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post #1 of 45 Old May 8th, 2012, 10:28 am Thread Starter
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Stupid blinking Brake Failure light and NYS Inspection?

Ok guys. This is a question for anyone from New York.

I picked up a used K1200LT. When I start it up, I get the annoying "Brake Failure" light flashing until I start moving the bike forward. (A totally moronic idea, since it is telling you your breaks won't work, and you can't verify that until you need them, but I digress.)

I have owned several brands of bikes before, and none have every done this as a normal test routine.

There are NO BMW repair shops within 150 miles from my home.

Do you think a regular bike repair shop that does Asian and American bikes know about this, or do you think I would fail inspection because no other manufacturer does this?

Many thanks for your thoughts...

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Normal. That is the ABS computer checking the wheel sensors. If the ABS fails, this light will come on telling you the ABS is not working.

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Nothing to repair its doing what its supposed to do, its normal behavior.

You've owned several brands of bikes before without ABS this bike has ABS

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Re: Stupid blinking Brake Failure light and NYS Inspection?

As pointed out, this is how it is supposed to work! Read your owner's manual.

Some brands use a timer to cancel the brake/ABS check function, others work only when it is put in gear and rolling. Not sure why that qualifies as "moronic."

You've probably got a REAL issue if it doesn't go out when in gear - to the tune of $2K.


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Re: Stupid blinking Brake Failure light and NYS Inspection?

It really would be nice if the ABS-lights wouldn't flash until something really is broken. Wouldn't it? That is just not the way Helmut has built the beast. The reason perhaps being that those bloody lights tell quite a lot with their blinking in the different phases from turning the power on until you start riding.

So BMW-GŁnther has designed it to operate like that... But Hey - consider yourself driving a very fancy & scientific machine needing a lot more attention than average car. You really do know ABS being functional when those lights stop blinking.... And you feel having done something important watching and checking them to stop...

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I think what the "orig poster" meant was that if a state inspection station/non BMW shop is not familiar with this feature of the LT....they will think it has a faulty brake system and it will not pass the state inspection.
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As pointed out, this is how it is supposed to work! Read your owner's manual.

Some brands use a timer to cancel the brake check function, others work only when it is put in gear. Not sure why that qualifies as "moronic."

You've probably got a REAL issue if it doesn't go out when in gear - to the tune of $2K.

Well, it qualifies as 'moronic' since there is no way to know if the breaks are really working, until you TRY to use them. To keep blinking the dang light until your moving makes the brake failure light worthless!

Lets explore that:

Scenario 1: Brakes working: Brake failure light blinks until you start moving. Phew! The light went out now that I am moving, it's a good thing, since I will need them to stop this beast!

Scenario 2: Brakes NOT working: Brake failure light blinks, I ignore, since this is NORMAL. I pull out in traffic, and need to stop, but, geee whiz, no breaks! It would have been really useful if I had an actual warning that the brakes didn't work before I started moving! <<<BANG>>>



Anyways, my point was not to reopen this can of worms, but simply to gather input of other NYS riders, would a normal, non-bmw bike shop know this? Is this typical on other touring bikes the the wing?

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P.S. The bike didn't come with a owner's manual btw.... It would have been real useful if it did....
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Well, it qualifies as 'moronic' since there is no way to know if the breaks are really working, until you TRY to use them. To keep blinking the dang light until your moving makes the brake failure light worthless!

Lets explore that:

Scenario 1: Brakes working: Brake failure light blinks until you start moving. Phew! The light went out now that I am moving, it's a good thing, since I will need them to stop this beast!

Scenario 2: Brakes NOT working: Brake failure light blinks, I ignore, since this is NORMAL. I pull out in traffic, and need to stop, but, geee whiz, no breaks! It would have been really useful if I had an actual warning that the brakes didn't work before I started moving! <<<BANG>>>



Anyways, my point was not to reopen this can of worms, but simply to gather input of other NYS riders, would a normal, non-bmw bike shop know this? Is this typical on other touring bikes the the wing?

Paul


P.S. The bike didn't come with a owner's manual btw.... It would have been real useful if it did....
Stop being a ****on. The light will stop immediately the bike starts rolling if everything is AOK. If not yoy know and have time to stop it safely.

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Re: Stupid blinking Brake Failure light and NYS Inspection?

If your bike moves more then a few feet and the light keeps blinking then you know you have a problem.

I would rather have it blink to let me know that the system is active as opposed to it not blinking and having utterly no idea if I have brakes or not.

Also the Search function here is a wonderful replacement for the missing manual.

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Re: Stupid blinking Brake Failure light and NYS Inspection?

And just so you know.. There is no such thing as no brakes.. No power brakes maybe.. NO ABS maybe but never, NEVER, No brakes...

You'll be able to stop just fine...

And you'll be able to educate the knucklehead at the state inspection station by rolling the bike about ten feet...You'll also hear the "chirp, chirp" as the ABS pump self tests..
The reason for the roll out is to test the wheel sensors...

Remember, Stupid is as stupid does....

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Re: Stupid blinking Brake Failure light and NYS Inspection?

Blinking together is part of the self-test sequence. Wig-wag indicates a failure in the system. I'm surprised you didn't notice this or have it explained on your test ride.


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Scenario 1: Brakes working: Brake failure light blinks until you start moving. Phew! The light went out now that I am moving, it's a good thing, since I will need them to stop this beast!


Scenario 2: Brakes NOT working: Brake failure light blinks, I ignore, since this is NORMAL. I pull out in traffic, and need to stop, but, geee whiz, no breaks!

I think you're confused as to what is actually going on here. If you look carefully you'll see the check lights are imprinted with "ABS" - NOT "Brake failure".

Depending on what year you have (since you didn't mention it in your post) there are two possible scenarios that can happen with an LT and loss of ABS.

1. The earlier model's brakes will work absolutely great - even without ABS assistance. It takes a lot of "whoa boy" to have ABS engage. In 240K of riding LT's I've only had them engage TWICE - once when a cager pulled out in front of me on pavement, and once on gravel. I have - and still do - go out twice a year and practice panic braking. It's probably the most neglected and yet most important skill any motorcyclist can obtain. There's no substitute for muscle memory.

2. Later model's brakes will still work, but not nearly up to snuff if the ABS fails since I'm pretty sure the power assist feature is lost as well. This may have been purposely engineered to keep you from riding without full braking power.

As John mentioned, the rollout/flashing is to test the sensors to make sure they are reporting correctly and within the design parameters. I would much rather have an active versus passive test, and apparently that is exactly what was on the mind of the engineers when they built it.

I think it's brilliant - and especially so considering the technology was placed on this particular bike starting in 1999 - and engineered several years prior to that. I can't recall ANY full sized touring bike that had this feature back then. Very clever if you ask me!

Buy a manual. Read it.

You'll feel like a genius when you explain to your buddies (and the safety Nazis) how sophisticated your BMW's ABS system really is.


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Why bother 'splaining to OP. Obviously he just wants to bellyache and complain about his "breaks". Should have bought a Honda. RTFM!!!!!

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Why bother 'splaining to OP. Obviously he just wants to bellyache and complain about his "breaks". Should have bought a Honda. RTFM!!!!!
LOL, just trying to help a brother out.

But..... apparently it isn't sinking it very well since he asked the exact same question on April 10th - but apparently didn't like the answer either and retorted:

"What bonehead engineer in Germany thought it would be a good idea to flash Brake Failure, until you started to move a bike? Eeesh....."

Probably caused by lack of O2.


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LOL, just trying to help a brother out.

But..... apparently it isn't sinking it very well since he asked the exact same question on April 10th - but apparently didn't like the answer either and retorted:

"What bonehead engineer in Germany thought it would be a good idea to flash Brake Failure, until you started to move a bike? Eeesh....."

Probably caused by lack of O2.
Actually, it did sink in. If you took the time to read my entire post, I had asked about the DANG NYS INSPECTION!!!!!

I understand the stupid dang light! And no, IT DOES NOT BLINK ABS AT ALL, JUST THE DANG "BREAK FAILURE" LIGHT!

My god, get off your high horse people, I didn't call your mother a whore, I just commented, (and still believe) that if the system is doing a self test, it should say TEST, not a red, blinking "BRAKE FAILURE" light!

Again, for those of you who are O2 deprived, to be very clear, "I NEVER MENTIONED *ANYTHING ABOUT ABS LIGHTS*!!!!!

anyways, if anyone would be kind enough to answer my ACTUAL QUESTION IN THE POST, I was asking if any NYS bikers had any trouble getting their bike inspected by a non-BMW dealer. That was all.

Damn, say one critical thing about your beloved bike, and people flip out! Its a bike, not a religion!
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The RT does the same thing.
Nothing to fix on it. Your other motorcycle mechanics may, or may not know that the BMW behaves like that.
I'm not from New York. I don't know about inspections. We sure don't have any inspections here. We don't need none.
Here, you just get on your bike and ride.
Then the abs light goes out. If all is well.
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Don't know about NY, but in Mass I have never had an issue getting an inspection at a Suzuki dealership. I suggest you go get an inspection and if necessary educate the inspector. Sorry I don't live in NY, so that is the best advice I have.

On another note, you are old enough to have learned that being new to any group sarcasm in a typed message is usually counter productive.

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He is right Ron, The later bikes say "Brake Failure" not "ABS Warning" on the dash. Our other LT brothers out on Long Island don't have a problem at their inspection stations. Maybe ride out there next time.

Oops, Buffalo is a bit far to run to LI for an inspection, but then that's what the LT was made for - long road trips. Enjoy.
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Thank you guys. That was all I was asking. Did any NY riders have problems getting NYS inspections from non-bmw dealers.

I was just trying to avoid headaches. Didn't mean to start a flame war, and certainly not with the senior members of the forum.

Thank you to the guys that were polite enough to actually answer my question, and not just flame me for part of the message.

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Welcome back to normalcy Paul. Give Rob (RVB1019) a PM shout and he can give you the low down from the Long Island perspective. I felt your pain as I had auto inspection issues in Texas once - 'ain't no fun.

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Actually, it did sink in. If you took the time to read my entire post, I had asked about the DANG NYS INSPECTION!!!!!

I understand the stupid dang light! And no, IT DOES NOT BLINK ABS AT ALL, JUST THE DANG "BREAK FAILURE" LIGHT!

My god, get off your high horse people, I didn't call your mother a whore, I just commented, (and still believe) that if the system is doing a self test, it should say TEST, not a red, blinking "BRAKE FAILURE" light!

Again, for those of you who are O2 deprived, to be very clear, "I NEVER MENTIONED *ANYTHING ABOUT ABS LIGHTS*!!!!!

anyways, if anyone would be kind enough to answer my ACTUAL QUESTION IN THE POST, I was asking if any NYS bikers had any trouble getting their bike inspected by a non-BMW dealer. That was all.

Damn, say one critical thing about your beloved bike, and people flip out! Its a bike, not a religion!
Ahh, Ok - you have a 2005 or later model. If you would have mentioned that in your first post it would have been a big help. It has the brake failure light in the lower left hand corner of the instrument nacelle versus the two ABS lights side by side in the earliest models. If I recall correctly it has the same function: to let you know there is something wrong with the ABS.

Your "breaks" will still work with your Brake Failure light flashing - even though in your criticism calling it "stupid, moronic, and bonehead" - you are obviously under the impression that they won't:

"I pull out in traffic, and need to stop, but, geee whiz, no breaks!"

"A totally moronic idea, since it is telling you your breaks won't work, and you can't verify that until you need them."


...and, like I said before, if you would take the time to read or procure an owner's manual you would have the knowledge needed - before you go in for a safety check - to educate the inspector on the function of the system. You can download one for free from BMW.

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No high horse here....

The "ABS" lights,or (later models) "Brake Failure" lights slow flashing (in unison on older models) at startup IS the way BMW lets you know the system is working. It is only awaiting enough motion through the abs ring to verify THAT part of the system is operating properly. The brakes still work during this process. On older models, it also shows that both bulbs are good. Fast flashing, (older wig-wag), and no light(s) let you know something is wrong.

The comments you are getting (that are upsetting you) are due to the you not doing an in depth search on your own first, and especially demeaning comments about a system that you don't have enough knowledge about to make such comments. The system makes perfect sense, and BMW just chose not to add another warning annunciator light to the panel. It is kinda like why they didn't put an "Oil Pressure OK" light on the bike. Again, I hope you are not offended by some guys asking you to perform a search for answers first, then ask. This site has thousands of pages, plus hundreds of thousands of questions and answers. If no search was done, better put on your flame suit.....

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Thank you guys. That was all I was asking. Did any NY riders have problems getting NYS inspections from non-bmw dealers.

I was just trying to avoid headaches. Didn't mean to start a flame war, and certainly not with the senior members of the forum.

Thank you to the guys that were polite enough to actually answer my question, and not just flame me for part of the message.

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I'm still ridding on the inspection sticker that was on the bike..good till Oct.
I do think I'm supposed to get it done over now that I own it..dunno.
Anyways someday maybe we can get together and ride...maybe even talk about the fanatics on here..lol.

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... better put on your flame suit.....
or at least your big boy undies...

Yes, you asked about the NYS inspection (which should NOT be an issue since the system is functioning as designed, and surely the inspector will roll (or more likely, have YOU roll) the bike forward more than a few feet. Here in Texas you have to demonstrate that brakes are working by actually stopping the bike from a specified speed in a specified distance.

BUT, you also proceeded to spew forth a bunch of hooey as has already been pointed out. FWIW, it is not about talking bad about the "beloved" LT, it about being... well... I think that has already been pointed out as well.

Regardless, welcome to your LT and welcome, too, to the asylum. You will do just fine here, just chill for a bit as you first dip your toes in the water.

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Actually, it did sink in. If you took the time to read my entire post, I had asked about the DANG NYS INSPECTION!!!!!

I understand the stupid dang light! And no, IT DOES NOT BLINK ABS AT ALL, JUST THE DANG "BREAK FAILURE" LIGHT!

My god, get off your high horse people, I didn't call your mother a whore, I just commented, (and still believe) that if the system is doing a self test, it should say TEST, not a red, blinking "BRAKE FAILURE" light!

Again, for those of you who are O2 deprived, to be very clear, "I NEVER MENTIONED *ANYTHING ABOUT ABS LIGHTS*!!!!!

anyways, if anyone would be kind enough to answer my ACTUAL QUESTION IN THE POST, I was asking if any NYS bikers had any trouble getting their bike inspected by a non-BMW dealer. That was all.

Damn, say one critical thing about your beloved bike, and people flip out! Its a bike, not a religion!
BMW needs the "brake failure" annunciator and adding in a second annunciator just adds unnecessary cost and another bulb to fail. Using the "failure" indicator also makes sense for a couple of other reasons:

1. It is always safer to assume an safety system is broken until proven otherwise. Flashing this annunciator makes you think when you start out that your ABS isn't known to be working until after the self-test is done.

2. By flashing this annunciator at start-up, it tests that the annunciator is working. If you don't see it flash, then there is a good chance that the bulb is blown. Would you rather find out now that the annunciator is INOP or when you go to make a panic stop at 60 MPH on a wet road and find out that your ABS was broken, but you didn't know that since the bulb that tells you it is broken was itself broken.

Using the failure annunciators at startup is a very smart design feature. Anyone who calls it moronic is well ... you finish the sentence ...

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Re: Stupid blinking Brake Failure light and NYS Inspection?

By the way guys, i did do a search for NYS inspection, and could not find anything relating to the brake lights. (as that was the question....)

Please excuse the spelling errors, typing on an iPad, with the wonderful autocomplete causes odd words sometimes..
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I donno, maybe its your avitar. you just look like a mad man.

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Re: Stupid blinking Brake Failure light and NYS Inspection?

I hold an inspection license, just tell the tech how the system works and that will be the end of it.

As far as the warning light, I don't know why they do it that way.
They could have followed the auto industry, system runs self test including wheel sensor test and would turn the light on if it didn't pass. When the key is turned on it cycles the warning lights so the operation of the light could be checked at that time.
The warning light could fail after the test and there would be no indication of an actual failure, so that reason doesn't wash.

I thinks it's safe to say either way they operate the warning system you're still moving before you're sure the tests passed. No sense in arguing why they do what they do it's just the way it is and you can't change that.
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Are we all ready to join hands and sing "Kumbaya" now...?
Hell No. Newbee's should tread lightly. Oh, and did someone make up a new word "
annunciator ". Can you use it in a sentence? The annunciator said RTFM.

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And just so you know.. There is no such thing as no brakes.. No power brakes maybe.. NO ABS maybe but never, NEVER, No brakes...

You'll be able to stop just fine...

And you'll be able to educate the knucklehead at the state inspection station by rolling the bike about ten feet...You'll also hear the "chirp, chirp" as the ABS pump self tests..
The reason for the roll out is to test the wheel sensors...

Remember, Stupid is as stupid does....

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WELL....I just replaced the bad brake modulator on my 04. Let me just say....when the "old, bad one" was not working I had NO brakes.....none, zero.....no residual....at least thats the way it seemed to me. So I will politely disagree with you on this one....

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Re: Stupid blinking Brake Failure light and NYS Inspection?

You 04 if I am correct has the same servo brake system as my 03 CLC..

"Power" brakes.. Real ones.. Like a 68 Buick Electra 225....

And yes, If the system goes bad, You still have residual braking.. I would have to agree compared to the power system you have to actually squeeze the lever and press the pedal to get it to stop.. But there are brakes there...

I pull my CLC out of the shop without the engine running.. Down the hill we go and I stop every time. So, Yes, The brakes still work.. Kind of like shutting your car off while going down the road.. You can still steer and brake.. But it takes a lot more effort..

As far as the OP and inspection goes.. The bike is working properly.. Any inspector who would fail the bike is only showing his own stupidity...I'm fairly sure that a simple explanation of how the brake system works, Now that you understand a little more about it, Will suffice...

Good Luck.. Maybe video the inspection...

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I'm a pretty big/strong guy and squeezed and stomped pretty hard on the brakes....no stopping.....at least nothing that I could feel. I had to downshift and do the "Fred Flinstone stop". Maybe we just have different perceptions of "residual braking and stopping".

A "non-issue" now after $2000 for a new modulator (20% discount) and a few pints of fluid.

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BMW is not the only motorcycle to flash the ABS light until the bike has rolled a few feet. My Goldwing and a friend's Harley do the same.

I like my K75RT's ABS1 in that if the ABS should fail, the brakes don't lose any braking power.

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Thank you guys. That was all I was asking. Did any NY riders have problems getting NYS inspections from non-bmw dealers.

I was just trying to avoid headaches. Didn't mean to start a flame war, and certainly not with the senior members of the forum.

Thank you to the guys that were polite enough to actually answer my question, and not just flame me for part of the message.

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Paul, you have a way with words; thanks for not calling my mother a whore... Hope your inspection goes okay.

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I have had my 99LT inspected at different places for years and have never been asked about the lights. If so, I would just explain that it is a self test. In NY, they only turn on the bike to test the lights (headlight, brake and turn). That's why they only charge you $6,

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You start, and I'll catch ya on the second round. That was pretty good Howard!

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You start, and I'll catch ya on the second round. That was pretty good Howard!
I just like to see everybody get along. We're all here for the same reasons...

OK, gang, in the key of "g", here we go ...


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Re: Stupid blinking Brake Failure light and NYS Inspection?

To the OP, as a NYS resident, I often get the question asked during an inspection, and I explain it as normal and why. Nobody has failed it as a result and I've been to 3 different places here in upstate ny. If someone fails it, i'd complain, ask for a refund, and find another inspection station.

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Yes.
They are not going to fail a bike for operating as it was supposed to operate.
However, I do believe the OP was unaware that is the way the bike is supposed to behave. As he then mentioned repairs, or who might repair.
No one, whereas it ain't broke.
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Is that really you in that Avatar? If it is I'd get some glasses.

Also calm down a bit.

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