.

Woohoo!

I wonder if they have a kit for my HD? Hmmmmm.
I have bought several sets from them, price is right, replacements are slow, however at that price its worth it.
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There is no difference in the bulb in a 55W and 35W HID. The difference is in the ballast. Not like it is in regular incandescent bulbs. So if you have a 35w kit now and want to upgrade to 55W just buy a new 55W ballast.
John, are you saying the bulb w/ the 55W ballast will not operate at hotter temperature than it would with the 35W ballast?

If so, I'd be interested in how this is accomplished while burning brighter.

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I ordered both the H7 and H9 HID kits for my 2005 LT.
Ordered the 6000K bulbs with the 55w ballasts.....WOW!

I also ordered an extra H7 and H9 kit for spares.
I ordered the 5000K bulbs 55w ballasts as spares.
I will switch out the 6000K to the 5000K to see if I can
tell a big difference in visibility.

It's hard to beat the price from DDM Tuning
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The 55w ballasts are an extra $7.50 each,
but definitely worth it.

Then, I ordered LED replacement bulbs for
my Motolights in 6000K to match.
The standard Motolights were too "Yellow"
compared to the HIDs.

I put almost 50% of my miles riding at night
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John, are you saying the bulb w/ the 55W ballast will not operate at hotter temperature than it would with the 35W ballast?

If so, I'd be interested in how this is accomplished while burning brighter.
Not the same John but;
Just an FYI here IIRC, the "temperature" is a measurement of the wavelength of the light, (your eyes see it as color ) on a light spectrum not brightness. So a 4300 bulb is like incandecent light, 10000 looks blueish. Additionally the highter temperature bulbs do not throw as much light forward because of the shorter wavelength. HTH

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Re: LT HID Light Comparison

Where did you order the led bulbs for the Motolights, I have the 4000 or 4200 k hid which is bright white but like you said the motolights are yellow in comparison.

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Not the same John but;
Just an FYI here IIRC, the "temperature" is a measurement of the wavelength of the light, (your eyes see it as color ) on a light spectrum not brightness. So a 4300 bulb is like incandecent light, 10000 looks blueish. Additionally the highter temperature bulbs do not throw as much light forward because of the shorter wavelength. HTH
Thanks for your input, but when I say temperature in this instance, I'm referring to how hot the bulb actually gets. People have posted that the higher wattage systems supposedly gets the bulb too hot, which melts the headlight housing. This would be my main concern.

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Re: LT HID Light Comparison

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Where did you order the led bulbs for the Motolights, I have the 4000 or 4200 k hid which is bright white but like you said the motolights are yellow in comparison.
The Motolight bulbs are MR16 style "landscaping lights".
Can be found at WalMart, Lowe's, Home Depot, etc....but in 2700-3300K.
Search on eBay for these bulbs in the temp you would like in an LED bulb.
Make sure they are 12 volt. I ordered 6000K for mine, and they look great
with the HIDs.
I ordered mine off eBay from GoSecurity. Out of NJ. $10.50 for both bulbs with free shipping.

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It appears they are of different wattage's, i.e. 35w vs. 55w. I could be wrong .
Same 35 wattage in both bikes.

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